11854an answer to PMCV
- Jan 24, 2006>>>>>
That is all fine and dandy, but I think you underestimate the people
here. It is relatively easy to think you can judge one's
intellectual ability via extended conversation (first impressions
can be false even there), but anyone who thinks they can tell the
spiritual abilities based on contrast to those intellectual persuits
demonstrates some misconceptions (both spiritual and intellectual).
It is an ESSENTIAL concept of Gnostic thought, that the spiritual
experience and the philosophical comprehension are enmeshed, if
taken rightly they are mixed into one... they are the rightful
bridegroom and bride. Which ever starting point you come from, one
is not a "Gnostic" until they have both. That much you sem to agree
with, but the valuation jump you then make is unwarented. The
spiritual experience of the Bride, Sophia, is a fallen lie without
her bridegroom. And the waiting bridegroom, Logos, is lonely and
hollow without his love.
What I mean is, you may be able to start from either of two
points... experience or intellect.... but Gnosis is, by definition,
a conjunction of both of these.
Don't be so sure you know the background of any author here, even if
on the surface we may deal a bit more with the historical. I will
await the challenge to see if you know mine.
>>>>>>William James found difficulties in placing the right framework in his conclusive study, seeing the realities he was facing and standing between the two mainstreams, empirical individuals (based on confessions) and religious phylosophers (liberal thinkers or scriptualists). Individual experience is very personal so that no languange can serve as a complete instrument to communicate this kind of experience.The will to achieve spiritual enlightenment--thus, the pointed goal of gnosis--can be started either from the excercise of intellect or through "true" faith. The end-result is one, true comprehesion or divine union or whatever you name it.The Gosples of Gnostics teach us not underestimate anyone, but our own ego. Predicate of the true gnosis cannot be achieved through defending egotism. Intellectualism also constitutes the stumbling block to gnosis. Intellectualism perhaps is very important, but in its early stages; later on it must be left behind. But it will be usefull again when we try to explain what we were going through.
My warmest regardsAbdul Wahab
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