Re: [gensoft] new member self-intro --> tools and philosophy, genealogy, community history etc.
- Kerry:Thanks for your thoughtful reply on this thread:On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Kerry Raymond wrote:
Yep, as we used to say in the heyday of the valley: Every tekkie has a scheme for getting rich that won't work.I'll settle for finding --or developing-- some efficient data entry/transfer techniques for myself. And finding some folks who have experience doing roughly the same kind of projects from whom I can learn.And: I'll still dream of getting some actual help from my co-descendants.Thanks,Henry
- On 9 Oct 2012 at 6:57, Kerry Raymond wrote:
> Also shared genealogies don't seem to work very well in practice. There areMy experience certainly fits in with that.
> three versions of anything, yours, mine and the "truth" (which we can never
> really know). Just because Betty believes that the father of an illegitimate
> child "must have been SoAndSo" doesn't mean another relative believes it. We
> can all look at the same evidence and draw different conclusions and a
> genealogical database is just that, a set of conclusions, not a body of
Four years ago I started a family Wiki for sharing family stories, but
practically no one has contributed to it. Lots of people visit it, and read
what I have written, and probably nick some of the information for their own
family trees, but it's all take and no give, so I hardly ever update it now.
> A lot of people in the genealogy space have been a bit burned bySome of them have been remarkably successful, though, most notably FreeBMD,
> crowd-sourced projects. Many get started with grand ambitions and solicit
> contributions, but the project falters and the contributions are never made
> available/integrated (or whatever) as promised, or the site exists for a while
> and then disappears. The return-on-investment for contributors in many such
> projects is often low to non-existent and certainly I am now much less likely
> to contribute to a project unless I can see the clear path to a long-lived
> site/resource. What commitment will you be able to give to contributors as to
> the longevity of the site/resource created?
which is a very useful resource, as are the spinoffs, FreeREG and FreeCEN,
though to a lesser extent.
- In ten+ years of tracing a couple of family lines, the most success I've had in getting other people to contribute to a family tree is with a printed multi-generation chart with pictures - posted on a wall at the site where the yearly reunion is held. Those who don't find family member pictures on the chart almost always contribute at least pictures - and while you have their attention you can ask for other info.
This can lead to big charts - one year I had access to a roll-fed plotter and the chart was 3 feet high and 20+ feet long but almost everyone wanted to themselves and their immediate family. There were even a few who looked at multiple generations.
I've had almost zero success with anything promised for 'later' - maybe 1 person in 100 actually follows through.
- A lot of people do that and have lots of pens or pencils hanging around so
the blanks can be filled for dates and children.
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In ten+ years of tracing a couple of family lines, the most success I've had
in getting other people to contribute to a family tree is with a printed
multi-generation chart with pictures - posted on a wall at the site where
the yearly reunion is held. Those who don't find family member pictures on
the chart almost always contribute at least pictures - and while you have
their attention you can ask for other info.
This can lead to big charts - one year I had access to a roll-fed plotter
and the chart was 3 feet high and 20+ feet long but almost everyone wanted
to themselves and their immediate family. There were even a few who looked
at multiple generations.
I've had almost zero success with anything promised for 'later' - maybe 1
person in 100 actually follows through.