11062re: "accepting one's lot"
- Jun 1, 2005--- In email@example.com, "gich morgan" <gich2@b...> wrote:
>Let me stop you for a moment right there, Gich. Suppose we accept
> For me, this sort of discussion comes down to whether you consider
> that there is (literally) a god, or gods, that are responsible for
> the creation of the universe, the Earth and mankind. Suppose we
> accept the hypothesis as I think the ancient gnostics did. It then
> seems to me logical to consider that the gods must have some
> purpose, some reason for the creation, some PLAN;
that what you're suggesting is in line with what the Gnostics
posited. Can you tell us where they outline this grand
strategy . . . the divine PLAN behind creation? Seems to me it is
generally described in terms of "error." What do you make of that?
> . . . otherwise, why bother; what's the point?Exactly. Is that too scary to consider?
> Fundamental to gnosticism is the possibility of immortality viaBesides questioning "the gods," Gich, perhaps you should question
> gnosis but why didn't the gods create us immortal in the first
your premise that "immortality" is a fundamental goal of Gnosticism.
> Why bother with the rigmarole of life on Earth? It again seems toIt may very well seem that way to you, Gich, but the Gnostics
> me that life on Earth is part of the PLAN; there is a
> reason for it; it has a purpose;
described it quite differently from what you propose.
> . . . it must be some sort of preparation for what follows.What exactly is it that follows? [If it's gonna sound like the fuzzy
promises of a tent revival, I'd rather not hear about it.]
> . . . It seems to me that the idea of "a god entity meting outIt seems to me that such an understanding would follow from looking
> Gnosis on a merit basis" [although this isn't the form of words I
> would use] is a valid concept in gnosticism and follows logically
> from the foregoing.
at Gnostic concepts from a mainstream perspective. There is a very
good reason that we repeatedly caution against this here.
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