[Girl Genius] Re: Webcomics and $$$
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Santiago <santiago@m...> wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2005, at 12:58 PM, Dava wrote:think
>I believe that there is a substantial difference in the market for
> most Marvel lines and for works like Girl Genius. In general, I
> that Girl Genius appeals less to young males and more to olderand
> individuals with a greater proportion of women. I would also argue
> that these two groups may show marked differences in comic-buying
> retaining behaviors.Eh, most of our Girl Genius customers are male. Phil's women are...
jiggly. LOL! As for comic retention, it is my experience that most
people who read comics, male or female, tend to be pack rats and
almost revel in their clutter.
I'll resist the urge to post pictures of my computer room to
illustrate that point. ;)
> > I also know that in our shop, we sell tons more comics thantrades,
> > simply because college kids don't have a lot of money to spend.This
> > is across the board--DC, Marvel, or independant. For instance, wecopies
> > order about 60 copies of Ultimate Spider-Man, but only about 3
> > of the trade paperback. We're lucky to sell 2 of those copies.and
>I think your average issue of Ultimate Spider-Man is much more of a
> disposable product than smaller-press products like Girl Genius,
> has likely a very different individual-issue-to-trade-paperbacksales
> ratio.I just chose Ultimate Spider-Man for simplicity. I could just as
easily have said we have to order new copies of Johnny the Homicidal
Maniac every 3 or 4 weeks, but only sell the trade paperback once or
twice a year.
If you want to go by sales ratios, Girl Genius fares much better than
Ultimate Spider-Man. Spidey sells 2 trades vs. 60 issues, while GG
sells 2 trades vs. 10 issues. College kids just don't save up money
for trade paperbacks. They ration it out on single issues.
> Just because you're not selling somethingOf course not. I can only tell you what the situation is in a very
> doesn't mean it isn't being sold.
large chunk of Texas. We have the biggest shop in our area, and we
own one of the largest shops in Austin. I think we keep our fingers
on the market's pulse a lot better than Amazon.
- Hi Dava,
I think this will work.
My work, a county school system, loves the trade paperbacks. Very few
of the librarians buy the individual issues.
I own all of _GrimJack_ in monthly issues. I am also a student (I will
finish my BS one day...). I cannot afford the _GrimJack_ trade
paperbacks. I want them, but I already own all but 7 pages.
I buy one copy of GG, my wife buys one copy of GG, the FLCS buys less
than ten, all by fan requests. Our family buys one GG soft cover trade
Also Ultimate Spider-Man comes out once per month, GG comes out less
The thing I will miss most is buying a third copy of the quarterly to
cut up for really cool art pages.
Things I will *not* miss is leaving work early to get our copies so I
can find out what the *heck* this group is talking about. Don't even
get me started on the UPS/ rock slide issue.
--- In email@example.com, "Dava" <dizzydava@a...> wrote:
> For instance, we
> order about 60 copies of Ultimate Spider-Man, but only about 3 copies
> of the trade paperback. We're lucky to sell 2 of those copies. The
> industry still relies on single issues, at this point.
- I will miss the tchotchkes and filler in the comics; but if the
Foglios feel inspired to do them, I suppose they can add links to
girlgeniusonline when it happens.
But I cannot complain of a decision which will give them an incentive
to actually do three pages a week.
Some people can. But we are definitely - even if the Foglios were to
change their minds completely - not going to see issue #14 this
month. Let us hold off this discussion until May 1 or so, by which
time we can see how the on-line system actually works.
(and we may still be able to persuade the Foglios, eventually, to
issue the web-strips as comics as well as graphic novels; since the
art will already exist.)
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Elizabeth McCoy <arcangel@i...>
> At 1:15 PM -0600 3/31/05, Pete Hartman wrote:ways.
> >[...] it sounds to
> >me like Studio Foglio has decided that the NET is insufficient to
> >justify the magnitude of the headaches and complications.
> And/or that Kaja's time could be more productively spent in other
> I.e., she could be "paid" X+n instead of just X, in terms of moneystores,
> being brought in for time spent.
> >Personally, I will miss the "comic book" versions. I liked them a
> >lot, and in a perfect world, I'd like to see them continue.
> Yah. Half a comic is a great amount to read for a bedtime story. O:>
> It is, indeed, sad that they're going to have to leave the comics
> Clearly, they're not in as dire straits as I. O:> Still, I can seehow
> the decisions get made.board.")
> --Beth, arcangel@i... / archangel@s... In Nomine Line Editor
> ("We put the fun in funatic!" *pause* "Right, back to the spelling
- Sorry to bug you at home, this is the Captain Britain trade I was
talking about. Came out in 2002, supposedly out of print but I could
swear they're going to redo it. Alan Moore & Alan Davis.
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- LOL! Daniel, this is what you get for reading the forum via email. ;)
--- In email@example.com, Daniel <drake01@h...> wrote:
> Sorry to bug you at home, this is the Captain Britain trade I was
> talking about. Came out in 2002, supposedly out of print but I could
> swear they're going to redo it. Alan Moore & Alan Davis.
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