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  • Dirk Knück
    Apr 18 8:31 PM
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      Hello Jan !
      It is not that easy to trace your family with so less information (sorry for my poor english).
      First you have to know, that the first mistakes happens by reading the old papers. The letters are not clear, and they used a different way to write (called Kurant or suetterlin).

      You stated, that you have learned the names of two cities - but Rheinpfalz is not a city, it is a political region like a state in the US.
      The city Dirnstein - I haven^t found here - but there is a city called Dirmstein. This city is located in the mentioned area - and if you search the familysearch-database you can find the name KECK very often. But familysearch only have few entries for that city. At the state archive Speyer you will have the chance to get more information, because the church-books are there beginning in the year 1652.
      If you are searching the familysearch-database, you need a lot of phantasy - means : try different spellings of a name. As I wrote above, the old letters are difficult to read, and by transcribing thousands of names, mistakes are made very often. I searched 30 diferent spellings, and found entries for my family. By reading the original documents, I found that they made mistakes while transcribing.

      Spelling of family-names chenged during the time. In the early times the only records where made by the pastors, and in fact, the most people werent able to read. So the spelling wasn`t important. The next thing happend was, after arriving in the US, some names have been written "like they were pronounced".

      Greetings

      Dirk

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: JanKPlum@...
      To: germanroots@yahoogroups.com
      Date: 19.04.2010 04:22:47
      Subject: Re: AW: [germanroots] Heisser


      > That is the information that has been passed down as the place in Germany  
      > where my ancestor that migrated to the United States came from.  I am  
      > trying to verify information and learn more.  I appreciate any help you can  
      > give.    I have also learned two additional city names of  Rheinpfalz and
      > Dirnstein.  The name was Abraham Heisser.  His father  was Johann Jakob Hausser.  
      > Thank you.  Jan Plummer
      >
      >
      > In a message dated 4/18/2010 1:09:16 P.M. US Eastern Standard Time,  
      > hesborn2000@... writes:
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > guter Tipp
      >
      > --- Dirk Knück schrieb am So,  
      > 18.4.2010:
      >
      > Von: Dirk Knück
      > Betreff: Re: AW:  [germanroots] Heisser
      > An: _germanroots@germanroots@ger_ (mailto:germanroots@yahoogroups.com)
      > Datum:  Sonntag, 18. April, 2010 00:13 Uhr
      >
      >
      >
      > Hallo Reiner  !
      >
      > Nach den Napoleonischen Kriegen ging ein Teil der Pfalz an Bayern.  Dieser
      > TEil wurde Rheinkreis genannt.
      > Am ehesten würde, meines Erachtens  der Ort Birmstein passen.
      >
      > Gruss
      >
      > Dirk
      >
      > ----- Original  Message -----
      > From: hesborn2000@ yahoo.de
      > To: germanroots@ yahoogroups.  com
      > Date: 17.04.2010 22:33:09
      > Subject: AW: [germanroots]  Heisser
      >
      > > Hallo Jan Plummer,
      > >  
      > > i am a German,  living in Germany. What is  "Reihnkreis Beiern
      > Conton,Germany"
      > >  
      > >  
      > > Greatings
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      > >  Reiner
      > >  
      > > --- JanKPlum@aol. com schrieb am Sa,  17.4.2010:
      > >
      > >
      > > Von: JanKPlum@aol. com
      > > Betreff:  [germanroots] Heisser
      > > An: german-genealogy- l-request@ rootsweb. com,  german-heraldry-
      > l-request@ rootsweb. com, german-history- d-request@  rootsweb. com,
      > german-medieval- d-request@ rootsweb. com, german-nobility-  l-request@ rootsweb. com,
      > germangenealogystar there-subscribe@ yahoogroups.  com, germangenealogystar
      > there@yahoogroup s.com, germanroots@ yahoogroups.  com, germans-il-in-
      > l-request@ rootsweb. com, germany-passenger-  lists-l-request@ rootsweb. com
      > > Datum: Samstag, 17. April, 2010 04:04  Uhr
      > >
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      > >  
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      > >
      > >
      > > I am  trying to find more information on my ancestors in Gernamy. I know
      > >  that my great great grandfather was Abraham Heisser. I migrated to the  
      > > United States in April, 1840. He was born in Reihnkreis Beiern  
      > Conton,Germany
      > > on October 5, 1810. He died October 6, 1881. He  married Helena Mader,
      > > April 15, 1815 in the same place. His Father  Johann Jacob Hausser
      > (notice the
      > > change in spelling) born in  Dirnstein, Germany, March 26, 1776. He
      > > married Maria Magdalena Keck  February 7, 1802. She was born August 12,
      > 1784.
      > > in the same  place.
      > > Johann's parents were Rudolf Heusser (unsure if that spelling  is e or
      > > should be a), born in Dirnstein, Germany and Katharina  Franziska
      > Walther, born
      > > in same place
      > > Maria's parents were  Thomas Keck, born 1746 Dirnstein , Germany and
      > > Katharina  Sauer
      > > Helena's parents were Nickolaus Keck born April 11, 1778 and  Michelina
      > > Margarethe Nossel born September 25, 1778 It looks like  Nikolaus's
      > parents and
      > > Maria's parents were the same which would make  my great great
      > grandparents
      > > first cousins.
      > > Michelina's  parents were Kasper Nossel, born 1745 and Maris Margarethe
      > >  BackmannThey were all born in Dirnstein.
      > > I would like to know anything  about them I could like occupations,
      > church
      > > affiliation, military  involvement, and any information available on the
      > > process and  decision to migrate to the United States. I would also like
      > to
      > > verify  the geneology information as some of the same first and middle
      > names
      > >  are showing up for different people.
      > >
      > > Thank you so  much,
      > > Jan Plummer
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