- Nov 8, 2005Here's something I worte to another group:

I thought Kaplan used past and future for Kether and Malkuth.....its

been a while...

but um there are 7 directions...... forward backward..left right up

down and within.....

7 days. of creation...7 stages of alchemy (visita interiora terrae

rectificando invenies occultum lapidem)..7 spheres before the

supernal triangle....etc.....

Now kaplan also discusses Oroboros..does he not....

the end is the beginning is the end.....

he states 2 polar opposites...lets say kether and malkuth.....lets

call them past(kether) future(malkuth).....now if these were 2

imaginary points...polar opposites..that stretch out for infinity in

opposite dirtections...kaplan states they reach a point of

infinity...and eventually come back upon them selves...and meet..

(this is modern maths.....pardon my ignorance I'm just saying what

kaplan said).....thus the end is the beginning is the end......Indeed

some forms of kabbalah teach that kether is closer to malkuth than it

is to chockmah.......

this fits in nicely with many ideas such a hindu and buddhist thought

that states the end is indeed the beginning.....we can also see this

in western esoteric thought....the divine trinity of creation

destruction and redemtion.....which is the same as the Rosicrucian

trinity of

"Ex Deo nascimur.

In Jesu Morimur

Per Spiritum Sanctum reviviscimus."

We are born in God...we die in Christ and are reborn in the Holy

SPirit.......

so creation destruction redemption is again much like the kabbalist

(and many others) idea of a return to a better state.....the end is

the beginning is the end....

this also fits in with 1 modern alternative to the standard big bang

idea that states such as I have said

above....creation....destruction...creation...an endless cycle....

No one had raised this point...so I thought I would....

--Ben

Well....here are some thoughts....

Many people like to see the tree as Linear.....as you say from A to T

or O to Z or whatever.....I think this is wrong....

Clearly if we look at Phi or the image of Oroboros we see that things

are not linear...indeed one modern magician/kabbalist states time is

a spiral and this explains why "distant past" is closer to the

present than the future.....and thus this is why it is "easy" to

contact the distant past in meditation/magic etc (sadly you really

need to see the diagram to conceive of this

fully...probably).....many kabbalaists also assert that the tree is

not linear....

How does this relate to kabbalah?.....well the tree can be seen in

many ways....the standard linear model familiar to us......the

Lurianic "modern" tree and the "hermetic tree" are but one way to

picture the tree....as you probably know.....I even have a diagram of

the tree as a 5 pointed star at home.....but anyway...in Judaic

kabbalah the tree has been shown as 1 big circle with concentric

circles within it......so we have one big circle with lesser circles

within it.....

Now on another post someone mentioned the fractal nature of the

tree......so the tree is not 2d.....frankly is a sphere 2

dimensional? no...the plan is 2d(due to the limitation of the printed

page)....but in reality the tree is not flat.....so what if we

picture the tree as one sphere......one coherant sphere ....then like

a fractal within the sphere we have the standard lurianic or hermetic

trees......much like a fractal...zooming in for greater detail...and

then of course each of the 10 within the original 1 can be zoomed in

upon.....

Now what does this have to do with the beginning is the end is the

beginning? Well a sphere and a circle have no end........and no

beginning...they just are.....much like the earth is not

flat.......its a sphere...if it had an end we'd fall off (forgetting

gravity etc for a second)........

Now in Christian Kabbalah at least (I know this isnt valid for all

forms) the tree is seen as an imperfect tree

(the kircher tree... http://www.digital-

brilliance.com/kab/kircher.gif the blanced pre fall tree is the Gra

tree http://www.tarot.org.il/Images/GRA_ToL.png )

the tree after the falll.....originally malkuth was where daath was

(ending our YHVH quaterinty of kether chockmah and binah...flame oil

lamp...illumined)thus the "great work" is to make malkuth go back to

where it originally was.....daath....

but essentially thats what I meant by creation destruction

redemption.....

eden...(creation) perfect state.........the fall (where we are

now..some would argue we are still falling)....redemptiona climg back

out of the fall back to eden.......thus the end is the beginning is

the end...

from womb to tomb to womb....

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