Re: [globalvillages] May I use the Global Villages server?
- I am most saddened.
My main page is there!On 11 July 2010 11:44, <ms@...> wrote:
Hi Franz, Ralf and all,
I'm shutting down the Minciu Sodas server at the end of this month. I
can't afford the monthly payments (about $55 per month). My own needs are
much more modest now. Mostly I want a wiki where I can work on my own
I will archive and upload a copy of my server's content (ms.lt,
worknets.org, myfoodstory.info and other sites) to http://www.archive.org
where people can access it. At some point, I also plan to make an archive
of our letters, wiki pages, chat, etc. as a reference of our past
Franz and Ralf, may I move my domains to your Global Villages server?
Would you provide free hosting for them?
One thought is for me to keep using the Worknets wiki. I'm not really
interested in that, but perhaps its simplest.
Another thought is to make a read-only version of the Worknets and other
ProWikis on my server. That should be rather simple for me to set up. Or
I could output HTML hyperlinked pages with the wiki's content. Then I
could start a new wiki for my own personal projects. I don't intend to
use ProWiki, but rather an open source wiki with an active developer
community. I could do that at a virtual server. That might cost about $5
to $15 a month.
Franz, Ralf, what is possible? And what do you think would make sense?
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- Hi Andrius, all,
As you know the last months were shattering our online plans with the
double changes of NING going commercial and Andrius retreating from being
active online community builder for the time being
This has forced me to think about a new strategy for globalvillages. Two
of our most active venues are concerned: the NING social network with
meanwhile 130 members and this mailinglist with 311 members. But maybe
this is a necessary crisis.
I feel I am crossing my limits doing a one-man show as a networker and
convener creating a wholly isolated world. I began to think about a more
effective ecology of online tools. It was pretty helpful having the visit
of networkers like Les Squires (transitionus) and Mathew Slater
(communityforge) last weekend here in Vienna. We spent a lot of time
together, also with Helmut Leitner and Ralf Schlatterbeck and some others,
in the aftermath of a really great workshop on Pattern Languages and
Christopher Alexander in Hotel Karolinenhof. Then I had to digest.
Here is the results so far - cornerstones for a new online strategy. I
discussed it with Ralf and also give some answers to your questions.
1. Instead of supposing a homogenous group already we will stretch over
several venues to engage peoiple where they are: facebook, linkedIn,
transitionUs, WiserEarth and others. All of these systems can host
discussion fora and all of these online venues have a different taste, a
Les Squires gave me the idea that a group, like a person, could have a
resume. I liked that idea and immediately created one for Global Villages
Network (see below as Annex to this mail). The resume is the central glue
between locations - it is prominent and featured in each location and
might get updated easily.
So we can discuss
* professional and business issues on LinkedIn
* transitional issues on transitionUs
* wholistic and networking issues on Wiser Earth
** http://www.wiserearth.org/group/globalvillages (a fantastic tool to
* daily gossip on facebook etc.
* political issues on P2P Foundation
and so on.
We will work with Skype groups and many other things if needed.
The idea is to hand over the groups to people active and proficient on
those networks instead of trying to make them relocate to us.
We experimented with NINGS new archiving tool which works really well
(based on Adobe Air) - but we are not sure yet if we want it. Maybe we
will seek to have the interested members of the NING community (and also
of this list) take active care of Globalvillages groups wherever they feel
most comfortable and at home.
2. We will not haste building our server, but definitely primarily seek to
establish our wikis as THE repository for more permanent content. Dorfwiki
and GlobalVillages.info in Worknets as well as Globalvillages.at. They
will all have certain protocols.
3. The accumulated streams from various corners might end up in a central
engine that passively starts with following streams and one day might end
up as a fully - fledged edited online magazine and/or social network. At
the time being, globalvillages.org - the future place of this network - is
simply a link page.
as is globalvillages.tv .
4. We might start to act as conveners of a "council of networkers" to
optimize the flow between the conveners of likeminded empowering
communities . We most likely will set up a public Skype chat for this and
record and protocol it. we want to get in touch with people like Chris
Watkins from Appropedia and many others and see how we can cross connect
all these venues meaningfully.
Andrius, you inspired me very much to think of online venues as an
ecology. I am sad that we could not do and plan this transition together.
But very much is bthe results of our yearly time together. Also I see that
videobridgebuilders was by far overstretching and we will re-integrate it
somehow into globalvillages as you suggested.
Please make it clear what you expect from us hosting domains. Does it mean
there is one informing page per domain before people get redirected to
archive.org? I suppose you will keep paying for these domains.
We will avoid as much as possible hosting anything which is not actively
We agreed that we will transfer globalvillages.info so it will be paid by
erde.lt has been disconnected. anything else open?
It would be most likely easier to host the whole worknets wiki than
extracting the globalvillages pages. The problems is that you made
modifications to the Prowiki code and that we are not sure what they are.
Did you write a documentation? Do we have to run two versions of Prowiki
on one server?
I would like to change the AutoLinkStrategies on Globalvillages.info so
that worknets toplevel pages are not automatically linked. Maybe you want
to support us with making those adjustments and give us ideas for the
central stream page. Maybe you want to use worknets as a minimum outlet
for your work. Maybe others feel comfortable to create their own worknets
there. we will see.
all the best
RESUME of the GLOBAL VILLAGES NETWORK
* Global Villages Network was founded by a considerable number of visitors
at the 3rd international Global Village symposium in 1997 in Viennas city
hall. In its founding declararation it says: "...we have to use our local
resources more wisely and that we can increasingly do so with the access
to global knowledge, the sharing of experiences, the division of mental
labour and the local connectedness that new information technologies make
possible. The discovery of the full potential of this combination between
local resources and global knowledge is the purpose of the GLOBAL VILLAGE
* The network lay dormant for some years and was recently revitalised (and
slightly renamed) by its founder Franz Nahrada considering the necessity
to speed up and focus research for a widely acceptable alternative to
still mushrooming hyperurbanisation and rural depletion. The main tool to
gather the critical mass of 500 globalvillagers will be the social
* The Vision of Global Villages is to create an Earth that has enough
place for all of us - by eliminating geographical disadvantages in access
to education. knowledge and culture and by fostering the potential of all
regions of this planet to host a meaningful symbiosis between man and
* We dream of a planet full of cultured landscape and full of lean and
green settlements connected by a global nerve system and distributed brain
of communication lines enabling us to do 80% of what we do locally, yet
constantly see to the other side of the world and learn from each other.
* We dream of an Open Source world, where knowledge is a common property
of mankind whereas there is lots of opportunities for everyone to choose
the lifestyle and the company they prefer. Villages are the optimum form
of human development, they allow people to unfold physical communities
around shared values.
* Global Villages Network seeks to establish a network of experts big
enough to carry out research on all aspects of village development and
still small enough to maintain friendly and meaningful relations between
members. We want to test and experiment, implement and improve and we seek
global cooperation with businesses, governments, international
organisations and the civil society.
* Besides that research we want to build and consolidate a network of
strongholds and hubs around the globe where Global Villages principles are
becoming tangible realities. Not each village might want to be a Global
Village: but its good to have one nearby.
* Establish communities of practise and research groups
* Establish a stable ecosystem of partners (like for example the Clear
* Working out criteria and principles for Global Villages
* Starting Global Village Groups in locations around the world