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  • LdMel1@aol.com
    Since some of the Certificates ask mother s maiden name ? I assume that is what is suppose to be on it.? Just a thought. Have a blessed day Linda ... From:
    Message 1 of 6 , Jul 7, 2008
      Since some of the Certificates ask "mother's maiden name"? I assume that is what is suppose to be on it.? Just a thought.


      Have a blessed day
      Linda


      -----Original Message-----
      From: dmbohall29@...
      To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:43 am
      Subject: Re: [genpcncfir] Mary Ann Hart






      I am finding that a lot of the death certificate gives the mother's maiden
      name instead of their married name.

      Doris Bohall

      In a message dated 7/7/2008 10:35:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
      paulabaker69@... writes:

      > I do find a Mary Ann Hart with Alex Hart in Greene County. However, I'm
      > wondering why one of her children's death certificate reads Mary Ann Baker
      > instead of Hart. Very odd.
      > Paula Baker
      > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South Carolina,
      > and Louisiana and
      > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
      >
      > "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links in a
      > chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went
      > before us and showed us the way."
      >
      > Thomas Mann
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----
      > From: Paula Baker <paulabaker69@...>
      > To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 9:27:56 AM
      > Subject: [genpcncfir] Death Certificate
      >
      > I think I found the death certificate and it lists Marry A. Hart's father as
      > Alex Baker and her mother as a Frizelle. But for some of the children's
      > death certificates, it lists Mary Ann Baker as the mother. I wonder if Alex
      > Hart was a guardian. The Mary Ann Baker I'm looking for--her parents died when
      > she was very young and the Hobbs and Baker grandparents raised her. We had
      > always thought that she died young. James Baker and Mary Ann Baker's
      > stepgrandmother Harriett Priscillan Darden Moye Baker died about 1872. I wonder if
      > she went to live with Alex Hart then. I'll do some more checking.
      > Paula Baker
      > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South Carolina,
      > and Louisiana and
      > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
      >
      >

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    • Paula Baker
      What is confusing me is that on HER death certificate, her name is listed by her son Willie Hart as Mary Ann Baker.  On her children s certificates, she is
      Message 2 of 6 , Jul 7, 2008
        What is confusing me is that on HER death certificate, her name is listed by her son Willie Hart as Mary Ann Baker.  On her children's certificates, she is  listed  Mary Ann Hart.  She is a bit young to be MY Mary Ann Baker, so....she may not be.
         Paula Baker
        Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South Carolina, and Louisiana and
        Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina


        "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way."


        Thomas Mann



        ----- Original Message ----
        From: "LdMel1@..." <LdMel1@...>
        To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 11:03:46 AM
        Subject: Re: [genpcncfir] Mary Ann Hart


        Since some of the Certificates ask "mother's maiden name"? I assume that is what is suppose to be on it.? Just a thought.

        Have a blessed day
        Linda

        -----Original Message-----
        From: dmbohall29@aol. com
        To: genpcncfir@yahoogro ups.com
        Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:43 am
        Subject: Re: [genpcncfir] Mary Ann Hart

        I am finding that a lot of the death certificate gives the mother's maiden
        name instead of their married name.

        Doris Bohall

        In a message dated 7/7/2008 10:35:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
        paulabaker69@ yahoo.com writes:

        > I do find a Mary Ann Hart with Alex Hart in Greene County. However, I'm
        > wondering why one of her children's death certificate reads Mary Ann Baker
        > instead of Hart. Very odd.
        > Paula Baker
        > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South Carolina,
        > and Louisiana and
        > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
        >
        > "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links in a
        > chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went
        > before us and showed us the way."
        >
        > Thomas Mann
        >
        > ----- Original Message ----
        > From: Paula Baker <paulabaker69@ yahoo.com>
        > To: genpcncfir@yahoogro ups.com
        > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 9:27:56 AM
        > Subject: [genpcncfir] Death Certificate
        >
        > I think I found the death certificate and it lists Marry A. Hart's father as
        > Alex Baker and her mother as a Frizelle. But for some of the children's
        > death certificates, it lists Mary Ann Baker as the mother. I wonder if Alex
        > Hart was a guardian. The Mary Ann Baker I'm looking for--her parents died when
        > she was very young and the Hobbs and Baker grandparents raised her. We had
        > always thought that she died young. James Baker and Mary Ann Baker's
        > stepgrandmother Harriett Priscillan Darden Moye Baker died about 1872. I wonder if
        > she went to live with Alex Hart then. I'll do some more checking.
        > Paula Baker
        > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South Carolina,
        > and Louisiana and
        > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
        >
        >

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      • Trish Worthington Cobb
        Paula, I have the following as Mary Ann Hart s parents Alexander Caleb Hart, Rev. b. 1 Mar 1836 d. 30 Jan 1903, “age 67 years and 11 mos.” • Age 14 in
        Message 3 of 6 , Jul 7, 2008
          Paula,

          I have the following as Mary Ann Hart's parents


          Alexander Caleb Hart, Rev.
          b. 1 Mar 1836
          d. 30 Jan 1903, �age 67 years and 11 mos.�
          � Age 14 in 1850 Census, Greene County, N.C.; in mother�s home.

          � #47. A. C. Hart Record (1836-1931)
          "Dobbs County Bible Records, Vol. IV,� by Bill Murphy
          (A copy can be found at Heritage Place, Lenoir Community College,
          Kinston, NC.)
          �Alexander Caleb was the son of Jesse Hart and Mary Spivey who lived
          near Maury in Greene County. His wife was Lusetta Frizzle. A. C.
          Hart was a Free Will Baptist minister, but in the late 1880�s (he)
          joined the Disciples of Christ. This record is in the possessiion of
          Frances Hart Kight.�

          � #48. Hart Record (1858-1892)
          "Dobbs County Bible Records, Vol. IV,� by Bill Murphy
          (A copy can be found at Heritage Place, Lenoir Community College,
          Kinston, NC.)
          �This record appears to be a partial listing of the children of
          Alexander C. Hart and Lusetta Frizzle. It is currently owned by
          Frances Hart Knight.�



          Frances Lucetta Frizzle
          b. 15 Nov 1838
          d. 9 Sep 1912, �age 74 years 9 months & 8 days�
          � Lucetta Frizzle was age 12 in the 1850 Census of Greene County, NC,
          listed in her father�s home

          * The A.C. Harte Bible Record has two entries for Lucetta Hart�s birth
          and death:
          �Lusetta F. Hart his wife was borned Nov. 15. 18.0.38 died Sept. 9th
          19.0.12. age 74 years 9 months & 8 days�
          �Frances Lucetta Hart Born Nov 15 1836 Died Sept. 20 1912�

          � At Winterville Cemetery, �Lucretia F. Harte, born Nov. 15, 1837?
          (stone broken) and died Sept. 9, 1912�
          Source: St. Amand, Jeannette Cox, Pitt County Gravestone Records, NC,
          Vol. 2


          And Mary Ann's husband:

          Elder Elias Barram. Hart
          b. 12 Mar 1857
          d, 2 Nov 1921, Snow Hill, Greene Co., NC
          bur. Harrell's Ch. Cem, near Snow Hill, NC

          � Harrell�s Chapel Church Cemetery
          #35in Virginia Kilpatrick�s Greene County, NC Cemetery Inscriptions
          �Located on Highway #58 (Snow Hill - Stantonsburg) on left side of
          road at church.�



          Mary Ann/Mary E. Hart
          b. 24 Jul 1858/1859
          d. 22 Mar 1931
          bur. Harrell's Ch. Cem, near Snow Hill, NC, �Mary A. wife of E. B. Hart�




          Trish


          On Jul 7, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Paula Baker wrote:

          > I do find a Mary Ann Hart with Alex Hart in Greene County. However,
          > I'm wondering why one of her children's death certificate reads Mary
          > Ann Baker instead of Hart. Very odd.
          > Paula Baker
          > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South
          > Carolina, and Louisiana and
          > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
          >
          > "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links
          > in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without
          > those who went before us and showed us the way."
          >
          > Thomas Mann
          >
          > ----- Original Message ----
          > From: Paula Baker <paulabaker69@...>
          > To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 9:27:56 AM
          > Subject: [genpcncfir] Death Certificate
          >
          > I think I found the death certificate and it lists Marry A. Hart's
          > father as Alex Baker and her mother as a Frizelle. But for some of
          > the children's death certificates, it lists Mary Ann Baker as the
          > mother. I wonder if Alex Hart was a guardian. The Mary Ann Baker
          > I'm looking for--her parents died when she was very young and the
          > Hobbs and Baker grandparents raised her. We had always thought
          > that she died young. James Baker and Mary Ann Baker's
          > stepgrandmother Harriett Priscillan Darden Moye Baker died about
          > 1872. I wonder if she went to live with Alex Hart then. I'll do
          > some more checking.
          > Paula Baker
          > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South
          > Carolina, and Louisiana and
          > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
          >
          > "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links
          > in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without
          > those who went before us and showed us the way."
          >
          > Thomas Mann
          >
          > ----- Original Message ----
          > From: Paula Baker <paulabaker69@ yahoo.com>
          > To: genpcncfir@yahoogro ups.com
          > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 9:10:35 AM
          > Subject: Re: [genpcncfir] Elias Hart/This is the family I'm
          > interested in/Please pass to Greene and Pitt Lists
          >
          > Name:Elias Hart
          > Home in 1900:Shine, Greene, North Carolina
          > Age:43
          > Estimated Birth Year:abt 1857
          > Birthplace:North Carolina
          > Relationship to head-of-house: Head
          > Spouse's Name:Mary A
          > Race:White
          > Occupation:View Image
          > Neighbors:View others on page
          > Household Members:Name
          > Age
          > Elias Hart 43
          > Mary A Hart 41
          > Willie Hart 16
          > Alex Hart 13
          > Estella Hart 11
          > Roman Hart 7
          > John Hart 2
          > Paula Baker
          > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South
          > Carolina, and Louisiana and
          > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
          >
          > "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links
          > in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without
          > those who went before us and showed us the way."
          >
          > Thomas Mann
          >
          > ----- Original Message ----
          > From: Paula Baker <paulabaker69@ yahoo.com>
          > To: genpcncfir@yahoogro ups.com
          > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 7:35:52 AM
          > Subject: [genpcncfir] Elias Hart
          >
          > Do any of you have Elias Hart in your line? The younger one? He
          > may be Barren Hart. I need info on his wife Mary Ann Baker. I
          > think she could be the sister of my William Baker and James Hines
          > Baker from Greene Co NC. They lived in Greene Co and she lived
          > until 1920 or so. I can't find a death certificate on her, though.
          > Maybe some of you are better at searching on Ancestry than I am.
          > She died before 1930. I guess she could have remarried at an old age.
          > Paula Baker
          > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South
          > Carolina, and Louisiana and
          > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
          >
          > "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links
          > in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without
          > those who went before us and showed us the way."
          >
          > Thomas Mann
          > _,_._,___
          >
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        • Paula Baker
          You can understand my excitement, but I can see that a mistake was made somehow and she is a Hart, not a Baker.  Thanks so much.  Really good information. 
          Message 4 of 6 , Jul 7, 2008
            You can understand my excitement, but I can see that a mistake was made somehow and�she is a Hart, not a Baker.� Thanks so much.� Really good information.� I hope it helps someone else on the list.
            �Paula Baker
            Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South Carolina, and Louisiana and
            Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina


            "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way."


            Thomas Mann



            ----- Original Message ----
            From: Trish Worthington Cobb <turniproots@...>
            To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 3:22:22 PM
            Subject: Re: [genpcncfir] Mary Ann Hart

            Paula,

            I have the following as Mary Ann Hart's parents


            Alexander Caleb Hart, Rev.
            b. 1 Mar 1836
            d. 30 Jan 1903, �age 67 years and 11 mos.�
            � Age 14 in 1850 Census, Greene County, N.C.; in mother�s home.

            � #47. A. C. Hart Record (1836-1931)
            "Dobbs County Bible Records, Vol. IV,� by Bill Murphy
            (A copy can be found at Heritage Place, Lenoir Community College,�
            Kinston, NC.)
            �Alexander Caleb was the son of Jesse Hart and Mary Spivey who lived�
            near Maury in Greene County.� His wife was Lusetta Frizzle.� A. C.�
            Hart was a Free Will Baptist minister, but in the late 1880�s (he)�
            joined the Disciples of Christ.� This record is in the possessiion of�
            Frances Hart Kight.�

            � #48. Hart Record (1858-1892)
            "Dobbs County Bible Records, Vol. IV,� by Bill Murphy
            (A copy can be found at Heritage Place, Lenoir Community College,�
            Kinston, NC.)
            �This record appears to be a partial listing of the children of�
            Alexander C. Hart and Lusetta Frizzle.� It is currently owned by�
            Frances Hart Knight.�



            Frances Lucetta Frizzle
            b. 15 Nov 1838
            d. 9 Sep 1912, �age 74 years 9 months & 8 days�
            � Lucetta Frizzle was age 12 in the 1850 Census of Greene County, NC,�
            listed in her father�s home

            * The A.C. Harte Bible Record has two entries for Lucetta Hart�s birth�
            and death:
            �Lusetta F. Hart his wife was borned Nov. 15. 18.0.38 died Sept. 9th�
            19.0.12. age 74 years 9 months & 8 days�
            �Frances Lucetta Hart Born Nov 15 1836 Died Sept. 20 1912�

            � At Winterville Cemetery, �Lucretia F. Harte, born Nov. 15, 1837?�
            (stone broken) and died Sept. 9, 1912�
            Source: St. Amand, Jeannette Cox, Pitt County Gravestone Records, NC,�
            Vol. 2


            And Mary Ann's husband:

            Elder Elias Barram. Hart
            b. 12 Mar 1857
            d, 2 Nov 1921, Snow Hill, Greene Co., NC
            bur. Harrell's Ch. Cem, near Snow Hill, NC

            � Harrell�s Chapel Church Cemetery
            #35in Virginia Kilpatrick�s Greene County, NC Cemetery Inscriptions
            �Located on Highway #58 (Snow Hill - Stantonsburg) on left side of�
            road at church.�



            Mary Ann/Mary E. Hart
            b. 24 Jul 1858/1859
            d. 22 Mar 1931
            bur. Harrell's Ch. Cem, near Snow Hill, NC, �Mary A. wife of E. B. Hart�




            Trish


            On Jul 7, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Paula Baker wrote:

            > I do find a Mary Ann Hart with Alex Hart in Greene County.� However,�
            > I'm wondering why one of her children's death certificate reads Mary�
            > Ann Baker instead of Hart.� Very odd.
            >� Paula Baker
            > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South�
            > Carolina, and Louisiana and
            > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
            >
            > "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links�
            > in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without�
            > those who went before us and showed us the way."
            >
            > Thomas Mann
            >
            > ----- Original Message ----
            > From: Paula Baker <paulabaker69@...>
            > To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 9:27:56 AM
            > Subject: [genpcncfir] Death Certificate
            >
            > I think I found the death certificate and it lists Marry A. Hart's�
            > father as Alex Baker and her mother as a Frizelle.� But for some of�
            > the children's death certificates, it lists Mary Ann Baker as the�
            > mother.� I wonder if Alex Hart was a guardian.� The Mary Ann Baker�
            > I'm looking for--her parents died when she was very young and the�
            > Hobbs and Baker grandparents� raised her.� We had always thought�
            > that she died young.� James Baker and Mary Ann Baker's�
            > stepgrandmother Harriett Priscillan Darden Moye Baker died about�
            > 1872.� I wonder if she went to live with Alex Hart then.� I'll do�
            > some more checking.
            >� Paula Baker
            > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South�
            > Carolina, and Louisiana and
            > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
            >
            > "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links�
            > in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without�
            > those who went before us and showed us the way."
            >
            > Thomas Mann
            >
            > ----- Original Message ----
            > From: Paula Baker <paulabaker69@ yahoo.com>
            > To: genpcncfir@yahoogro ups.com
            > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 9:10:35 AM
            > Subject: Re: [genpcncfir] Elias Hart/This is the family I'm�
            > interested in/Please pass to Greene and Pitt Lists
            >
            > Name:Elias Hart
            > Home in 1900:Shine, Greene, North Carolina
            > Age:43
            > Estimated Birth Year:abt 1857
            > Birthplace:North Carolina
            > Relationship to head-of-house: Head
            > Spouse's Name:Mary A
            > Race:White
            > Occupation:View Image
            > Neighbors:View others on page
            > Household Members:Name
            > Age
            > Elias Hart 43
            > Mary A Hart 41
            > Willie Hart 16
            > Alex Hart 13
            > Estella Hart 11
            > Roman Hart 7
            > John Hart 2
            >� Paula Baker
            > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South�
            > Carolina, and Louisiana and
            > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
            >
            > "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links�
            > in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without�
            > those who went before us and showed us the way."
            >
            > Thomas Mann
            >
            > ----- Original Message ----
            > From: Paula Baker <paulabaker69@ yahoo.com>
            > To: genpcncfir@yahoogro ups.com
            > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 7:35:52 AM
            > Subject: [genpcncfir] Elias Hart
            >
            > Do any of you have Elias Hart in your line?� The younger one?� He�
            > may be Barren Hart.� I need info on his wife Mary Ann Baker.� I�
            > think she could be the sister of my William Baker and James Hines�
            > Baker from Greene Co NC.� They lived in Greene Co and she lived�
            > until 1920 or so.� I can't find a death certificate on her, though.�
            > Maybe some of you are better at searching on Ancestry than I am.�
            > She died before 1930.� I guess she could have remarried at an old age.
            >� Paula Baker
            > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South�
            > Carolina, and Louisiana and
            > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina
            >
            > "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links�
            > in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without�
            > those who went before us and showed us the way."
            >
            > Thomas Mann
            > _,_._,___
            >
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