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  • johnameyer59
    Iam searching for my Braxton family line. I m hoping toconnect them to their families and learn more about them. My 5th great grandfather was Ralph Allen. His
    Message 1 of 29 , Sep 28, 2007
      Iam searching for my Braxton family line. I'm hoping toconnect them to
      their families and learn more about them.

      My 5th great grandfather was Ralph Allen. His wife was Elizabeth
      Braxton of Pitt County N.C.

      I believe that Elizabeth Braxton's father was James Braxton Jr. His
      father was James Braxton.

      I believe that this Braxton family left N.C. and moved to Tennesee
      where Elizabeth met Ralph Allen.

      The dates here are the late 1700's.

      Any help would be appreciated.

      John Meyer hookipajohn@...
    • Carol Singh
      Dear Johnny, This James Braxton was my great, great, great, great uncle. It descends from John Braxton and Hannah through Lacey Braxton and first wife
      Message 2 of 29 , Oct 1, 2007
        Dear Johnny,
        This James Braxton was my great, great, great,
        great uncle. It descends from John Braxton and Hannah
        through Lacey Braxton and first wife Elizabeth Parker
        (son Elias Braxton) and second wife Lizina Tripp
        daughter of Arthur Tripp.
        A 1915 letter of Elias to the Daily Reflector
        chronicles this information. The letter was published
        in one of the Pitt County Family Researcher's
        Genealogical Quarterlies. I can look back through my
        e-mails and supply the issue for you.
        It's good to hear from you cousin!
        Looking forward to sharing information, Carol
        By the way, I live in Richmond, Virginia but was
        born in Pitt County.
        --- johnameyer59 <hookipajohn@...> wrote:

        > Iam searching for my Braxton family line. I'm hoping
        > toconnect them to
        > their families and learn more about them.
        >
        > My 5th great grandfather was Ralph Allen. His wife
        > was Elizabeth
        > Braxton of Pitt County N.C.
        >
        > I believe that Elizabeth Braxton's father was James
        > Braxton Jr. His
        > father was James Braxton.
        >
        > I believe that this Braxton family left N.C. and
        > moved to Tennesee
        > where Elizabeth met Ralph Allen.
        >
        > The dates here are the late 1700's.
        >
        > Any help would be appreciated.
        >
        > John Meyer hookipajohn@...
        >
        >




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      • Carol Singh
        Dear John, I meant to say that your ancestor James was the brother of Warren Braxton and Felix Braxton, also my great uncles. Warren and Felix stayed in Pitt,
        Message 3 of 29 , Oct 1, 2007
          Dear John,
          I meant to say that your ancestor James was the
          brother of Warren Braxton and Felix Braxton, also my
          great uncles. Warren and Felix stayed in Pitt, but
          their brother James moved to Tennessee.
          The Pitt County relatives have continued to the
          present day to name children for these ancestors who
          left for Tennessee sometime after 1840 to find good
          farming land.
          The same can be said for the family of Elias
          Braxton whose father was Lacey Braxton. His brother
          John is my direct line.
          My parents were Elbert Lee Braxton and Clyde Rae
          Worthington; grandparents Elijah B. and Dosie Dail
          Braxton; great grandparents James Elias Braxton and
          Sarah Sutton; great great grandparents James Braxton
          and Martha Crawford; great great great grandparents [I
          believe that is the right number of "greats"]John
          Braxton and Hannah.
          If you go to the website of the Pitt County Family
          Researchers and click on related links, you can access
          Lisa Scarola's website Some Pitt County McGowans and
          Sermons and find our surname and many related Pitt
          County families.
          http://wwww.rootsweb/~ncpcfr
          The Quarterly was February 1995 for Elias Braxton
          whose father Lacey Braxton and wife Lezina Tripp went
          to Tennessee although Elias later moved to Texas where
          his descendants still live today.
          Later, Carol

          --- johnameyer59 <hookipajohn@...> wrote:

          > Iam searching for my Braxton family line. I'm hoping
          > toconnect them to
          > their families and learn more about them.
          >
          > My 5th great grandfather was Ralph Allen. His wife
          > was Elizabeth
          > Braxton of Pitt County N.C.
          >
          > I believe that Elizabeth Braxton's father was James
          > Braxton Jr. His
          > father was James Braxton.
          >
          > I believe that this Braxton family left N.C. and
          > moved to Tennesee
          > where Elizabeth met Ralph Allen.
          >
          > The dates here are the late 1700's.
          >
          > Any help would be appreciated.
          >
          > John Meyer hookipajohn@...
          >
          >



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        • John Meyer
          I made a mistake in my previous posting I want to correct. I used the name Elizabeth Braxton. It should of been Mary Braxton. I believe her father was James
          Message 4 of 29 , Oct 1, 2007
            I made a mistake in my previous posting I want to correct. I used the name Elizabeth Braxton. It should of been Mary Braxton. I believe her father was James Braxton Jr. Her grandfather was James Braxton Sr. Her great grandfather was John Braxton. It was said that Mary Braxton was born in Scotland.

            Thank you,
            John Meyer.

            My direct line to the Braxton's,

            Richard Allen m. Mary Braxton they had,
            William H. (Hodges) Allen m. Mary Choctaw women and they had,
            Major John Braxton Allen m. Elizabeth Harrod and they had,
            Wesley Dow Allen m. Melissa Jane White and they had,
            Ida Eugenia Allen m. George Wilson Johnston and they had,
            Donnie Lois Johnston / Unknown they had,
            Joy Eugenia Johnston m. Willam Andrew Meyer and they had,
            John Meyer, me.
            .
            Note about the Allen family; They continued using the Braxton name as a
            middle name. My 2nd great grandfather Wesley Dow Allen named one of his
            son's Braxton Allen. It's also a name used by many other's in our family.
            If I had known about the name I would of named one of my boy's Braxton.

            John
          • Carol Singh
            Dear John, My immediate Braxton line descends from James Braxton (1710) England as far back as some of our Pitt County Family Researchers have traced them. I
            Message 5 of 29 , Oct 3, 2007
              Dear John,
              My immediate Braxton line descends from James
              Braxton (1710) England as far back as some of our Pitt
              County Family Researchers have traced them.
              I could not find the Braxton surname in a library
              reference entitled English Surnames. This may have led
              to some people's assuming that the name had originally
              been spelled differently, which probably was the case
              anyway since spellings of names is not set in stone.
              I am not sure in any case if our earliest ancestors
              lived in England. Mama said that the Braxtons had
              Irish roots, but her own line was from both Scotland
              and Ireland.
              Mama's maternal line came here from Scotland. About
              the same time, Braxtons also showed up in Pitt County,
              North Carolina living in close proximity to Mama's
              family in one census record after another and then
              intermarrying, a trend that continues down to the
              present generation.
              This family history leads me to believe that our
              families had known one another across the seas and
              shared a common heritage.
              We have a James Braxton, Sr. and a James Braxton,
              Jr. in our line. Going back to your ancestress, I do
              not know if any of us would have happened upon the
              name of her mother. Many of the records mention the
              wives only as "wife of James Braxton."
              Both Elizabeth and Mary go back in our Braxton line
              to our earliest appearance in this country and has
              continued through the generations.
              Chances are, though, that if your Braxtons settled
              in Pitt and then removed to Tennessee, they descendend
              from my great uncles.
              John Braxton and Mary were our earliest ancestors in
              Pitt County.
              I am hopeful that other Group members with more
              knowledge than I will share their information with you
              on these early Braxtons.
              Good to hear from you and to learn more about our
              Braxton roots.
              Later, Carol
              --- John Meyer <hookipajohn@...> wrote:

              > I made a mistake in my previous posting I want to
              > correct. I used the name Elizabeth Braxton. It
              > should of been Mary Braxton. I believe her father
              > was James Braxton Jr. Her grandfather was James
              > Braxton Sr. Her great grandfather was John Braxton.
              > It was said that Mary Braxton was born in Scotland.
              >
              > Thank you,
              > John Meyer.
              >
              > My direct line to the Braxton's,
              >
              > Richard Allen m. Mary Braxton they had,
              > William H. (Hodges) Allen m. Mary Choctaw women and
              > they had,
              > Major John Braxton Allen m. Elizabeth Harrod and
              > they had,
              > Wesley Dow Allen m. Melissa Jane White and they had,
              > Ida Eugenia Allen m. George Wilson Johnston and they
              > had,
              > Donnie Lois Johnston / Unknown they had,
              > Joy Eugenia Johnston m. Willam Andrew Meyer and they
              > had,
              > John Meyer, me.
              > .
              > Note about the Allen family; They continued using
              > the Braxton name as a
              > middle name. My 2nd great grandfather Wesley Dow
              > Allen named one of his
              > son's Braxton Allen. It's also a name used by many
              > other's in our family.
              > If I had known about the name I would of named one
              > of my boy's Braxton.
              >
              > John
              >
              >
              >




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            • John Meyer
              Thank you for your reply. About James Braxton, Moving to Tenn. makes perfect since to me. As the Allen s had also. Very strong use of the Braxton family name
              Message 6 of 29 , Oct 12, 2007
                Thank you for your reply.

                About James Braxton,
                Moving to Tenn. makes perfect since to me. As the Allen's had also.

                Very strong use of the Braxton family name continued for so long a time, in the Allen family, leads me to believe that there was a continuing connection.

                Do you have any knowledge of what religion the Braxton's were? Were they Quaker's?

                Did the Braxton's particapate in the Revolutionary War?

                Did they fight in the Indian War's?

                Do you know anything about Braxton Mississippi ?

                My family end's up in French Lick (N.C.) Fort Nashbourgh, Nashville, Tenn. It was known at that time as a Military District. Land grant's were given as a reward for military services.

                Every answer only leads to another question,

                Thank you,

                John Meyer




                To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.comCC: CSinghWorthington@...: csinghworthington@...: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:09:47 -0700Subject: Re: [genpcncfir] Braxton family




                Dear John,I meant to say that your ancestor James was thebrother of Warren Braxton and Felix Braxton, also mygreat uncles. Warren and Felix stayed in Pitt, buttheir brother James moved to Tennessee. The Pitt County relatives have continued to thepresent day to name children for these ancestors wholeft for Tennessee sometime after 1840 to find goodfarming land.The same can be said for the family of EliasBraxton whose father was Lacey Braxton. His brotherJohn is my direct line.My parents were Elbert Lee Braxton and Clyde RaeWorthington; grandparents Elijah B. and Dosie DailBraxton; great grandparents James Elias Braxton andSarah Sutton; great great grandparents James Braxtonand Martha Crawford; great great great grandparents [Ibelieve that is the right number of "greats"]JohnBraxton and Hannah.If you go to the website of the Pitt County FamilyResearchers and click on related links, you can accessLisa Scarola's website Some Pitt County McGowans andSermons and find our surname and many related PittCounty families.http://wwww.rootsweb/~ncpcfrThe Quarterly was February 1995 for Elias Braxtonwhose father Lacey Braxton and wife Lezina Tripp wentto Tennessee although Elias later moved to Texas wherehis descendants still live today.Later, Carol--- johnameyer59 <hookipajohn@...> wrote:> Iam searching for my Braxton family line. I'm hoping> toconnect them to > their families and learn more about them.> > My 5th great grandfather was Ralph Allen. His wife> was Elizabeth > Braxton of Pitt County N.C. > > I believe that Elizabeth Braxton's father was James> Braxton Jr. His > father was James Braxton.> > I believe that this Braxton family left N.C. and> moved to Tennesee > where Elizabeth met Ralph Allen.> > The dates here are the late 1700's.> > Any help would be appreciated.> > John Meyer hookipajohn@...> > __________________________________________________________Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7


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              • John Meyer
                Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White, Minyard, Harrod, Holland, Lee, Davis, and other s Thank you very much. You brought exciting news. I would be
                Message 7 of 29 , Oct 21, 2007
                  Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White, Minyard, Harrod, Holland, Lee, Davis, and other's


                  Thank you very much. You brought exciting news.

                  I would be thrilled to hear anything about the Braxton's family line.

                  I would like to see if I have correct what you have told me so far, It all fits
                  with the rest of my family.

                  My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's father was 7. James Braxton Jr.
                  James Braxton Jr's father was 8. James Braxton Sr.
                  James Braxton Sr's parent's were 9. Lacey Braxton and first wife Elizabeth Parker.
                  Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp, daughter of Arthur Tripp.
                  Lacey Braxton and second wife had a son Elias Braxton.
                  Lacey Braxton's parent's were 10. John Braxton m. Hannah unknown.

                  From another posting I have the date for John Braxton abt. 1710 Scotland.

                  John
                • Marcia McLawhorn
                  Dear John, Be careful and watch your dates. You stated, From another posting I have the date for John Braxton abt. 1710 Scotland. This may well be your line,
                  Message 8 of 29 , Oct 23, 2007
                    Dear John,
                    Be careful and watch your dates.

                    You stated, "From another posting I have the date for John Braxton abt. 1710 Scotland."
                    This may well be your line, but I find it hard to believe that it is the same John Braxton.

                    The John Braxton (wife: Hannah) and father of Lacey Braxton (born in 1807; wife: Elizabeth Parker), would be sireing children at almost 100 years of age.
                    More than likely, there is one or two additional generations.

                    Sincerely, Marcia

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                  • Carol Singh
                    Dear Marcia, You are right about that. The first Braxton male listed by some of our kin as our original colonial settler was John Braxton (b. 1730) in England.
                    Message 9 of 29 , Oct 29, 2007
                      Dear Marcia,
                      You are right about that. The first Braxton male
                      listed by some of our kin as our original colonial
                      settler was John Braxton (b. 1730) in England. Some
                      sources give his father as James Braxton (1710). It is
                      possible that the family came to England from
                      elsewhere though Mama had understood from our
                      grandmother that it was Ireland.
                      If our direct line was from James Braxton (1710),
                      it is possible that this earlier John was the
                      collateral line.
                      In any case, the book of English surnames I
                      checked in our library here does not list Braxton as
                      an English surname.
                      Since, however, everyone's information shows our
                      first colonial John Braxton born 1730 in England and
                      his wife Mary also born in England, I am inclined to
                      believe that at least by the 1700's the family was in
                      England.
                      Later, Carol
                      --- Marcia McLawhorn <marcia_mclawhorn@...>
                      wrote:

                      > Dear John,
                      > Be careful and watch your dates.
                      >
                      > You stated, "From another posting I have the date
                      > for John Braxton abt. 1710 Scotland."
                      > This may well be your line, but I find it hard to
                      > believe that it is the same John Braxton.
                      >
                      > The John Braxton (wife: Hannah) and father of
                      > Lacey Braxton (born in 1807; wife: Elizabeth
                      > Parker), would be sireing children at almost 100
                      > years of age.
                      > More than likely, there is one or two additional
                      > generations.
                      >
                      > Sincerely, Marcia
                      >
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                    • Carol Singh
                      Dear John: The father of Elias was my several times great uncle. Elias himself is a dead ringer for my younger brother. A cousin from his direct line sent me
                      Message 10 of 29 , Oct 29, 2007
                        Dear John:
                        The father of Elias was my several times great
                        uncle. Elias himself is a dead ringer for my younger
                        brother. A cousin from his direct line sent me his
                        picture. I could not believe it!
                        Back to you later. Have to go to work.
                        Carol
                        --- John Meyer <hookipajohn@...> wrote:

                        > Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White, Minyard,
                        > Harrod, Holland, Lee, Davis, and other's
                        >
                        >
                        > Thank you very much. You brought exciting news.
                        >
                        > I would be thrilled to hear anything about the
                        > Braxton's family line.
                        >
                        > I would like to see if I have correct what you have
                        > told me so far, It all fits
                        > with the rest of my family.
                        >
                        > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's father was
                        > 7. James Braxton Jr.
                        > James Braxton Jr's father was 8. James Braxton Sr.
                        > James Braxton Sr's parent's were 9. Lacey Braxton
                        > and first wife Elizabeth Parker.
                        > Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp, daughter of Arthur
                        > Tripp.
                        > Lacey Braxton and second wife had a son Elias
                        > Braxton.
                        > Lacey Braxton's parent's were 10. John Braxton m.
                        > Hannah unknown.
                        >
                        > From another posting I have the date for John
                        > Braxton abt. 1710 Scotland.
                        >
                        > John
                        >
                        >
                        >


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                      • Linda E
                        Hi John, I m confused, are you descended from Lacey Braxton? If so, he only had 3 sons by Elizabeth Parker... Marion, Elbert and Elias (my grgrgrandfather).
                        Message 11 of 29 , Nov 19, 2007
                          Hi John,

                          I'm confused, are you descended from Lacey Braxton? If so, he only
                          had 3 sons by Elizabeth Parker... Marion, Elbert and Elias (my
                          grgrgrandfather). Elias is the only one who lived to have children.
                          Lacey had 6 more children with 2nd wife Lizzina Tripp; John M.,
                          Eliza, Mary, Patrick, James and Friedonia. Lacey's family did move
                          to Tennessee. Elias's family mostly moved on to Texas. Elias
                          married Margaret J. Epps and had 8 children. Let me know if I can
                          help you with this line. Linda E.



                          --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, John Meyer <hookipajohn@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White, Minyard, Harrod,
                          Holland, Lee, Davis, and other's
                          >
                          >
                          > Thank you very much. You brought exciting news.
                          >
                          > I would be thrilled to hear anything about the Braxton's family
                          line.
                          >
                          > I would like to see if I have correct what you have told me so far,
                          It all fits
                          > with the rest of my family.
                          >
                          > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's father was 7. James Braxton
                          Jr.
                          > James Braxton Jr's father was 8. James Braxton Sr.
                          > James Braxton Sr's parent's were 9. Lacey Braxton and first wife
                          Elizabeth Parker.
                          > Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp, daughter of Arthur Tripp.
                          > Lacey Braxton and second wife had a son Elias Braxton.
                          > Lacey Braxton's parent's were 10. John Braxton m. Hannah unknown.
                          >
                          > From another posting I have the date for John Braxton abt. 1710
                          Scotland.
                          >
                          > John
                          >
                        • Carol Singh
                          Dear Linda & John, Lacey was my great, great, great uncle. I think the John mentioned as a brother of Lacey in the 1915 letter of Elias, his son, was John
                          Message 12 of 29 , Nov 19, 2007
                            Dear Linda & John,
                            Lacey was my great, great, great uncle.
                            I think the John mentioned as a brother of Lacey
                            in the 1915 letter of Elias, his son, was John Braxton
                            who married Hannah. I think these were the parents of
                            John Braxton and Sarah and that these were the parents
                            of James Braxton (1800) who married Martha Crawford
                            and who had my great grandfather James Elias Braxton.
                            I am almost certain of the John Braxton and
                            Sarah's connection to James Braxton and Martha
                            Crawford because of their proximity in every cenus but
                            have found no other connection.
                            I know that the brother James Braxton of Felix
                            and Warren was not my great grandfather because of a
                            Chronicles II article that listed the descendants of
                            this James Braxton.
                            Help me, please, if you can.
                            I also found the marriage record of one James
                            Elias Braxton who married Sarah Sutton. I knew from my
                            family that she was my great grandmother, and I knew
                            that my great grandfather was Elias. What I did not
                            know was that he had the first name James. Apparently
                            nobody ever called him James, most likely because his
                            father's name was James.
                            If either of you have any information that can
                            shed some light on this darkness, please brighten my
                            day.
                            Later, Carol
                            --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:

                            > Hi John,
                            >
                            > I'm confused, are you descended from Lacey Braxton?
                            > If so, he only
                            > had 3 sons by Elizabeth Parker... Marion, Elbert and
                            > Elias (my
                            > grgrgrandfather). Elias is the only one who lived
                            > to have children.
                            > Lacey had 6 more children with 2nd wife Lizzina
                            > Tripp; John M.,
                            > Eliza, Mary, Patrick, James and Friedonia. Lacey's
                            > family did move
                            > to Tennessee. Elias's family mostly moved on to
                            > Texas. Elias
                            > married Margaret J. Epps and had 8 children. Let me
                            > know if I can
                            > help you with this line. Linda E.
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, John Meyer
                            > <hookipajohn@...> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White,
                            > Minyard, Harrod,
                            > Holland, Lee, Davis, and other's
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Thank you very much. You brought exciting news.
                            > >
                            > > I would be thrilled to hear anything about the
                            > Braxton's family
                            > line.
                            > >
                            > > I would like to see if I have correct what you
                            > have told me so far,
                            > It all fits
                            > > with the rest of my family.
                            > >
                            > > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's father was
                            > 7. James Braxton
                            > Jr.
                            > > James Braxton Jr's father was 8. James Braxton Sr.
                            > > James Braxton Sr's parent's were 9. Lacey Braxton
                            > and first wife
                            > Elizabeth Parker.
                            > > Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp, daughter of
                            > Arthur Tripp.
                            > > Lacey Braxton and second wife had a son Elias
                            > Braxton.
                            > > Lacey Braxton's parent's were 10. John Braxton m.
                            > Hannah unknown.
                            > >
                            > > From another posting I have the date for John
                            > Braxton abt. 1710
                            > Scotland.
                            > >
                            > > John
                            > >
                            >
                            >
                            >



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                          • Carol Singh
                            Dear Linda, By the way, whom do you have as the father of Lacey Braxton s father? Who exactly were the James, Sr. and James, Jr. who appear in either the 1800
                            Message 13 of 29 , Nov 19, 2007
                              Dear Linda,
                              By the way, whom do you have as the father of
                              Lacey Braxton's father?
                              Who exactly were the James, Sr. and James, Jr. who
                              appear in either the 1800 or the 1820 census--I don't
                              have these records here with me this evening, so can't
                              say for sure which of the years both were together? I
                              am simply doing recall right now.
                              Who was "John Braxton, the son of James" in one of
                              these same census records?
                              Finally, was there a generation gap between John
                              Braxton (1730) and the next John Braxton who appears
                              in census records, or was this John the son of John
                              Braxton (1730) and his wife Mary?
                              Hope you and your family are well and looking
                              forward to the holidays ahead. As usual, I truly value
                              your input and look forward to hearing from you.
                              Later, Carol
                              --- Carol Singh <csinghworthington@...> wrote:

                              > Dear Linda & John,
                              > Lacey was my great, great, great uncle.
                              > I think the John mentioned as a brother of Lacey
                              > in the 1915 letter of Elias, his son, was John
                              > Braxton
                              > who married Hannah. I think these were the parents
                              > of
                              > John Braxton and Sarah and that these were the
                              > parents
                              > of James Braxton (1800) who married Martha Crawford
                              > and who had my great grandfather James Elias
                              > Braxton.
                              > I am almost certain of the John Braxton and
                              > Sarah's connection to James Braxton and Martha
                              > Crawford because of their proximity in every cenus
                              > but
                              > have found no other connection.
                              > I know that the brother James Braxton of Felix
                              > and Warren was not my great grandfather because of a
                              > Chronicles II article that listed the descendants of
                              > this James Braxton.
                              > Help me, please, if you can.
                              > I also found the marriage record of one James
                              > Elias Braxton who married Sarah Sutton. I knew from
                              > my
                              > family that she was my great grandmother, and I
                              > knew
                              > that my great grandfather was Elias. What I did not
                              > know was that he had the first name James.
                              > Apparently
                              > nobody ever called him James, most likely because
                              > his
                              > father's name was James.
                              > If either of you have any information that can
                              > shed some light on this darkness, please brighten my
                              > day.
                              > Later, Carol
                              > --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > > Hi John,
                              > >
                              > > I'm confused, are you descended from Lacey
                              > Braxton?
                              > > If so, he only
                              > > had 3 sons by Elizabeth Parker... Marion, Elbert
                              > and
                              > > Elias (my
                              > > grgrgrandfather). Elias is the only one who lived
                              > > to have children.
                              > > Lacey had 6 more children with 2nd wife Lizzina
                              > > Tripp; John M.,
                              > > Eliza, Mary, Patrick, James and Friedonia.
                              > Lacey's
                              > > family did move
                              > > to Tennessee. Elias's family mostly moved on to
                              > > Texas. Elias
                              > > married Margaret J. Epps and had 8 children. Let
                              > me
                              > > know if I can
                              > > help you with this line. Linda E.
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, John Meyer
                              > > <hookipajohn@...> wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White,
                              > > Minyard, Harrod,
                              > > Holland, Lee, Davis, and other's
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > Thank you very much. You brought exciting news.
                              > > >
                              > > > I would be thrilled to hear anything about the
                              > > Braxton's family
                              > > line.
                              > > >
                              > > > I would like to see if I have correct what you
                              > > have told me so far,
                              > > It all fits
                              > > > with the rest of my family.
                              > > >
                              > > > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's father
                              > was
                              > > 7. James Braxton
                              > > Jr.
                              > > > James Braxton Jr's father was 8. James Braxton
                              > Sr.
                              > > > James Braxton Sr's parent's were 9. Lacey
                              > Braxton
                              > > and first wife
                              > > Elizabeth Parker.
                              > > > Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp, daughter of
                              > > Arthur Tripp.
                              > > > Lacey Braxton and second wife had a son Elias
                              > > Braxton.
                              > > > Lacey Braxton's parent's were 10. John Braxton
                              > m.
                              > > Hannah unknown.
                              > > >
                              > > > From another posting I have the date for John
                              > > Braxton abt. 1710
                              > > Scotland.
                              > > >
                              > > > John
                              > > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
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                            • Carol Singh
                              Dear Linda, John, Thomas, James Jr. & James Sr. all appear on the sole census from the 1700 s. How many sons of Thomas and Priscilla do you have names for?
                              Message 14 of 29 , Nov 19, 2007
                                Dear Linda,
                                John, Thomas, James Jr. & James Sr. all appear on
                                the sole census from the 1700's.
                                How many sons of Thomas and Priscilla do you have
                                names for?
                                Later, Carol
                                --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:

                                > Hi John,
                                >
                                > I'm confused, are you descended from Lacey Braxton?
                                > If so, he only
                                > had 3 sons by Elizabeth Parker... Marion, Elbert and
                                > Elias (my
                                > grgrgrandfather). Elias is the only one who lived
                                > to have children.
                                > Lacey had 6 more children with 2nd wife Lizzina
                                > Tripp; John M.,
                                > Eliza, Mary, Patrick, James and Friedonia. Lacey's
                                > family did move
                                > to Tennessee. Elias's family mostly moved on to
                                > Texas. Elias
                                > married Margaret J. Epps and had 8 children. Let me
                                > know if I can
                                > help you with this line. Linda E.
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, John Meyer
                                > <hookipajohn@...> wrote:
                                > >
                                > > Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White,
                                > Minyard, Harrod,
                                > Holland, Lee, Davis, and other's
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > Thank you very much. You brought exciting news.
                                > >
                                > > I would be thrilled to hear anything about the
                                > Braxton's family
                                > line.
                                > >
                                > > I would like to see if I have correct what you
                                > have told me so far,
                                > It all fits
                                > > with the rest of my family.
                                > >
                                > > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's father was
                                > 7. James Braxton
                                > Jr.
                                > > James Braxton Jr's father was 8. James Braxton Sr.
                                > > James Braxton Sr's parent's were 9. Lacey Braxton
                                > and first wife
                                > Elizabeth Parker.
                                > > Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp, daughter of
                                > Arthur Tripp.
                                > > Lacey Braxton and second wife had a son Elias
                                > Braxton.
                                > > Lacey Braxton's parent's were 10. John Braxton m.
                                > Hannah unknown.
                                > >
                                > > From another posting I have the date for John
                                > Braxton abt. 1710
                                > Scotland.
                                > >
                                > > John
                                > >
                                >
                                >
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                              • Linda E
                                Hi Carol, I have Thomas and Priscilla Braxton with 4 children; Phelix, Thomas, Henerich and John b. abt 1770. This John married Hannah and had 5 children:
                                Message 15 of 29 , Nov 19, 2007
                                  Hi Carol,

                                  I have Thomas and Priscilla Braxton with 4 children; Phelix, Thomas,
                                  Henerich and John b. abt 1770. This John married Hannah and had 5
                                  children: Charles; Council (m. Sarah Roundtree); John (m. Sarah);
                                  Molcey (m. Luke McGlohon); and Lacy m. 1. Elilzabeth Parker, 2.
                                  Lizzina Tripp.

                                  Now, Thomas may have been a son of John Braxton and Mary (circa
                                  1730) and a sibling of John, James, William, Jesse and Levi but this
                                  is open to speculation. He was a neighbor of these Braxton's but we
                                  can't prove the relationship, he may have been John Sr.'s brother,
                                  nephew or other relationship. Cannot prove that Thomas is the son of
                                  this John. He lived next door to other sons and relatives. There must
                                  be some relationship. He did not inherit or buy land from John but
                                  did have land of his own. His children Phelix, Thomas, Henerich and
                                  John are listed in land sales from his estate. Thomas was not in the
                                  1800 census but a Priscilla Blackston was with children that would be
                                  consistant with the 1790 census of Thomas Blackston, she may or may
                                  not be his widow. also spelled as Brackston.

                                  Thanks, I'm having a great Thanksgiving and all is well here. Hope
                                  you have a great holiday too. Good to hear from you again.

                                  Linda



                                  --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                  <csinghworthington@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > Dear Linda,
                                  > John, Thomas, James Jr. & James Sr. all appear on
                                  > the sole census from the 1700's.
                                  > How many sons of Thomas and Priscilla do you have
                                  > names for?
                                  > Later, Carol
                                  > --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > > Hi John,
                                  > >
                                  > > I'm confused, are you descended from Lacey Braxton?
                                  > > If so, he only
                                  > > had 3 sons by Elizabeth Parker... Marion, Elbert and
                                  > > Elias (my
                                  > > grgrgrandfather). Elias is the only one who lived
                                  > > to have children.
                                  > > Lacey had 6 more children with 2nd wife Lizzina
                                  > > Tripp; John M.,
                                  > > Eliza, Mary, Patrick, James and Friedonia. Lacey's
                                  > > family did move
                                  > > to Tennessee. Elias's family mostly moved on to
                                  > > Texas. Elias
                                  > > married Margaret J. Epps and had 8 children. Let me
                                  > > know if I can
                                  > > help you with this line. Linda E.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, John Meyer
                                  > > <hookipajohn@> wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White,
                                  > > Minyard, Harrod,
                                  > > Holland, Lee, Davis, and other's
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Thank you very much. You brought exciting news.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I would be thrilled to hear anything about the
                                  > > Braxton's family
                                  > > line.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I would like to see if I have correct what you
                                  > > have told me so far,
                                  > > It all fits
                                  > > > with the rest of my family.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's father was
                                  > > 7. James Braxton
                                  > > Jr.
                                  > > > James Braxton Jr's father was 8. James Braxton Sr.
                                  > > > James Braxton Sr's parent's were 9. Lacey Braxton
                                  > > and first wife
                                  > > Elizabeth Parker.
                                  > > > Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp, daughter of
                                  > > Arthur Tripp.
                                  > > > Lacey Braxton and second wife had a son Elias
                                  > > Braxton.
                                  > > > Lacey Braxton's parent's were 10. John Braxton m.
                                  > > Hannah unknown.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > From another posting I have the date for John
                                  > > Braxton abt. 1710
                                  > > Scotland.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > John
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
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                                • John Meyer
                                  My 5th great grandmother was Mary Braxton. She married Ralph Allen in Dickson Co. Tenn. Bef. 1786 in Dickson Co. Tennessee. Mary Braxton Allen died before 1835
                                  Message 16 of 29 , Nov 20, 2007
                                    My 5th great grandmother was Mary Braxton. She married Ralph Allen in Dickson Co. Tenn. Bef. 1786 in Dickson Co. Tennessee. Mary Braxton Allen died before 1835 in Madison Co. Mississippi.

                                    So it is consistent with the Braxton's who have responded that Mary,s family had moved to Tennessee.

                                    As I mentioned before the Braxton name continues in the Allen family line for many many generations.

                                    Surnames, Allen, Herrod, Braxton, Foster, Tipton, Baily, Martin ,Turnage, Minyard, Johnston, Edwards,Tripp,
                                    White, Hodges and many more.

                                    1. RICHARD R.1 ALLEN was born Abt. 1768 in North Carolina, and died Bef. 25 May 1840 in Madison County,
                                    MS. He married (1) MARY BRAXTON Bef. 1786 in Dickson County, TN (Originally Part Of NC). She was
                                    born in NC, and died Bef. 1835 in Madison County, MS. He married (2) JANE FOSTER 24 Aug 1835 in
                                    Madison County, MS. She was born 1785, and died 11 Nov 1865 in Madison County, MS.



                                    To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.comFrom: ljeckerd@...: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:22:49 +0000Subject: [genpcncfir] Re: Braxton family




                                    Hi Carol,I have Thomas and Priscilla Braxton with 4 children; Phelix, Thomas, Henerich and John b. abt 1770. This John married Hannah and had 5 children: Charles; Council (m. Sarah Roundtree); John (m. Sarah); Molcey (m. Luke McGlohon); and Lacy m. 1. Elilzabeth Parker, 2. Lizzina Tripp.Now, Thomas may have been a son of John Braxton and Mary (circa 1730) and a sibling of John, James, William, Jesse and Levi but this is open to speculation. He was a neighbor of these Braxton's but we can't prove the relationship, he may have been John Sr.'s brother, nephew or other relationship. Cannot prove that Thomas is the son of this John. He lived next door to other sons and relatives. There must be some relationship. He did not inherit or buy land from John but did have land of his own. His children Phelix, Thomas, Henerich and John are listed in land sales from his estate. Thomas was not in the 1800 census but a Priscilla Blackston was with children that would be consistant with the 1790 census of Thomas Blackston, she may or may not be his widow. also spelled as Brackston.Thanks, I'm having a great Thanksgiving and all is well here. Hope you have a great holiday too. Good to hear from you again.Linda--- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh <csinghworthington@...> wrote:>> Dear Linda,> John, Thomas, James Jr. & James Sr. all appear on> the sole census from the 1700's. > How many sons of Thomas and Priscilla do you have> names for?> Later, Carol> --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:> > > Hi John,> > > > I'm confused, are you descended from Lacey Braxton? > > If so, he only > > had 3 sons by Elizabeth Parker... Marion, Elbert and> > Elias (my > > grgrgrandfather). Elias is the only one who lived> > to have children. > > Lacey had 6 more children with 2nd wife Lizzina> > Tripp; John M., > > Eliza, Mary, Patrick, James and Friedonia. Lacey's> > family did move > > to Tennessee. Elias's family mostly moved on to> > Texas. Elias > > married Margaret J. Epps and had 8 children. Let me> > know if I can > > help you with this line. Linda E.> > > > > > > > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, John Meyer> > <hookipajohn@> wrote:> > >> > > Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White,> > Minyard, Harrod, > > Holland, Lee, Davis, and other's> > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. You brought exciting news.> > > > > > I would be thrilled to hear anything about the> > Braxton's family > > line.> > > > > > I would like to see if I have correct what you> > have told me so far, > > It all fits> > > with the rest of my family.> > > > > > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's father was> > 7. James Braxton > > Jr.> > > James Braxton Jr's father was 8. James Braxton Sr.> > > James Braxton Sr's parent's were 9. Lacey Braxton> > and first wife > > Elizabeth Parker.> > > Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp, daughter of> > Arthur Tripp.> > > Lacey Braxton and second wife had a son Elias> > Braxton.> > > Lacey Braxton's parent's were 10. John Braxton m.> > Hannah unknown.> > > > > > From another posting I have the date for John> > Braxton abt. 1710 > > Scotland.> > > > > > John> > >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs>






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                                  • John Meyer
                                    I am researching so many parts of my family I forget sometimes if I responded to this e-mail. 1. RICHARD R.1 ALLEN was born Abt. 1768 in North Carolina, and
                                    Message 17 of 29 , Nov 25, 2007
                                      I am researching so many parts of my family I forget sometimes if I responded to this e-mail.

                                      1. RICHARD R.1 ALLEN was born Abt. 1768 in North Carolina, and died Bef. 25 May 1840 in Madison County,
                                      MS. He married (1) MARY BRAXTON Bef. 1786 in Dickson County, TN (Originally Part Of NC). She was
                                      born in NC, and died Bef. 1835 in Madison County, MS. He married (2) JANE FOSTER 24 Aug 1835 in
                                      Madison County, MS. She was born 1785, and died 11 Nov 1865 in Madison County, MS.

                                      As you can see my Allen and Braxton family merge in Dickson County Tenn. I am assuming that this must be
                                      the daughter of James Braxton Jr. I would love to have a Braxton family group sheet to find my 5th great grandmother and then to see her family.

                                      John


                                      To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.comFrom: ljeckerd@...: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:03:31 +0000Subject: [genpcncfir] Re: Braxton family




                                      Hi John,I'm confused, are you descended from Lacey Braxton? If so, he only had 3 sons by Elizabeth Parker... Marion, Elbert and Elias (my grgrgrandfather). Elias is the only one who lived to have children. Lacey had 6 more children with 2nd wife Lizzina Tripp; John M., Eliza, Mary, Patrick, James and Friedonia. Lacey's family did move to Tennessee. Elias's family mostly moved on to Texas. Elias married Margaret J. Epps and had 8 children. Let me know if I can help you with this line. Linda E.--- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, John Meyer <hookipajohn@...> wrote:>> Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White, Minyard, Harrod, Holland, Lee, Davis, and other's> > > Thank you very much. You brought exciting news.> > I would be thrilled to hear anything about the Braxton's family line.> > I would like to see if I have correct what you have told me so far, It all fits> with the rest of my family.> > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's father was 7. James Braxton Jr.> James Braxton Jr's father was 8. James Braxton Sr.> James Braxton Sr's parent's were 9. Lacey Braxton and first wife Elizabeth Parker.> Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp, daughter of Arthur Tripp.> Lacey Braxton and second wife had a son Elias Braxton.> Lacey Braxton's parent's were 10. John Braxton m. Hannah unknown.> > From another posting I have the date for John Braxton abt. 1710 Scotland.> > John>






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                                    • Carol Singh
                                      Dear John, You are probably right about your Braxton lineage to James Braxton, Jr. Linda Eckerd, who has corresponded with you, or Kenny Braxton, who has a
                                      Message 18 of 29 , Nov 26, 2007
                                        Dear John,
                                        You are probably right about your Braxton lineage
                                        to James Braxton, Jr. Linda Eckerd, who has
                                        corresponded with you, or Kenny Braxton, who has a
                                        Braxton website, would be the most likely of our
                                        family to have early photos. Kenny has photos posted
                                        on his web. Linda has sent me some of hers. One that
                                        particularly stands out for me is that of Elias A.
                                        Braxton, my cousin who wrote from his home in Texas to
                                        the editor of the Greenville Daily Reflector in 1911
                                        [Pitt County Family Researchers' Genealogy Quarterly,
                                        Feb. 1995 I believe is the issue in which that letter
                                        with his family information in it is contained].
                                        I was so impressed that I copied that photo and
                                        showed it to my family. My younger brother could be
                                        his clone.
                                        Back to you shortly,
                                        Carol
                                        --- John Meyer <hookipajohn@...> wrote:

                                        >
                                        > I am researching so many parts of my family I forget
                                        > sometimes if I responded to this e-mail.
                                        >
                                        > 1. RICHARD R.1 ALLEN was born Abt. 1768 in North
                                        > Carolina, and died Bef. 25 May 1840 in Madison
                                        > County,
                                        > MS. He married (1) MARY BRAXTON Bef. 1786 in Dickson
                                        > County, TN (Originally Part Of NC). She was
                                        > born in NC, and died Bef. 1835 in Madison County,
                                        > MS. He married (2) JANE FOSTER 24 Aug 1835 in
                                        > Madison County, MS. She was born 1785, and died 11
                                        > Nov 1865 in Madison County, MS.
                                        >
                                        > As you can see my Allen and Braxton family merge in
                                        > Dickson County Tenn. I am assuming that this must be
                                        > the daughter of James Braxton Jr. I would love to
                                        > have a Braxton family group sheet to find my 5th
                                        > great grandmother and then to see her family.
                                        >
                                        > John
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.comFrom:
                                        > ljeckerd@...: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:03:31
                                        > +0000Subject: [genpcncfir] Re: Braxton family
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Hi John,I'm confused, are you descended from Lacey
                                        > Braxton? If so, he only had 3 sons by Elizabeth
                                        > Parker... Marion, Elbert and Elias (my
                                        > grgrgrandfather). Elias is the only one who lived to
                                        > have children. Lacey had 6 more children with 2nd
                                        > wife Lizzina Tripp; John M., Eliza, Mary, Patrick,
                                        > James and Friedonia. Lacey's family did move to
                                        > Tennessee. Elias's family mostly moved on to Texas.
                                        > Elias married Margaret J. Epps and had 8 children.
                                        > Let me know if I can help you with this line. Linda
                                        > E.--- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, John Meyer
                                        > <hookipajohn@...> wrote:>> Surnames, Allen, Braxton,
                                        > Johnston, White, Minyard, Harrod, Holland, Lee,
                                        > Davis, and other's> > > Thank you very much. You
                                        > brought exciting news.> > I would be thrilled to
                                        > hear anything about the Braxton's family line.> > I
                                        > would like to see if I have correct what you have
                                        > told me so far, It all fits> with the rest of my
                                        > family.> > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's
                                        > father was 7. James Braxton Jr.> James Braxton Jr's
                                        > father was 8. James Braxton Sr.> James Braxton Sr's
                                        > parent's were 9. Lacey Braxton and first wife
                                        > Elizabeth Parker.> Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp,
                                        > daughter of Arthur Tripp.> Lacey Braxton and second
                                        > wife had a son Elias Braxton.> Lacey Braxton's
                                        > parent's were 10. John Braxton m. Hannah unknown.> >
                                        > From another posting I have the date for John
                                        > Braxton abt. 1710 Scotland.> > John>
                                        >
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                                      • Carol Singh
                                        Dear Linda, From the State Library here in Richmond, I found land records for the property of Thomas Braxton, those showing his purchases of land and then
                                        Message 19 of 29 , Nov 26, 2007
                                          Dear Linda,
                                          From the State Library here in Richmond, I found
                                          land records for the property of Thomas Braxton, those
                                          showing his purchases of land and then purchases of
                                          others "adjoining the land of Thomas Braxton
                                          deceased."
                                          These I have hand-copied and are at home.
                                          I am nearly certain from family names passed down
                                          that John Braxton and Sarah were my direct line as
                                          well as John Braxton and Hannah if these two John
                                          Braxtons were father and son.
                                          If the relationship between these two men was not
                                          clear, then I'm still searching for this link.
                                          I have turned to land records first, thinking that
                                          in some transaction or other there will be occasion
                                          for the relationship to be revealed--a coming of age,
                                          a passing on of land in anticipation of death or other
                                          life stage event.
                                          The only reservation I have about Priscilla and
                                          Thomas is that "Thomas" never came down in my line but
                                          John and James did unto the present day and through
                                          each generation, which combined with "Hannah" being
                                          passed down would lead me to think that John was not
                                          used simply because of its being a name common among
                                          our English descendants.
                                          I think I also have a record of Priscilla's filing
                                          for something or other as heir to Thomas. I came upon
                                          it by pure chance and wish that I had thought to pass
                                          it along to the group but I did not. That, too, is
                                          among my papers at home, and I ran into it at the
                                          State Library here.
                                          I'll lay hands on it and make amends for my errant
                                          ways.
                                          I feel that everything I can add and document and
                                          pass onto to you will let you pin down these
                                          relationships among our early ancestors.
                                          I don't have that big picture because I have never
                                          organized my information that way. I've discovered it
                                          in library visits and public records piecemeal and am
                                          afraid that it is still in pieces on notecards, in
                                          notebooks, and even on napkins--the only piece of
                                          paper I had left to write on at the time--stuck in
                                          some cases like bookmarks between pages of Chronicles
                                          I or II and between pages in the Pitt County
                                          Genealogical Quarterlies where I was able to link
                                          these papers to information in these publications.
                                          Additionally, I am still looking desperately for
                                          that organizing principle to define the relationships
                                          among these early Braxtons.
                                          I'll get back to you with my Priscilla and Thomas
                                          information and sources before Thursday of this week.
                                          Thanks so much for helping me. You are an
                                          inspiration.
                                          Later, Carol

                                          --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:

                                          >
                                          > Hi Carol,
                                          >
                                          > I have Thomas and Priscilla Braxton with 4 children;
                                          > Phelix, Thomas,
                                          > Henerich and John b. abt 1770. This John married
                                          > Hannah and had 5
                                          > children: Charles; Council (m. Sarah Roundtree);
                                          > John (m. Sarah);
                                          > Molcey (m. Luke McGlohon); and Lacy m. 1. Elilzabeth
                                          > Parker, 2.
                                          > Lizzina Tripp.
                                          >
                                          > Now, Thomas may have been a son of John Braxton and
                                          > Mary (circa
                                          > 1730) and a sibling of John, James, William, Jesse
                                          > and Levi but this
                                          > is open to speculation. He was a neighbor of these
                                          > Braxton's but we
                                          > can't prove the relationship, he may have been John
                                          > Sr.'s brother,
                                          > nephew or other relationship. Cannot prove that
                                          > Thomas is the son of
                                          > this John. He lived next door to other sons and
                                          > relatives. There must
                                          > be some relationship. He did not inherit or buy
                                          > land from John but
                                          > did have land of his own. His children Phelix,
                                          > Thomas, Henerich and
                                          > John are listed in land sales from his estate.
                                          > Thomas was not in the
                                          > 1800 census but a Priscilla Blackston was with
                                          > children that would be
                                          > consistant with the 1790 census of Thomas Blackston,
                                          > she may or may
                                          > not be his widow. also spelled as Brackston.
                                          >
                                          > Thanks, I'm having a great Thanksgiving and all is
                                          > well here. Hope
                                          > you have a great holiday too. Good to hear from you
                                          > again.
                                          >
                                          > Linda
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                          > <csinghworthington@...> wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > > Dear Linda,
                                          > > John, Thomas, James Jr. & James Sr. all appear
                                          > on
                                          > > the sole census from the 1700's.
                                          > > How many sons of Thomas and Priscilla do you
                                          > have
                                          > > names for?
                                          > > Later, Carol
                                          > > --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > > > Hi John,
                                          > > >
                                          > > > I'm confused, are you descended from Lacey
                                          > Braxton?
                                          > > > If so, he only
                                          > > > had 3 sons by Elizabeth Parker... Marion, Elbert
                                          > and
                                          > > > Elias (my
                                          > > > grgrgrandfather). Elias is the only one who
                                          > lived
                                          > > > to have children.
                                          > > > Lacey had 6 more children with 2nd wife Lizzina
                                          > > > Tripp; John M.,
                                          > > > Eliza, Mary, Patrick, James and Friedonia.
                                          > Lacey's
                                          > > > family did move
                                          > > > to Tennessee. Elias's family mostly moved on to
                                          > > > Texas. Elias
                                          > > > married Margaret J. Epps and had 8 children.
                                          > Let me
                                          > > > know if I can
                                          > > > help you with this line. Linda E.
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, John Meyer
                                          > > > <hookipajohn@> wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White,
                                          > > > Minyard, Harrod,
                                          > > > Holland, Lee, Davis, and other's
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Thank you very much. You brought exciting
                                          > news.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > I would be thrilled to hear anything about the
                                          > > > Braxton's family
                                          > > > line.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > I would like to see if I have correct what you
                                          > > > have told me so far,
                                          > > > It all fits
                                          > > > > with the rest of my family.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's father
                                          > was
                                          > > > 7. James Braxton
                                          > > > Jr.
                                          > > > > James Braxton Jr's father was 8. James Braxton
                                          > Sr.
                                          > > > > James Braxton Sr's parent's were 9. Lacey
                                          > Braxton
                                          > > > and first wife
                                          > > > Elizabeth Parker.
                                          > > > > Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp, daughter of
                                          > > > Arthur Tripp.
                                          > > > > Lacey Braxton and second wife had a son Elias
                                          > > > Braxton.
                                          > > > > Lacey Braxton's parent's were 10. John Braxton
                                          > m.
                                          > > > Hannah unknown.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > From another posting I have the date for John
                                          > > > Braxton abt. 1710
                                          > > > Scotland.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > John
                                          > > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          >
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                                          One of the sons of Mary Braxton and Richard R. Allen was my 4th great grandfather William H. Allen.He was a Indian Agent for the Chickasaw Nation having
                                          Message 20 of 29 , Nov 26, 2007
                                            One of the sons of Mary Braxton and Richard R. Allen was my 4th great grandfather William H. Allen.He was a Indian Agent for the Chickasaw Nation having married a Chickasaw women.I thought you might enjoy this letter he signed in 1832. We assume that the other Allen signer is related as well but as yet have not been able to make a solid connection to us. William H. Allen's son was Major John Braxton Allen, Mississippi Guards. He married Elizabeth Harrod, granddaughter of Colonial James Harrod, founder of Harrods Station in Kentucky. Three of their son's participated in the Civil War. Daniel Allen was killed at Fort Donaldson, Amos was at the surrender at Appomattox and my 2nd great grandfather Wesley Allen was wounded at Shiloh and sent home. Wesley named one of his son's Braxton Allen. I am attaching a picture of the Wesley Dow Allen family. My great grandmother is sitting next to her father. She died when I was 4. I remember her. She is why I started this whole genealogy thing. Also the photo of Braxton Allen, there son's grave. John
                                            CHICKASAW LETTERS - 1832

                                            Affidavit of Several Chickasaws, 22 OCT 1832: [M-234 Roll #136]

                                            Holechy, Chickasaw Nation

                                            Oct. 22. 1832
                                            We the undersigned, Do hereby Certify and acknowledge, That the true and just line between the Choctaw & Chickasaw Nations begins at the Mouth of Oka-tithe-hah and runs up it until it gets to the mouth of Noo-sah-chi-yah, then up that creek to a large round swamp, where Noo-sah-chi-yah makes a considerable bend towards the Chickasaws at that point it takes out, on the South side near a large pond, keeping a direct course to a grove of large Pines on the ridge about one mile beyond Wall's old stand on the Natchez Road. Thence a westward course to a point on the Mississippi River, well known by the name 'Tunica Village'.

                                            In witness we hereunto set our hands and seals --

                                            Huch-to-hun-tubbe his X mark

                                            Harn-you-tubbe his X mark

                                            Tisk-kah-hun-um-pa-la his X mark

                                            Pah-shiah-now-wah-nah his X mark

                                            Flah-ha-pay-tea his X mark

                                            Sho-mount-a his X mark

                                            Sack-it-tubbe his X mark

                                            Im-mah-la-cha his X mark

                                            Tam-by his X mark
                                            Witness
                                            Tom chico
                                            Martin Colbert


                                            Levi Colbert to President Andrew Jackson, 22 NOV 1832:

                                            [M-234, Roll #136, Start Frame #0276]Chickasaw Nation Nov. 22d 1832
                                            To the President of the United States
                                            My great and beloved Father
                                            As the head of my Nation, my heart tells me it is right that I place truth before you and if you have looked me in the face and dealt with my heart often and long enough, to credit my woods, you shall have truth in its nakedness. I had not lived and cast my senses, as you know, along the whitemans march, with my eyes shut, man proves the hand of God can no more change principles fixed in him, than he can change his skin, so it is, with the Indian, and his native land, when he hears of a departure from it, his heart like the stricken deer, reels and falls, but he may not die. I saw the whitemans march was to take my country. I prepared my mind and the mind of my Nation for it.
                                            I received Genl. Coffees message announcing the treaty on the 15th of September, the annuity come out at the same time. In one or two days Colo. Terrell visited my tent, with a talk which I guessed (never knowing) was Genl. Coffees, to induce from me a distinct proposition to sell our country. This Conference closed and I asked Colo. Terrel to say that my Nation had no proposition to make, if any was made, it must come from Genl. Coffee. This gentleman in general Council on the 24th handed to me the written bassis of his treaty. Marked A and herewith sent. My Nation from day to day until the 29th consulted on this basis. On that day, handed to the Genl., the Coppy of a paper marked B consenting to consider the treaty, which was forthwith presented and with which my Nation was not satidfied because the Forth Article provided that the lands to be reserved for the residence of my people until their removal, should be sold by the government, which is not within the basis, and the the chiefs universaly desired, under proper regulations, to retain that right themselves, and we were with one voice opposed to any part of the proceeds of these lands, being vested with the United States at all, which investments as per treaty, is not within, but out of the basis. See article four.
                                            We wanted this money in our own power, to pay the debts of my Nation, which must be done before we go. To meet expenses in the search and payments for a country west. To remove my Nation to it and to feed and sustain my people in their new homes untill they can again build houses clear farms and and get stock about them. There was in this treaty no guard against Speculation. The selection of reservations, and the valuation of improvements, I believe belonged to our National Council, and not to the President, because exclusively, this is my Nations interest and business, the national funds pays for it, and the solid interests of my Nation verry much depends on it.
                                            This fourth article pays to my Nation all the net proceeds of these reserved lands, but the thenth, takes, without condition, three fourths of it and fixes it with the United States, to my Nation this was disagreeable, as well also was the establishment of two land offices with two extra clerks, with one register and receiver, we were content. During the advisement of my Nation previous to the presentation of my note in reply to the Genl's basis. The greate body of this Nation had in repeated and solemn councils, positively determined, that not one reservation in the whole country should be allowed, except Colberts Island.
                                            This determined fact Genl Coffee had from my mouth and Pitman Colbert's repeatedly, but he would not agree to it, and we all think, to give or not give reservations was our own Native question, after he sent for the Commissioners to his quarters, and told us, If we did not allow reservations our greate Fatehr the President would not like it, and he distrubed with us and would think it verry strange that we denied ourselves reservations. We told him that God gave the country to all the Nation, no one had better right than an other. The half breeds got a wide field, they got moreInteligents than the Indians, and the treaty let them choose where they will, they would take a great deal of the verry best land and leave the poor.
                                            We had a country to find we knowed not where to buy it. If we had to buy of the Mexicans, a large sum of money must be ready, we had to move to this home pay our debts and live when we got there, let us do all these things of first necessity, then vest the balance with the government and draw on the interest. Genl. Coffee say No, on this question you must sleep one night more, he would get the Indians, the half breeds, and white men with Indian families together next day at the Council house, among us. He will help settle this matter. I tell Genl. Coffee, it is not worth while to sleep on a question so well considered and finally determined. He replied, we must all meet him tomorrow and so we did. The Genl. and the half breeds made several talks, at last the Genl. asked me if my mind was fixed not to allow reservations. I told him the great body of My Nation was against reservations and my mind was with them. He asked me what was my mind about the Franklin Treaty, if it was proper to receive any part of it. I asked him if that treaty lived. He said the government had failed to fulfil its part, it was bad, but as the Chickasaws were always ready and willing to fullfil all their contracts, it might be proper to receive some part of it. I told him it was useless to talk about the dead. He said well, he would write out another treaty, such as he thought right if we signed it -- well if not, he would fo home. So we parted as we met except a little more heat.
                                            In a day or two, he presented his treaty marked D, the very Same as before, on to the fourth article, which ruined a part of the treaty of Franklin, allowing and giving to Indians, half breeds, and Some white men not of Chickasaw families, 39,860 acres of choice land in fee simple, among them was several Chickasaw Commissioners, there with the Genl in treaty, and by the 12th article, gave to four others, 5,120 acres of choice land in fee simple to keep or to sell, in the same article near one hundred sections are given to half breeds and white men with Indian familys. The very persons against whom the Chiefs had been so long contending. To this treaty, all of us delivered our objectios, the Genl. again insisted that the full and half breeds should again meet in council. The Genl., Levi Colbert nor Pittman Colbert were not to be present. The parties meet, the half breeds after these talks, asked the chiefs, one by one if they would allow them reservations, one by one the old chiefs answered No, and turn'd to the warriors and asked them if they would defend them in this Opinion, the warriors replied they would. So they parted as they met.
                                            The concluding article of this treaty gave to me Levi Colbert, ten sections, make in all fifteen sections and a half. I received this news from Genl. Coffee, by Col. Terrell in my tent, before this treaty was public. The messenger explained to me with great clearness & force, the immense value and importance of 9,920 acres of well selected first rate land, which might be got in the verry bosom of stream navigation. for the happiness of my Nation, I had struck my course, my stand was taken and Genl. Coffee knew it. When Col. Terrell finished, I said to him, When Genl. Coffee attempts to buy my honesty, he must have a pile of money high as my head, then I will keep my honesty still, and the money must come from the United States Treasury and not from my Nations pocket to put mine, and then my honesty shall stay with me still.
                                            I cant tell what makes Genl. Coffee love reservations, so hard and so long. Three times he has been told no reservations can be allowed, most three weeks have gone away since he hang on this question and got so much heat in our Camps with the half breeds, I will tell him today if he does not quit these reservations, I will quit the treaty.
                                            The Genl. wrote another treaty, left out one land office and made some unimportant amendments, but still it seemed to us, the half breeds on reserves, from peculiar words in the treaty, might remain on them a long time or give verry long leases, in spite of the Nations actual removal. So the Genl. by the Chickasaw commissioners various amendments in respectful briefs were porposed all of which, is herewith sent, and almost all, was rejected.
                                            An Other Objection is 15/20 of my people are totally incapable of selecting any land of worth, men of sense and honesty, we think Ought to do this. My Nation also objects to the government selling these reservations. To the President appointing the person to value them or the agent to pay for them and it is objected also, that both the surveyor general and land office, as to their duration is without limit. The investment of any part of the proceeds of the reserved lands, was and now is objected to. On the examination my proposed amendments, to that treaty and of the traty signed since and herewith sent, it will be seen whether the wishes of my Nation, were or all right or wrong. I think the Chickasaw Commissioners with other Chiefs and Warriors, kept this treaty two or three days at my quarters, we could not, nor did we ever understand or approve it.
                                            My People were worn out, they Could not get their annuity till the treaty was done, for the last week we were verry badly fed and most of them gone home. But the Genl. requested what Chickasaws were on the ground attend, a little before night, my health was verry bad, at candle light Genl. Coffee called on the Chiefs to sign the treaty. This he done repeatedly. They hesitated and said there was something in it they did not understand and requested to postpone untill tomorrow, at which the Genl. got angry and accused the chiefs with ignorance, duplicity, and meaness, charged them with trifling with his official character as well as with his private feelings. He told them if they would not sign the paper then he would leave them and got up off his seat and went off as tho he was gone. Absent a few minutes and returned and commenced his villifying the chiefs again, and told them they must sign the paper then or he would never return, to try to make a treaty with them again. They might remain, suffer and die under the state laws for what he cared. After long contunued abuse and menace from Genl .Coffee, the Chiefs signed the paper or treaty.
                                            The second paper signed on next day, was presented to the chiefs by Mr. Secretary Anderson in presence of Genl. Coffee. It was not read. The Chiefs were told, that the paper had been read by Levi Colbert and others or read and explained to him and was well understood. Therefore it was unnecessary to read it and interpret it to them. Levi Colbert was at that time absent and sick in his tent on these representations, the chiefs present, signed the paper without knowing what was in it, nor do they yet know its contents.
                                            On the third day the supplement was presented, read, and Genl. Coffee told the Indians that -- that paper was to cure all those defects in the first papers as he had promised them. Levi Colbert was still absent and sick.
                                            About the time Genl. Coffee presented us with his treaty about government selling our lands and puting so much money in stock, my Nation did not know what to do, we were disposed to trust, but we did not know how to do it. To our help, we invited Capt Cook, Wm. Cooper attorney at law, Col. Terrell and our Subagent Major Allen. I had known these men long and they all had the confidence of my Nation &c. I thought had the confidence of Genl. Coffee. These gentlemen explained plainly, the nature of government land sales and bank stock, so that in less than two days we got along under good way, soon to finish the treaty, when this distracting reservation question came up. They viewing the matter purely, purely Chickasaw, left us, untill we would settle it.
                                            The half breeds supported Genl. Coffee and the Genl supported them. The alarm was common that the Genl. would never treat without reservations. If the Chiefs would not allow them, it was strongly impressed on us, that he would treat with the half breeds themselves. I said if he will he must, they have no power. When the half breeds and the Genl. can't get reserves. He semed to get mad and desperate, he desired my white friends to leave my quarters, leave the Chiefs to him, our friends done so, and my Nation was left helpless and friendless. This action of Genl. Coffee, my nation took very hard and very unkind. He was a man of experience and education, we were nude from the hand of nature. He had his secretaries and other enlightened friends around him, we were deprived of the few friends on which we could rely.
                                            He wished of my Nation a treaty, new to us in all its relations. We knew not how to get along with it, our friends laboured us sincerely to promote a treaty, and a treaty strickly within Genl. Coffee's basis, as himself. Genl. Coffee did, and I told him if he would let them half breeds and two or three whitement who were troubling his ears alone, in four days we could finish a good treaty.
                                            My Father, I beg you to listen, I know Genl. Coffee stands near your heart, and I am among the last men who would do or say any thing to wound your feelings, but facts in this matter, your generosity will forgive. In the Franklin treaty, reservations were given to Major Allen, Col. Reynolds, McClish and Magee, with others, and to myself, five sections and a half. The renewal of any part of this treaty, and the allowance of reserves at the treaty of Pontetoc, the Genl. well knew at an early day, would not be agreed to. He pressed these matters on us, so hard & so long, and so rough, this was the foundation, and final loss of all confidence on both sides. I told hiom, the Nation had given strong helps to enlighten our half breeds, we wanted their help in our councils, we had paid many thousands of dollars of their debts to save them from the white laws, nothing paid back. They are the first of our nation to turn against whatthe steady old chiefs believe, the most solid good for this nation. They seem to calculate for there own pockets forgetful of their country. I told him my Nation was soon to be left alone to search a new and fair of home all the troubles, expenses and evils of it, were on our own backs.
                                            No help but the price of our country. It was my intention to vest largely, through the President in bank stock, let the old corn stand and my generations feed on the new, year by year, but I wanted a good country first. I wished he would shut his ears to this half people and let us make a treaty all satisfied old friends. I proposed to the general many amendments to his treaty, Such as my heart tells me, was just for the government and my Nation. He denies my words. I tell him, my words are the wishes and words of my Nation, (which he has long known very plain), he says my Nation got no sense. I tell him, if my people make a bad bargan it will be our loss, not the governments. he says he knows best for us and would do it. So I know all confidence and good feeling is gone.
                                            This makes the treaty last five weeks, a few of my people signed those papers influenced by the impetus of the moment, and at that moment, hoping for that redress from our Father the President which we think the State of the Genl's feelings denied us, in treaty, for in addition to my former observations, at the signing of the treaty When the Genl got up and went off he said as he had repeatedly said before, that if we did not sign the treaty then, that he was authorized by the President to say that -- that was the last time, he would ever send a commissioner to us, and if we did not sign them, he would directly leave ud for ever, to the severitys of the state laws.
                                            We thought this gentleman was the friend of the President and brought to us his heart, that he was the officer of a great government, Mad with my Nation and my Nation weak, we looked for all the furiy on us. So we sign the paper.
                                            When my Father used to treat with us he gave to us, a copy of what was done. I sent Pitman Colbert and my son to the Genl the evening before hr started from the treaty ground, requesting copies of all which had been done. Very harshly -- he denied my messengers, the next day he sent to me the letter marked K, but I should very much like to know, what was in that dumb paper because that paper gives me much uneasiness, as does the suppliment, for I never saw either.
                                            In relation to the salt lick and lands on the river Sandy in Tennessee, I ask leave to say a few words. I was down sick in my tent, Genl. Coffee came to me and said you have now sold your Country. Nothing have been done with the salt lick and the land on Sandy rever in Tennessee. I say to Genl Coffee I am too sick to talk about it. Your honour and your Justice for it do what is right. I was unable to do any thing. Well he went off, and I hear from all hands, white and red, that he put in the suppliment, in this way, he ceeds these 16 Sections to the government at one Dollar and twenty five cents the acre and binds the government to pay Mr. Currin one dollar for every acre and the Chickasaws one -- twenty five cents for every acre. I can't see the reason of or the Justice of this way. Robert P. Currin has paid us but five hundred dollars, the treaty of Franklin is dead, this is all we can get. Why that gentle man should receive ten thousand two hundred and forty dollars seems to my Nation very strong indeed.
                                            My Father -- I beg the President and the Senate to consider of the losses, expenses and difficulties, My Nation must meet in removing to the west, this question [k]nows from its nature can't be counters, but to a whole Nation is appalling. The Chickasaw feel a native born attachment for their Country and it seems to me true, that nature presents nothing in the west, which can make the Chickasaws more happy there -- than here, their Native and beloved land. It is true that my Nation become willing to sell their Country, to put down that bitter question of State Sovereignty, to keep peace in the white family, to preserve the Union of the United States whose friendship and protection we want, and our selves, to get away from the troubles which our white brothers fixed upon us. It is the result of our weakness and we surrender our Country to cure the evils we never created. The whole question considered, to us it seems right that the United States pay the Chickasaws one hundred thousand dollars as asked for in thier treaty. We hope the our father the President and Senate will think with us and afford their powerful aid, this will help soften the Chickasaw hearts. Convince them of the liberality and Justice of the United States, and promote the brother hood of the white and red men in the west.
                                            My great and beloved father, the whole Chickasaw Nation, by my heart and my mouth, in this last attempted bargain, for their last foot of land within the United States, beg leave to speak as they feel. My whole Nation is deeply distatisfied with Genl. Coffees treaty, for remedy, we do not Cast our selves into the arms your Enemys, but like true and faithful children, we come first to you and bring our complaints to our fathers wisdom and justice, we ask of him to except of our treaty of this date, with which my whole Nation will be satisfied and strong friends as they always have been.
                                            My father, at the treaty at Pontetoc, we were shorn of our friends, of our lands and of the government we always love'd, our country, lov'd for ages, by one treaty of the other, is gone. Soon to blaze with the white mans fires and my Nation again must kindle a feeble light in the wilds where the ax nor the hoe has never been heard, but my father will do us justice now and let us part in peace, so that I may have truth in my mouth and may say to my people in the west, altho it was necessary for the happiness of the United States to have our old Country, yet General Jackson and the Senate, has been honest, Just and liberal.
                                            I want my father, to keep down the tomhawk in the Chickasaw hands for ever. Will my father listen. My Chiefs and warriors heard the Presidents talks which he made to us at Franklin in the house of God. Remember my Father, the true and living fire, which caught in your breast, flowed in your eyes, and imparted a heavenly flame into all our bosoms, -- can my Nation now, in the midst of its difficulties, look to this President and the Constitution which rules him, for a protecting guardian. Can the injured in their weakness, find in this man a never failing friend. A broad field my father is presented, it is the cause of justice, humanity and weakness. It is not the voice of restive man which ought to a wake the sensibilities of the President and Senate, but the cry of a Naked Nation contending with one man for their National rights, will arise those authorities to defend the powerless, and show to the world, that -- that spirit of liberity and equality, which distinquishes the United States from all the Empires in the world, is not as many might imagine, a jealously and defense of their own particular rights, an unwillingness to be oppressed themselves but a high respect for the rights of Others, -- an unwillingness, that any man high or low should be wronged.
                                            This is the living shasow of the great spirit. The inside dress which the Almighty Cherishes, and gives to true greatness, all its action and all its immortality, these in the American character tells to the world that -- that liberity, which God gave and Washington left, has no security any further than this uprightness and just benevolence acts on and governs community.




                                            Truly your old and constant friend





                                            Levi [his X mark] Colbert Principal chief of the Chickasaws




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                                            Capt. Wm. McGilvery his X mark
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                                            James Brown his X mark

                                            Levi Colbert his X mark
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                                            Isaac Alberson his X mark
                                            James Wolf his X mark

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                                            Tam she cah his X mark
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                                            Cun mush cash ker his X mark
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                                            James Glover his X mark


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                                            Er far mer his X mark


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                                            Cha ke war tub ba his X mark


                                            Chick cub ba his X mark


                                            Signed in the presence of the following persons
                                            Dougherty Colbert Secty for the Chickasaws
                                            John L Allen
                                            John A Bynum
                                            Wm. H. Allen of Miss
                                            Jno. D Terrell of Alabama
                                            Alexander Colbert


                                            Chickasaw Exploring Party of 1831 & 31, ?? 1832:
                                            [M-234 Roll #136]

                                            Statement Showing the number of Chickasaws composing the Exploring party in 1830 & 31.





                                            No of Days
                                            Amount




                                            and pay
                                            Paid
                                            Amount
                                            Whole

                                            Name
                                            Per day
                                            them
                                            Unpaid
                                            Amount

                                            1. Levi Colbert
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            128.80
                                            147.20
                                            268.00

                                            2. Ei-o-che-tubbe
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            179.30
                                            88.70
                                            268.00

                                            3. In-mah-hoo-la-tubbe
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            85.07
                                            182.93
                                            268.00

                                            4. Thomas Sely
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            197.66
                                            70.34
                                            268.00

                                            5. Ish-ta-hi-ya-ha-tubbe
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            76.24
                                            191.76
                                            268.00

                                            6. Ah-to-ko-mah
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            68.28
                                            198.72
                                            268.00

                                            7. Pitman Colbert
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            102.32
                                            165.68
                                            268.00

                                            8. Newberry
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            116.87
                                            151.13
                                            268.00

                                            9. James Brown
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            65.45
                                            202.55
                                            268.00

                                            10. Oh-hu-cubbe
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            73.61
                                            194.39
                                            268.00

                                            11. Ish-ket-ta-ka
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            75.70
                                            192.30
                                            268.00

                                            12. Oke-lab-ha-cubbe
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            91.37
                                            176.63
                                            268.00

                                            13. Elap-link-bab-tubbe
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            99.57
                                            168.43
                                            268.00

                                            14. Shu-ma-cha-be
                                            134 @ 2.00
                                            73.70
                                            194.30
                                            268.00

                                            15. Kin-hoi-cha
                                            22 @ 2.00
                                            47.81

                                            44.00

                                            16. Henry Love
                                            52 @ 2.00
                                            2.50
                                            101.50
                                            104.00


                                            1950 @ 2.00
                                            1,477.25
                                            2,426.56
                                            3,900.00

                                            deduct over payment to No. 15.

                                            3.81





                                            1,273.44




                                            To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.comCC: CSinghWorthington@...: csinghworthington@...: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:02:23 -0800Subject: RE: [genpcncfir] Re: Braxton family



                                            Dear John,You are probably right about your Braxton lineageto James Braxton, Jr. Linda Eckerd, who hascorresponded with you, or Kenny Braxton, who has aBraxton website, would be the most likely of ourfamily to have early photos. Kenny has photos postedon his web. Linda has sent me some of hers. One thatparticularly stands out for me is that of Elias A.Braxton, my cousin who wrote from his home in Texas tothe editor of the Greenville Daily Reflector in 1911[Pitt County Family Researchers' Genealogy Quarterly,Feb. 1995 I believe is the issue in which that letterwith his family information in it is contained]. I was so impressed that I copied that photo andshowed it to my family. My younger brother could behis clone.Back to you shortly,Carol--- John Meyer <hookipajohn@...> wrote:> > I am researching so many parts of my family I forget> sometimes if I responded to this e-mail. > > 1. RICHARD R.1 ALLEN was born Abt. 1768 in North> Carolina, and died Bef. 25 May 1840 in Madison> County,> MS. He married (1) MARY BRAXTON Bef. 1786 in Dickson> County, TN (Originally Part Of NC). She was> born in NC, and died Bef. 1835 in Madison County,> MS. He married (2) JANE FOSTER 24 Aug 1835 in> Madison County, MS. She was born 1785, and died 11> Nov 1865 in Madison County, MS.> > As you can see my Allen and Braxton family merge in> Dickson County Tenn. I am assuming that this must be> the daughter of James Braxton Jr. I would love to> have a Braxton family group sheet to find my 5th> great grandmother and then to see her family.> > John> > > To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.comFrom:> ljeckerd@...: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:03:31> +0000Subject: [genpcncfir] Re: Braxton family> > > > > Hi John,I'm confused, are you descended from Lacey> Braxton? If so, he only had 3 sons by Elizabeth> Parker... Marion, Elbert and Elias (my> grgrgrandfather). Elias is the only one who lived to> have children. Lacey had 6 more children with 2nd> wife Lizzina Tripp; John M., Eliza, Mary, Patrick,> James and Friedonia. Lacey's family did move to> Tennessee. Elias's family mostly moved on to Texas.> Elias married Margaret J. Epps and had 8 children.> Let me know if I can help you with this line. Linda> E.--- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, John Meyer> <hookipajohn@...> wrote:>> Surnames, Allen, Braxton,> Johnston, White, Minyard, Harrod, Holland, Lee,> Davis, and other's> > > Thank you very much. You> brought exciting news.> > I would be thrilled to> hear anything about the Braxton's family line.> > I> would like to see if I have correct what you have> told me so far, It all fits> with the rest of my> family.> > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's> father was 7. James Braxton Jr.> James Braxton Jr's> father was 8. James Braxton Sr.> James Braxton Sr's> parent's were 9. Lacey Braxton and first wife> Elizabeth Parker.> Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp,> daughter of Arthur Tripp.> Lacey Braxton and second> wife had a son Elias Braxton.> Lacey Braxton's> parent's were 10. John Braxton m. Hannah unknown.> >> From another posting I have the date for John> Braxton abt. 1710 Scotland.> > John> > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________> You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger> and join the i�m Initiative now.> http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM> > [Non-text portions of this message have been> removed]> > > > Pitt County Historical Society: > http://www.pittcountyhistoricalsociety.com/ > > CHRONICLES VOL.II AVAILABLE!! Click here for> description and ordering information:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genpcncfir/files/> > Click here to view CHRONICLE PHOTO, use SlideShow:> http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/genpcncfir/lst > > RePrint of 1982 Chronicles of Pitt Co Order Form: > >http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nc/county/pitt/Chronicles%20Flyer%20Feb03.htm> > Treasure-Trove of PITT Co.NC Genealogical Resources:> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nc/county/pitt/> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr/> > We welcome all Archives visitors and invite you to> join our dynamic group if you are interested in> genealogy discussion and research in Pitt and all> Eastern and Coastal North Carolina counties.> GenealogyPITT Co NC Friends In Research> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genpcncfir > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > > > > __________________________________________________________Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs






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                                          • Linda E
                                            Hi Carol and John, Interesting post John. I haven t done much research in the last year or so and if I remember right Carol, that you are descended from
                                            Message 21 of 29 , Nov 26, 2007
                                              Hi Carol and John,

                                              Interesting post John. I haven't done much research in the last year
                                              or so and if I remember right Carol, that you are descended from
                                              Lacey's brother John Braxton and Sarah. I'm not sure which line John
                                              (Meyer's) line is though. I'm sure it isn't through Lacey though and
                                              I don't have the brother's lines in my data base. His best bet is to
                                              go to Kenny Braxton's web site or to ancestry.com or rootsweb and
                                              find which line he links up with. I'm sure that Lacey is the son of
                                              John and Hannah, and John is the son of Thomas. But from there on
                                              up, proof is needed to see if Thomas is the son of John and Mary or
                                              what that relationship is but sure there is a relationship... and if
                                              Priscilla was in fact his wife. (Thomas did have a son named Thomas
                                              with presumably Priscilla) Haven't a clue what happened to him or
                                              Henerick for that matter. Think there is some research on Phelix.

                                              I would love to see your copies of the land records for Thomas. And
                                              the notes you have on Priscilla and Thomas, the name Thomas wasn't
                                              used much in any lines I don't think. However there was a William in
                                              Chatham Co. N.C. who had a son Thomas about the same time frame.

                                              Somewhere in my original research notes I did find census reports and
                                              or deeds with the names of John and Hannah's children and he did have
                                              a son John and think you and I concluded that it is your John. When
                                              I get time I'll look through my notes and see what "proof" I had.

                                              Linda


                                              --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                              <csinghworthington@...> wrote:
                                              >
                                              > Dear Linda,
                                              > From the State Library here in Richmond, I found
                                              > land records for the property of Thomas Braxton, those
                                              > showing his purchases of land and then purchases of
                                              > others "adjoining the land of Thomas Braxton
                                              > deceased."
                                              > These I have hand-copied and are at home.
                                              > I am nearly certain from family names passed down
                                              > that John Braxton and Sarah were my direct line as
                                              > well as John Braxton and Hannah if these two John
                                              > Braxtons were father and son.
                                              > If the relationship between these two men was not
                                              > clear, then I'm still searching for this link.
                                              > I have turned to land records first, thinking that
                                              > in some transaction or other there will be occasion
                                              > for the relationship to be revealed--a coming of age,
                                              > a passing on of land in anticipation of death or other
                                              > life stage event.
                                              > The only reservation I have about Priscilla and
                                              > Thomas is that "Thomas" never came down in my line but
                                              > John and James did unto the present day and through
                                              > each generation, which combined with "Hannah" being
                                              > passed down would lead me to think that John was not
                                              > used simply because of its being a name common among
                                              > our English descendants.
                                              > I think I also have a record of Priscilla's filing
                                              > for something or other as heir to Thomas. I came upon
                                              > it by pure chance and wish that I had thought to pass
                                              > it along to the group but I did not. That, too, is
                                              > among my papers at home, and I ran into it at the
                                              > State Library here.
                                              > I'll lay hands on it and make amends for my errant
                                              > ways.
                                              > I feel that everything I can add and document and
                                              > pass onto to you will let you pin down these
                                              > relationships among our early ancestors.
                                              > I don't have that big picture because I have never
                                              > organized my information that way. I've discovered it
                                              > in library visits and public records piecemeal and am
                                              > afraid that it is still in pieces on notecards, in
                                              > notebooks, and even on napkins--the only piece of
                                              > paper I had left to write on at the time--stuck in
                                              > some cases like bookmarks between pages of Chronicles
                                              > I or II and between pages in the Pitt County
                                              > Genealogical Quarterlies where I was able to link
                                              > these papers to information in these publications.
                                              > Additionally, I am still looking desperately for
                                              > that organizing principle to define the relationships
                                              > among these early Braxtons.
                                              > I'll get back to you with my Priscilla and Thomas
                                              > information and sources before Thursday of this week.
                                              > Thanks so much for helping me. You are an
                                              > inspiration.
                                              > Later, Carol
                                              >
                                              > --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:
                                              >
                                              > >
                                              > > Hi Carol,
                                              > >
                                              > > I have Thomas and Priscilla Braxton with 4 children;
                                              > > Phelix, Thomas,
                                              > > Henerich and John b. abt 1770. This John married
                                              > > Hannah and had 5
                                              > > children: Charles; Council (m. Sarah Roundtree);
                                              > > John (m. Sarah);
                                              > > Molcey (m. Luke McGlohon); and Lacy m. 1. Elilzabeth
                                              > > Parker, 2.
                                              > > Lizzina Tripp.
                                              > >
                                              > > Now, Thomas may have been a son of John Braxton and
                                              > > Mary (circa
                                              > > 1730) and a sibling of John, James, William, Jesse
                                              > > and Levi but this
                                              > > is open to speculation. He was a neighbor of these
                                              > > Braxton's but we
                                              > > can't prove the relationship, he may have been John
                                              > > Sr.'s brother,
                                              > > nephew or other relationship. Cannot prove that
                                              > > Thomas is the son of
                                              > > this John. He lived next door to other sons and
                                              > > relatives. There must
                                              > > be some relationship. He did not inherit or buy
                                              > > land from John but
                                              > > did have land of his own. His children Phelix,
                                              > > Thomas, Henerich and
                                              > > John are listed in land sales from his estate.
                                              > > Thomas was not in the
                                              > > 1800 census but a Priscilla Blackston was with
                                              > > children that would be
                                              > > consistant with the 1790 census of Thomas Blackston,
                                              > > she may or may
                                              > > not be his widow. also spelled as Brackston.
                                              > >
                                              > > Thanks, I'm having a great Thanksgiving and all is
                                              > > well here. Hope
                                              > > you have a great holiday too. Good to hear from you
                                              > > again.
                                              > >
                                              > > Linda
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                              > > <csinghworthington@> wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Dear Linda,
                                              > > > John, Thomas, James Jr. & James Sr. all appear
                                              > > on
                                              > > > the sole census from the 1700's.
                                              > > > How many sons of Thomas and Priscilla do you
                                              > > have
                                              > > > names for?
                                              > > > Later, Carol
                                              > > > --- Linda E <ljeckerd@> wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > > Hi John,
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > I'm confused, are you descended from Lacey
                                              > > Braxton?
                                              > > > > If so, he only
                                              > > > > had 3 sons by Elizabeth Parker... Marion, Elbert
                                              > > and
                                              > > > > Elias (my
                                              > > > > grgrgrandfather). Elias is the only one who
                                              > > lived
                                              > > > > to have children.
                                              > > > > Lacey had 6 more children with 2nd wife Lizzina
                                              > > > > Tripp; John M.,
                                              > > > > Eliza, Mary, Patrick, James and Friedonia.
                                              > > Lacey's
                                              > > > > family did move
                                              > > > > to Tennessee. Elias's family mostly moved on to
                                              > > > > Texas. Elias
                                              > > > > married Margaret J. Epps and had 8 children.
                                              > > Let me
                                              > > > > know if I can
                                              > > > > help you with this line. Linda E.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, John Meyer
                                              > > > > <hookipajohn@> wrote:
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > > > Surnames, Allen, Braxton, Johnston, White,
                                              > > > > Minyard, Harrod,
                                              > > > > Holland, Lee, Davis, and other's
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > > > Thank you very much. You brought exciting
                                              > > news.
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > > > I would be thrilled to hear anything about the
                                              > > > > Braxton's family
                                              > > > > line.
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > > > I would like to see if I have correct what you
                                              > > > > have told me so far,
                                              > > > > It all fits
                                              > > > > > with the rest of my family.
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > > > My 6th great grandmother Mary Braxton's father
                                              > > was
                                              > > > > 7. James Braxton
                                              > > > > Jr.
                                              > > > > > James Braxton Jr's father was 8. James Braxton
                                              > > Sr.
                                              > > > > > James Braxton Sr's parent's were 9. Lacey
                                              > > Braxton
                                              > > > > and first wife
                                              > > > > Elizabeth Parker.
                                              > > > > > Lacey Braxton m. 2. Lizina Tripp, daughter of
                                              > > > > Arthur Tripp.
                                              > > > > > Lacey Braxton and second wife had a son Elias
                                              > > > > Braxton.
                                              > > > > > Lacey Braxton's parent's were 10. John Braxton
                                              > > m.
                                              > > > > Hannah unknown.
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > > > From another posting I have the date for John
                                              > > > > Braxton abt. 1710
                                              > > > > Scotland.
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > > > John
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > >
                                              >
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                                              >
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                                            • Carol Singh
                                              Dear Linda, Thanks. Yes, I descend from John Braxton and Sarah. One reason for our not having seen the name Thomas passed down in the Pitt County families
                                              Message 22 of 29 , Nov 27, 2007
                                                Dear Linda,
                                                Thanks. Yes, I descend from John Braxton and Sarah.
                                                One reason for our not having seen the name Thomas
                                                passed down in the Pitt County families might be also
                                                that like Lacey, sons moved in order to purchase
                                                farmland to support their wives and children. I have
                                                seen case after case of this being mentioned in family
                                                correspondence and legal documents.
                                                If I remember correctly also, Priscilla was
                                                Priscilla Avery. Widowed with six children to provide
                                                for, she had left Wayne County where they had moved to
                                                establish their home and returned to Pitt.
                                                Having no ties to Wayne except for her husband,
                                                she wanted to live out her life near her family.
                                                Although she had sought no assistance, from what I
                                                gathered, her father took on the role of provider for
                                                her and the children.
                                                I also read that the Avery name had at this time
                                                two spellings. The change was made, not for show but
                                                for distinction. It seems that there were so many of
                                                this name that the family was concerned about
                                                confusion as to who was who. Among themselves, they
                                                had agreed to a spelling change for some of the
                                                families--interesting eh what?
                                                I had never heard of nor read of anyone's having
                                                changed the spelling of the surname for this reason.
                                                With so many variant spellings in our families, this
                                                piece of information really caught my attention.
                                                Just in case I have misrecalled my notes, will
                                                you check Wayne County for Thomas and Priscilla?
                                                The State Library here in Richmond is closed on
                                                Mondays. That's why I didn't run down there and go
                                                directly to my source.
                                                Tomorrow I have a block of time free and can do
                                                it myself if I can't easily lay hands on my
                                                notes--even though I do keep all my publications and
                                                notesbooks in one room. It would be a matter of what
                                                pages in which one, and that I don't know offhand not
                                                having in my mind which Braxtons were mentioned in
                                                which Pitt County Family Researchers' Quarterly or in
                                                which Chronicles.
                                                Thanks for your Braxton information relative to
                                                John's family. It may be there's a tie-in but not
                                                through Lacey.
                                                I recall that in his letter to the Daily
                                                Reflector from 1911 Elias A. Braxton had stated that
                                                he thought there were other brothers and sisters whose
                                                names he might not have remembered or even known, his
                                                having been so young when the family moved to
                                                Tennessee.
                                                Good to hear from you as always, Carol

                                                --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:

                                                > Hi Carol and John,
                                                >
                                                > Interesting post John. I haven't done much research
                                                > in the last year
                                                > or so and if I remember right Carol, that you are
                                                > descended from
                                                > Lacey's brother John Braxton and Sarah. I'm not
                                                > sure which line John
                                                > (Meyer's) line is though. I'm sure it isn't through
                                                > Lacey though and
                                                > I don't have the brother's lines in my data base.
                                                > His best bet is to
                                                > go to Kenny Braxton's web site or to ancestry.com or
                                                > rootsweb and
                                                > find which line he links up with. I'm sure that
                                                > Lacey is the son of
                                                > John and Hannah, and John is the son of Thomas. But
                                                > from there on
                                                > up, proof is needed to see if Thomas is the son of
                                                > John and Mary or
                                                > what that relationship is but sure there is a
                                                > relationship... and if
                                                > Priscilla was in fact his wife. (Thomas did have a
                                                > son named Thomas
                                                > with presumably Priscilla) Haven't a clue what
                                                > happened to him or
                                                > Henerick for that matter. Think there is some
                                                > research on Phelix.
                                                >
                                                > I would love to see your copies of the land records
                                                > for Thomas. And
                                                > the notes you have on Priscilla and Thomas, the name
                                                > Thomas wasn't
                                                > used much in any lines I don't think. However there
                                                > was a William in
                                                > Chatham Co. N.C. who had a son Thomas about the same
                                                > time frame.
                                                >
                                                > Somewhere in my original research notes I did find
                                                > census reports and
                                                > or deeds with the names of John and Hannah's
                                                > children and he did have
                                                > a son John and think you and I concluded that it is
                                                > your John. When
                                                > I get time I'll look through my notes and see what
                                                > "proof" I had.
                                                >
                                                > Linda
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                                > <csinghworthington@...> wrote:
                                                > >
                                                > > Dear Linda,
                                                > > From the State Library here in Richmond, I
                                                > found
                                                > > land records for the property of Thomas Braxton,
                                                > those
                                                > > showing his purchases of land and then purchases
                                                > of
                                                > > others "adjoining the land of Thomas Braxton
                                                > > deceased."
                                                > > These I have hand-copied and are at home.
                                                > > I am nearly certain from family names passed
                                                > down
                                                > > that John Braxton and Sarah were my direct line as
                                                > > well as John Braxton and Hannah if these two John
                                                > > Braxtons were father and son.
                                                > > If the relationship between these two men was
                                                > not
                                                > > clear, then I'm still searching for this link.
                                                > > I have turned to land records first, thinking
                                                > that
                                                > > in some transaction or other there will be
                                                > occasion
                                                > > for the relationship to be revealed--a coming of
                                                > age,
                                                > > a passing on of land in anticipation of death or
                                                > other
                                                > > life stage event.
                                                > > The only reservation I have about Priscilla and
                                                > > Thomas is that "Thomas" never came down in my line
                                                > but
                                                > > John and James did unto the present day and
                                                > through
                                                > > each generation, which combined with "Hannah"
                                                > being
                                                > > passed down would lead me to think that John was
                                                > not
                                                > > used simply because of its being a name common
                                                > among
                                                > > our English descendants.
                                                > > I think I also have a record of Priscilla's
                                                > filing
                                                > > for something or other as heir to Thomas. I came
                                                > upon
                                                > > it by pure chance and wish that I had thought to
                                                > pass
                                                > > it along to the group but I did not. That, too, is
                                                > > among my papers at home, and I ran into it at the
                                                > > State Library here.
                                                > > I'll lay hands on it and make amends for my
                                                > errant
                                                > > ways.
                                                > > I feel that everything I can add and document
                                                > and
                                                > > pass onto to you will let you pin down these
                                                > > relationships among our early ancestors.
                                                > > I don't have that big picture because I have
                                                > never
                                                > > organized my information that way. I've discovered
                                                > it
                                                > > in library visits and public records piecemeal and
                                                > am
                                                > > afraid that it is still in pieces on notecards, in
                                                > > notebooks, and even on napkins--the only piece of
                                                > > paper I had left to write on at the time--stuck in
                                                > > some cases like bookmarks between pages of
                                                > Chronicles
                                                > > I or II and between pages in the Pitt County
                                                > > Genealogical Quarterlies where I was able to link
                                                > > these papers to information in these publications.
                                                > > Additionally, I am still looking desperately
                                                > for
                                                > > that organizing principle to define the
                                                > relationships
                                                > > among these early Braxtons.
                                                > > I'll get back to you with my Priscilla and
                                                > Thomas
                                                > > information and sources before Thursday of this
                                                > week.
                                                > > Thanks so much for helping me. You are an
                                                > > inspiration.
                                                > > Later, Carol
                                                > >
                                                > > --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:
                                                > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > > Hi Carol,
                                                > > >
                                                > > > I have Thomas and Priscilla Braxton with 4
                                                > children;
                                                > > > Phelix, Thomas,
                                                > > > Henerich and John b. abt 1770. This John
                                                > married
                                                > > > Hannah and had 5
                                                > > > children: Charles; Council (m. Sarah Roundtree);
                                                > > > John (m. Sarah);
                                                > > > Molcey (m. Luke McGlohon); and Lacy m. 1.
                                                > Elilzabeth
                                                > > > Parker, 2.
                                                > > > Lizzina Tripp.
                                                > > >
                                                > > > Now, Thomas may have been a son of John Braxton
                                                > and
                                                > > > Mary (circa
                                                > > > 1730) and a sibling of John, James, William,
                                                > Jesse
                                                > > > and Levi but this
                                                > > > is open to speculation. He was a neighbor of
                                                > these
                                                > > > Braxton's but we
                                                > > > can't prove the relationship, he may have been
                                                > John
                                                > > > Sr.'s brother,
                                                > > > nephew or other relationship. Cannot prove that
                                                > > > Thomas is the son of
                                                > > > this John. He lived next door to other sons and
                                                > > > relatives. There must
                                                > > > be some relationship. He did not inherit or buy
                                                > > > land from John but
                                                > > > did have land of his own. His children Phelix,
                                                > > > Thomas, Henerich and
                                                > > > John are listed in land sales from his estate.
                                                > > > Thomas was not in the
                                                > > > 1800 census but a Priscilla Blackston was with
                                                > > > children that would be
                                                > > > consistant with the 1790 census of Thomas
                                                > Blackston,
                                                > > > she may or may
                                                > > > not be his widow. also spelled as Brackston.
                                                > > >
                                                > > > Thanks, I'm having a great Thanksgiving and all
                                                > is
                                                > > > well here. Hope
                                                > > > you have a great holiday too. Good to hear from
                                                > you
                                                > > > again.
                                                > > >
                                                > > > Linda
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                                > > > <csinghworthington@> wrote:
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > Dear Linda,
                                                > > > > John, Thomas, James Jr. & James Sr. all
                                                > appear
                                                > > > on
                                                > > > > the sole census from the 1700's.
                                                >
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                                                Hi Carol, I ll be interested to see the Avery/Averitt connection. How did you find that was Priscilla s maiden name? Now will have to check the Wayne County
                                                Message 23 of 29 , Nov 27, 2007
                                                  Hi Carol,

                                                  I'll be interested to see the Avery/Averitt connection. How did you
                                                  find that was Priscilla's maiden name? Now will have to check the
                                                  Wayne County records to see if Thomas was buried there. Which Avery
                                                  line is she from? Someone has our Hannah(married to John) as "Hannah
                                                  Lindley". I do find a Hannah Lindley married to a Thomas Braxton
                                                  from Orange county in the same time frame. I think I checked into
                                                  that a long time ago and found that branch went to Illinois and is
                                                  not a direct connection to our John and Mary Braxton line that I can
                                                  find. Of course there could be another Hannah Lindley, a Wm. Braxton
                                                  is married to a Mary Lindley in Chatham Co. Have to connect more
                                                  dots! Sorting out the Braxton branches is a giant jig saw puzzle! I
                                                  did look in Wayne County some, but haven't found anything yet. I
                                                  don't have access to ancestry.com anymore.

                                                  Yes, families did spell names differently for different reasons. In
                                                  my Finley line I found Findley's, etc. Guess in Scotland a "D" was
                                                  added for those who lived on one side of the River Dee. Of course
                                                  sometimes the census takers spelled names phonetically and made a
                                                  real mess... like my Kerr ancesters, I have to look for Carr, Karr,
                                                  etc. My maiden name is Buginnis, I found out lately that in
                                                  Lithuania there are no double n's in the language... the extra n was
                                                  added in the 30's to sound more Irish so my uncles could get jobs in
                                                  Chicago, one uncle even changed his name to McGinnis. My fathers
                                                  birth certificate was spelled with one n. It was really fun finding
                                                  the name at Ellis Island... there was a z in it to sound more Russian!

                                                  Linda

                                                  --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                                  <csinghworthington@...> wrote:
                                                  >
                                                  > Dear Linda,
                                                  > Thanks. Yes, I descend from John Braxton and Sarah.
                                                  > One reason for our not having seen the name Thomas
                                                  > passed down in the Pitt County families might be also
                                                  > that like Lacey, sons moved in order to purchase
                                                  > farmland to support their wives and children. I have
                                                  > seen case after case of this being mentioned in family
                                                  > correspondence and legal documents.
                                                  > If I remember correctly also, Priscilla was
                                                  > Priscilla Avery. Widowed with six children to provide
                                                  > for, she had left Wayne County where they had moved to
                                                  > establish their home and returned to Pitt.
                                                  > Having no ties to Wayne except for her husband,
                                                  > she wanted to live out her life near her family.
                                                  > Although she had sought no assistance, from what I
                                                  > gathered, her father took on the role of provider for
                                                  > her and the children.
                                                  > I also read that the Avery name had at this time
                                                  > two spellings. The change was made, not for show but
                                                  > for distinction. It seems that there were so many of
                                                  > this name that the family was concerned about
                                                  > confusion as to who was who. Among themselves, they
                                                  > had agreed to a spelling change for some of the
                                                  > families--interesting eh what?
                                                  > I had never heard of nor read of anyone's having
                                                  > changed the spelling of the surname for this reason.
                                                  > With so many variant spellings in our families, this
                                                  > piece of information really caught my attention.
                                                  > Just in case I have misrecalled my notes, will
                                                  > you check Wayne County for Thomas and Priscilla?
                                                  > The State Library here in Richmond is closed on
                                                  > Mondays. That's why I didn't run down there and go
                                                  > directly to my source.
                                                  > Tomorrow I have a block of time free and can do
                                                  > it myself if I can't easily lay hands on my
                                                  > notes--even though I do keep all my publications and
                                                  > notesbooks in one room. It would be a matter of what
                                                  > pages in which one, and that I don't know offhand not
                                                  > having in my mind which Braxtons were mentioned in
                                                  > which Pitt County Family Researchers' Quarterly or in
                                                  > which Chronicles.
                                                  > Thanks for your Braxton information relative to
                                                  > John's family. It may be there's a tie-in but not
                                                  > through Lacey.
                                                  > I recall that in his letter to the Daily
                                                  > Reflector from 1911 Elias A. Braxton had stated that
                                                  > he thought there were other brothers and sisters whose
                                                  > names he might not have remembered or even known, his
                                                  > having been so young when the family moved to
                                                  > Tennessee.
                                                  > Good to hear from you as always, Carol
                                                  >
                                                  > --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:
                                                  >
                                                  > > Hi Carol and John,
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Interesting post John. I haven't done much research
                                                  > > in the last year
                                                  > > or so and if I remember right Carol, that you are
                                                  > > descended from
                                                  > > Lacey's brother John Braxton and Sarah. I'm not
                                                  > > sure which line John
                                                  > > (Meyer's) line is though. I'm sure it isn't through
                                                  > > Lacey though and
                                                  > > I don't have the brother's lines in my data base.
                                                  > > His best bet is to
                                                  > > go to Kenny Braxton's web site or to ancestry.com or
                                                  > > rootsweb and
                                                  > > find which line he links up with. I'm sure that
                                                  > > Lacey is the son of
                                                  > > John and Hannah, and John is the son of Thomas. But
                                                  > > from there on
                                                  > > up, proof is needed to see if Thomas is the son of
                                                  > > John and Mary or
                                                  > > what that relationship is but sure there is a
                                                  > > relationship... and if
                                                  > > Priscilla was in fact his wife. (Thomas did have a
                                                  > > son named Thomas
                                                  > > with presumably Priscilla) Haven't a clue what
                                                  > > happened to him or
                                                  > > Henerick for that matter. Think there is some
                                                  > > research on Phelix.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > I would love to see your copies of the land records
                                                  > > for Thomas. And
                                                  > > the notes you have on Priscilla and Thomas, the name
                                                  > > Thomas wasn't
                                                  > > used much in any lines I don't think. However there
                                                  > > was a William in
                                                  > > Chatham Co. N.C. who had a son Thomas about the same
                                                  > > time frame.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Somewhere in my original research notes I did find
                                                  > > census reports and
                                                  > > or deeds with the names of John and Hannah's
                                                  > > children and he did have
                                                  > > a son John and think you and I concluded that it is
                                                  > > your John. When
                                                  > > I get time I'll look through my notes and see what
                                                  > > "proof" I had.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Linda
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                                  > > <csinghworthington@> wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Dear Linda,
                                                  > > > From the State Library here in Richmond, I
                                                  > > found
                                                  > > > land records for the property of Thomas Braxton,
                                                  > > those
                                                  > > > showing his purchases of land and then purchases
                                                  > > of
                                                  > > > others "adjoining the land of Thomas Braxton
                                                  > > > deceased."
                                                  > > > These I have hand-copied and are at home.
                                                  > > > I am nearly certain from family names passed
                                                  > > down
                                                  > > > that John Braxton and Sarah were my direct line as
                                                  > > > well as John Braxton and Hannah if these two John
                                                  > > > Braxtons were father and son.
                                                  > > > If the relationship between these two men was
                                                  > > not
                                                  > > > clear, then I'm still searching for this link.
                                                  > > > I have turned to land records first, thinking
                                                  > > that
                                                  > > > in some transaction or other there will be
                                                  > > occasion
                                                  > > > for the relationship to be revealed--a coming of
                                                  > > age,
                                                  > > > a passing on of land in anticipation of death or
                                                  > > other
                                                  > > > life stage event.
                                                  > > > The only reservation I have about Priscilla and
                                                  > > > Thomas is that "Thomas" never came down in my line
                                                  > > but
                                                  > > > John and James did unto the present day and
                                                  > > through
                                                  > > > each generation, which combined with "Hannah"
                                                  > > being
                                                  > > > passed down would lead me to think that John was
                                                  > > not
                                                  > > > used simply because of its being a name common
                                                  > > among
                                                  > > > our English descendants.
                                                  > > > I think I also have a record of Priscilla's
                                                  > > filing
                                                  > > > for something or other as heir to Thomas. I came
                                                  > > upon
                                                  > > > it by pure chance and wish that I had thought to
                                                  > > pass
                                                  > > > it along to the group but I did not. That, too, is
                                                  > > > among my papers at home, and I ran into it at the
                                                  > > > State Library here.
                                                  > > > I'll lay hands on it and make amends for my
                                                  > > errant
                                                  > > > ways.
                                                  > > > I feel that everything I can add and document
                                                  > > and
                                                  > > > pass onto to you will let you pin down these
                                                  > > > relationships among our early ancestors.
                                                  > > > I don't have that big picture because I have
                                                  > > never
                                                  > > > organized my information that way. I've discovered
                                                  > > it
                                                  > > > in library visits and public records piecemeal and
                                                  > > am
                                                  > > > afraid that it is still in pieces on notecards, in
                                                  > > > notebooks, and even on napkins--the only piece of
                                                  > > > paper I had left to write on at the time--stuck in
                                                  > > > some cases like bookmarks between pages of
                                                  > > Chronicles
                                                  > > > I or II and between pages in the Pitt County
                                                  > > > Genealogical Quarterlies where I was able to link
                                                  > > > these papers to information in these publications.
                                                  > > > Additionally, I am still looking desperately
                                                  > > for
                                                  > > > that organizing principle to define the
                                                  > > relationships
                                                  > > > among these early Braxtons.
                                                  > > > I'll get back to you with my Priscilla and
                                                  > > Thomas
                                                  > > > information and sources before Thursday of this
                                                  > > week.
                                                  > > > Thanks so much for helping me. You are an
                                                  > > > inspiration.
                                                  > > > Later, Carol
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > --- Linda E <ljeckerd@> wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > Hi Carol,
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > I have Thomas and Priscilla Braxton with 4
                                                  > > children;
                                                  > > > > Phelix, Thomas,
                                                  > > > > Henerich and John b. abt 1770. This John
                                                  > > married
                                                  > > > > Hannah and had 5
                                                  > > > > children: Charles; Council (m. Sarah Roundtree);
                                                  > > > > John (m. Sarah);
                                                  > > > > Molcey (m. Luke McGlohon); and Lacy m. 1.
                                                  > > Elilzabeth
                                                  > > > > Parker, 2.
                                                  > > > > Lizzina Tripp.
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > Now, Thomas may have been a son of John Braxton
                                                  > > and
                                                  > > > > Mary (circa
                                                  > > > > 1730) and a sibling of John, James, William,
                                                  > > Jesse
                                                  > > > > and Levi but this
                                                  > > > > is open to speculation. He was a neighbor of
                                                  > > these
                                                  > > > > Braxton's but we
                                                  > > > > can't prove the relationship, he may have been
                                                  > > John
                                                  > > > > Sr.'s brother,
                                                  > > > > nephew or other relationship. Cannot prove that
                                                  > > > > Thomas is the son of
                                                  > > > > this John. He lived next door to other sons and
                                                  > > > > relatives. There must
                                                  > > > > be some relationship. He did not inherit or buy
                                                  > > > > land from John but
                                                  > > > > did have land of his own. His children Phelix,
                                                  > > > > Thomas, Henerich and
                                                  > > > > John are listed in land sales from his estate.
                                                  > > > > Thomas was not in the
                                                  > > > > 1800 census but a Priscilla Blackston was with
                                                  > > > > children that would be
                                                  > > > > consistant with the 1790 census of Thomas
                                                  > > Blackston,
                                                  > > > > she may or may
                                                  > > > > not be his widow. also spelled as Brackston.
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > Thanks, I'm having a great Thanksgiving and all
                                                  > > is
                                                  > > > > well here. Hope
                                                  > > > > you have a great holiday too. Good to hear from
                                                  > > you
                                                  > > > > again.
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > Linda
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                                  > > > > <csinghworthington@> wrote:
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > Dear Linda,
                                                  > > > > > John, Thomas, James Jr. & James Sr. all
                                                  > > appear
                                                  > > > > on
                                                  > > > > > the sole census from the 1700's.
                                                  > >
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                                                  Dear Linda, I also found records of a daughter of James Braxton who married an Avery around 1810. Her new husband left to fight in the War of 1812 shortly
                                                  Message 24 of 29 , Dec 3, 2007
                                                    Dear Linda,
                                                    I also found records of a daughter of James Braxton
                                                    who married an Avery around 1810. Her new husband left
                                                    to fight in the War of 1812 shortly after the
                                                    marriage. This couple also settled in Wayne County. I
                                                    believed that she filed for his Pension in Pitt. I
                                                    think that in her Petition for the Pension she said
                                                    that they had lived most of their married life in
                                                    Wayne but had married in Pitt at the home of her
                                                    father James Braxton.
                                                    I do not know which James Braxton this man was. I
                                                    imagine, though, that she would have had to submit
                                                    proof of her marriage to her Avery husband in order to
                                                    claim on his record--that being the case in all the
                                                    other Pension claims I have read the supporting
                                                    documents for.
                                                    That being the case I imagine, too, that the names
                                                    of both her parents would have appeared in support of
                                                    that record on her marriage certificate, the more so
                                                    as the marriage took place at her father's house.
                                                    If I can access this piece of information, it could
                                                    very well fill in gaps in the early Braxton line for
                                                    many of us.
                                                    Since I do not know which James was the father of
                                                    this young woman, I also do not know who her siblings
                                                    were. I don't have access to Wayne County records. If
                                                    you would check that end, I'll check for the Pitt
                                                    records at the State library here in Richmond.
                                                    Later, Carol
                                                    --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:

                                                    > Hi Carol,
                                                    >
                                                    > I'll be interested to see the Avery/Averitt
                                                    > connection. How did you
                                                    > find that was Priscilla's maiden name? Now will have
                                                    > to check the
                                                    > Wayne County records to see if Thomas was buried
                                                    > there. Which Avery
                                                    > line is she from? Someone has our Hannah(married to
                                                    > John) as "Hannah
                                                    > Lindley". I do find a Hannah Lindley married to a
                                                    > Thomas Braxton
                                                    > from Orange county in the same time frame. I think
                                                    > I checked into
                                                    > that a long time ago and found that branch went to
                                                    > Illinois and is
                                                    > not a direct connection to our John and Mary Braxton
                                                    > line that I can
                                                    > find. Of course there could be another Hannah
                                                    > Lindley, a Wm. Braxton
                                                    > is married to a Mary Lindley in Chatham Co. Have to
                                                    > connect more
                                                    > dots! Sorting out the Braxton branches is a giant
                                                    > jig saw puzzle! I
                                                    > did look in Wayne County some, but haven't found
                                                    > anything yet. I
                                                    > don't have access to ancestry.com anymore.
                                                    >
                                                    > Yes, families did spell names differently for
                                                    > different reasons. In
                                                    > my Finley line I found Findley's, etc. Guess in
                                                    > Scotland a "D" was
                                                    > added for those who lived on one side of the River
                                                    > Dee. Of course
                                                    > sometimes the census takers spelled names
                                                    > phonetically and made a
                                                    > real mess... like my Kerr ancesters, I have to look
                                                    > for Carr, Karr,
                                                    > etc. My maiden name is Buginnis, I found out lately
                                                    > that in
                                                    > Lithuania there are no double n's in the language...
                                                    > the extra n was
                                                    > added in the 30's to sound more Irish so my uncles
                                                    > could get jobs in
                                                    > Chicago, one uncle even changed his name to
                                                    > McGinnis. My fathers
                                                    > birth certificate was spelled with one n. It was
                                                    > really fun finding
                                                    > the name at Ellis Island... there was a z in it to
                                                    > sound more Russian!
                                                    >
                                                    > Linda
                                                    >
                                                    > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                                    > <csinghworthington@...> wrote:
                                                    > >
                                                    > > Dear Linda,
                                                    > > Thanks. Yes, I descend from John Braxton and
                                                    > Sarah.
                                                    > > One reason for our not having seen the name Thomas
                                                    > > passed down in the Pitt County families might be
                                                    > also
                                                    > > that like Lacey, sons moved in order to purchase
                                                    > > farmland to support their wives and children. I
                                                    > have
                                                    > > seen case after case of this being mentioned in
                                                    > family
                                                    > > correspondence and legal documents.
                                                    > > If I remember correctly also, Priscilla was
                                                    > > Priscilla Avery. Widowed with six children to
                                                    > provide
                                                    > > for, she had left Wayne County where they had
                                                    > moved to
                                                    > > establish their home and returned to Pitt.
                                                    > > Having no ties to Wayne except for her
                                                    > husband,
                                                    > > she wanted to live out her life near her family.
                                                    > > Although she had sought no assistance, from what I
                                                    > > gathered, her father took on the role of provider
                                                    > for
                                                    > > her and the children.
                                                    > > I also read that the Avery name had at this
                                                    > time
                                                    > > two spellings. The change was made, not for show
                                                    > but
                                                    > > for distinction. It seems that there were so many
                                                    > of
                                                    > > this name that the family was concerned about
                                                    > > confusion as to who was who. Among themselves,
                                                    > they
                                                    > > had agreed to a spelling change for some of the
                                                    > > families--interesting eh what?
                                                    > > I had never heard of nor read of anyone's
                                                    > having
                                                    > > changed the spelling of the surname for this
                                                    > reason.
                                                    > > With so many variant spellings in our families,
                                                    > this
                                                    > > piece of information really caught my attention.
                                                    > > Just in case I have misrecalled my notes,
                                                    > will
                                                    > > you check Wayne County for Thomas and Priscilla?
                                                    > > The State Library here in Richmond is closed
                                                    > on
                                                    > > Mondays. That's why I didn't run down there and go
                                                    > > directly to my source.
                                                    > > Tomorrow I have a block of time free and can
                                                    > do
                                                    > > it myself if I can't easily lay hands on my
                                                    > > notes--even though I do keep all my publications
                                                    > and
                                                    > > notesbooks in one room. It would be a matter of
                                                    > what
                                                    > > pages in which one, and that I don't know offhand
                                                    > not
                                                    > > having in my mind which Braxtons were mentioned in
                                                    > > which Pitt County Family Researchers' Quarterly or
                                                    > in
                                                    > > which Chronicles.
                                                    > > Thanks for your Braxton information relative
                                                    > to
                                                    > > John's family. It may be there's a tie-in but not
                                                    > > through Lacey.
                                                    > > I recall that in his letter to the Daily
                                                    > > Reflector from 1911 Elias A. Braxton had stated
                                                    > that
                                                    > > he thought there were other brothers and sisters
                                                    > whose
                                                    > > names he might not have remembered or even known,
                                                    > his
                                                    > > having been so young when the family moved to
                                                    > > Tennessee.
                                                    > > Good to hear from you as always, Carol
                                                    > >
                                                    > > --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:
                                                    > >
                                                    > > > Hi Carol and John,
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > Interesting post John. I haven't done much
                                                    > research
                                                    > > > in the last year
                                                    > > > or so and if I remember right Carol, that you
                                                    > are
                                                    > > > descended from
                                                    > > > Lacey's brother John Braxton and Sarah. I'm not
                                                    > > > sure which line John
                                                    > > > (Meyer's) line is though. I'm sure it isn't
                                                    > through
                                                    > > > Lacey though and
                                                    > > > I don't have the brother's lines in my data
                                                    > base.
                                                    > > > His best bet is to
                                                    > > > go to Kenny Braxton's web site or to
                                                    > ancestry.com or
                                                    > > > rootsweb and
                                                    > > > find which line he links up with. I'm sure that
                                                    > > > Lacey is the son of
                                                    > > > John and Hannah, and John is the son of Thomas.
                                                    > But
                                                    > > > from there on
                                                    > > > up, proof is needed to see if Thomas is the son
                                                    > of
                                                    > > > John and Mary or
                                                    > > > what that relationship is but sure there is a
                                                    > > > relationship... and if
                                                    > > > Priscilla was in fact his wife. (Thomas did have
                                                    > a
                                                    > > > son named Thomas
                                                    > > > with presumably Priscilla) Haven't a clue what
                                                    > > > happened to him or
                                                    > > > Henerick for that matter. Think there is some
                                                    > > > research on Phelix.
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > I would love to see your copies of the land
                                                    > records
                                                    > > > for Thomas. And
                                                    > > > the notes you have on Priscilla and Thomas, the
                                                    > name
                                                    > > > Thomas wasn't
                                                    > > > used much in any lines I don't think. However
                                                    > there
                                                    > > > was a William in
                                                    > > > Chatham Co. N.C. who had a son Thomas about the
                                                    > same
                                                    > > > time frame.
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > Somewhere in my original research notes I did
                                                    > find
                                                    > > > census reports and
                                                    > > > or deeds with the names of John and Hannah's
                                                    > > > children and he did have
                                                    > > > a son John and think you and I concluded that it
                                                    > is
                                                    > > > your John. When
                                                    > > > I get time I'll look through my notes and see
                                                    > what
                                                    > > > "proof" I had.
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > Linda
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > >
                                                    >
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                                                  • adam_cscott
                                                    Hello friends! regarding the statement my Allen and Braxton family merge in Dickson County Tenn ... Did you know that Dickson Co., TN has a new heritage book?
                                                    Message 25 of 29 , Jan 27 8:32 AM
                                                      Hello friends!

                                                      regarding the statement "my Allen and Braxton family merge in
                                                      Dickson County Tenn"...

                                                      Did you know that Dickson Co., TN has a new heritage book? It is
                                                      one of the finest Heritage Books ever. The website is:

                                                      http://www.dicksontnheritage.com

                                                      Enjoy!



                                                      --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                                      <csinghworthington@...> wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      > Dear John,
                                                      > You are probably right about your Braxton lineage
                                                      > to James Braxton, Jr. Linda Eckerd, who has
                                                      > corresponded with you, or Kenny Braxton, who has a
                                                      > Braxton website, would be the most likely of our
                                                      > family to have early photos. Kenny has photos posted
                                                      > on his web. Linda has sent me some of hers. One that
                                                      > particularly stands out for me is that of Elias A.
                                                      > Braxton, my cousin who wrote from his home in Texas to
                                                      > the editor of the Greenville Daily Reflector in 1911
                                                      > [Pitt County Family Researchers' Genealogy Quarterly,
                                                      > Feb. 1995 I believe is the issue in which that letter
                                                      > with his family information in it is contained].
                                                      > I was so impressed that I copied that photo and
                                                      > showed it to my family. My younger brother could be
                                                      > his clone.
                                                      > Back to you shortly,
                                                      > Carol
                                                      > --- John Meyer <hookipajohn@...> wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > I am researching so many parts of my family I forget
                                                      > > sometimes if I responded to this e-mail.
                                                      > >
                                                      > > 1. RICHARD R.1 ALLEN was born Abt. 1768 in North
                                                      > > Carolina, and died Bef. 25 May 1840 in Madison
                                                      > > County,
                                                      > > MS. He married (1) MARY BRAXTON Bef. 1786 in Dickson
                                                      > > County, TN (Originally Part Of NC). She was
                                                      > > born in NC, and died Bef. 1835 in Madison County,
                                                      > > MS. He married (2) JANE FOSTER 24 Aug 1835 in
                                                      > > Madison County, MS. She was born 1785, and died 11
                                                      > > Nov 1865 in Madison County, MS.
                                                      > >
                                                      > > As you can see my Allen and Braxton family merge in
                                                      > > Dickson County Tenn. I am assuming that this must be
                                                      > > the daughter of James Braxton Jr. I would love to
                                                      > > have a Braxton family group sheet to find my 5th
                                                      > > great grandmother and then to see her family.
                                                      > >
                                                      > > John
                                                      > >
                                                    • John Meyer
                                                      Thank you Adam. I wish I had known about it when they were putting it together. John To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.comFrom: adam_cscott@yahoo.comDate: Sun, 27 Jan
                                                      Message 26 of 29 , Jan 27 6:08 PM
                                                        Thank you Adam. I wish I had known about it when they were putting it together.

                                                        John


                                                        To: genpcncfir@yahoogroups.comFrom: adam_cscott@...: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:32:00 +0000Subject: [genpcncfir] Allen & Braxton family in Dickson Co., TN




                                                        Hello friends!regarding the statement "my Allen and Braxton family merge inDickson County Tenn"...Did you know that Dickson Co., TN has a new heritage book? It is one of the finest Heritage Books ever. The website is:http://www.dicksontnheritage.comEnjoy!--- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh <csinghworthington@...> wrote:>> Dear John,> You are probably right about your Braxton lineage> to James Braxton, Jr. Linda Eckerd, who has> corresponded with you, or Kenny Braxton, who has a> Braxton website, would be the most likely of our> family to have early photos. Kenny has photos posted> on his web. Linda has sent me some of hers. One that> particularly stands out for me is that of Elias A.> Braxton, my cousin who wrote from his home in Texas to> the editor of the Greenville Daily Reflector in 1911> [Pitt County Family Researchers' Genealogy Quarterly,> Feb. 1995 I believe is the issue in which that letter> with his family information in it is contained]. > I was so impressed that I copied that photo and> showed it to my family. My younger brother could be> his clone.> Back to you shortly,> Carol> --- John Meyer <hookipajohn@...> wrote:> > > > > I am researching so many parts of my family I forget> > sometimes if I responded to this e-mail. > > > > 1. RICHARD R.1 ALLEN was born Abt. 1768 in North> > Carolina, and died Bef. 25 May 1840 in Madison> > County,> > MS. He married (1) MARY BRAXTON Bef. 1786 in Dickson> > County, TN (Originally Part Of NC). She was> > born in NC, and died Bef. 1835 in Madison County,> > MS. He married (2) JANE FOSTER 24 Aug 1835 in> > Madison County, MS. She was born 1785, and died 11> > Nov 1865 in Madison County, MS.> > > > As you can see my Allen and Braxton family merge in> > Dickson County Tenn. I am assuming that this must be> > the daughter of James Braxton Jr. I would love to> > have a Braxton family group sheet to find my 5th> > great grandmother and then to see her family.> > > > John> >






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                                                      • Linda E
                                                        Hi Carol, As far as I know my line did not go to Dickson Co. TN. Lacey & son Elias A. Braxton went to Hawkins to Warren (1870), Cannon (1880), Lincoln and
                                                        Message 27 of 29 , Jan 28 12:05 PM
                                                          Hi Carol,

                                                          As far as I know my line did not go to Dickson Co. TN. Lacey & son
                                                          Elias A. Braxton went to Hawkins to Warren (1870), Cannon (1880),
                                                          Lincoln and Marshall Counties in TN. One of Lacey's sons by Livina
                                                          went to Coffee Co., then Elias went on to Parker Co. Texas. The
                                                          photos of Elias and his children Laura (my grgrandmother) and John
                                                          are in the Photo section here in Kenny's album.

                                                          Linda E.


                                                          --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, "adam_cscott" <adam_cscott@...>
                                                          wrote:
                                                          >
                                                          >
                                                          > Hello friends!
                                                          >
                                                          > regarding the statement "my Allen and Braxton family merge in
                                                          > Dickson County Tenn"...
                                                          >
                                                          > Did you know that Dickson Co., TN has a new heritage book? It is
                                                          > one of the finest Heritage Books ever. The website is:
                                                          >
                                                          > http://www.dicksontnheritage.com
                                                          >
                                                          > Enjoy!
                                                          >
                                                          >
                                                          >
                                                          > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                                          > <csinghworthington@> wrote:
                                                          > >
                                                          > > Dear John,
                                                          > > You are probably right about your Braxton lineage
                                                          > > to James Braxton, Jr. Linda Eckerd, who has
                                                          > > corresponded with you, or Kenny Braxton, who has a
                                                          > > Braxton website, would be the most likely of our
                                                          > > family to have early photos. Kenny has photos posted
                                                          > > on his web. Linda has sent me some of hers. One that
                                                          > > particularly stands out for me is that of Elias A.
                                                          > > Braxton, my cousin who wrote from his home in Texas to
                                                          > > the editor of the Greenville Daily Reflector in 1911
                                                          > > [Pitt County Family Researchers' Genealogy Quarterly,
                                                          > > Feb. 1995 I believe is the issue in which that letter
                                                          > > with his family information in it is contained].
                                                          > > I was so impressed that I copied that photo and
                                                          > > showed it to my family. My younger brother could be
                                                          > > his clone.
                                                          > > Back to you shortly,
                                                          > > Carol
                                                          > > --- John Meyer <hookipajohn@> wrote:
                                                          > >
                                                          > > >
                                                          > > > I am researching so many parts of my family I forget
                                                          > > > sometimes if I responded to this e-mail.
                                                          > > >
                                                          > > > 1. RICHARD R.1 ALLEN was born Abt. 1768 in North
                                                          > > > Carolina, and died Bef. 25 May 1840 in Madison
                                                          > > > County,
                                                          > > > MS. He married (1) MARY BRAXTON Bef. 1786 in Dickson
                                                          > > > County, TN (Originally Part Of NC). She was
                                                          > > > born in NC, and died Bef. 1835 in Madison County,
                                                          > > > MS. He married (2) JANE FOSTER 24 Aug 1835 in
                                                          > > > Madison County, MS. She was born 1785, and died 11
                                                          > > > Nov 1865 in Madison County, MS.
                                                          > > >
                                                          > > > As you can see my Allen and Braxton family merge in
                                                          > > > Dickson County Tenn. I am assuming that this must be
                                                          > > > the daughter of James Braxton Jr. I would love to
                                                          > > > have a Braxton family group sheet to find my 5th
                                                          > > > great grandmother and then to see her family.
                                                          > > >
                                                          > > > John
                                                          > > >
                                                          >
                                                        • Carol Singh
                                                          Dear Linda, Thanks for adding to our discussion of these Braxtons. I recall reading in one of our Quarterlies of the Pitt County Family Researchers of a
                                                          Message 28 of 29 , Jan 30 6:26 AM
                                                            Dear Linda,
                                                            Thanks for adding to our discussion of these
                                                            Braxtons. I recall reading in one of our Quarterlies
                                                            of the Pitt County Family Researchers of a Braxton son
                                                            who had moved to Tennessee to buy land to farm so that
                                                            he could support his family.
                                                            His return home to visit had been duly noted in the
                                                            local paper whose reporter had interviewed this
                                                            returning visitor.
                                                            The returning Braxton had come back home in hopes
                                                            of finding affordable land in order to move his family
                                                            back to Pitt.
                                                            It seems that with his parents getting older and
                                                            his children growing up he wanted to be near his
                                                            parents in their old age. Unable on this visit still
                                                            to find enough acreage to support himself, he went
                                                            back once more to his Tennessee home.
                                                            I'll check my Quarterlies to pin point which family
                                                            this selection was located.
                                                            Later, Carol
                                                            --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:

                                                            > Hi Carol,
                                                            >
                                                            > As far as I know my line did not go to Dickson Co.
                                                            > TN. Lacey & son
                                                            > Elias A. Braxton went to Hawkins to Warren (1870),
                                                            > Cannon (1880),
                                                            > Lincoln and Marshall Counties in TN. One of Lacey's
                                                            > sons by Livina
                                                            > went to Coffee Co., then Elias went on to Parker Co.
                                                            > Texas. The
                                                            > photos of Elias and his children Laura (my
                                                            > grgrandmother) and John
                                                            > are in the Photo section here in Kenny's album.
                                                            >
                                                            > Linda E.
                                                            >
                                                            >
                                                            > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, "adam_cscott"
                                                            > <adam_cscott@...>
                                                            > wrote:
                                                            > >
                                                            > >
                                                            > > Hello friends!
                                                            > >
                                                            > > regarding the statement "my Allen and Braxton
                                                            > family merge in
                                                            > > Dickson County Tenn"...
                                                            > >
                                                            > > Did you know that Dickson Co., TN has a new
                                                            > heritage book? It is
                                                            > > one of the finest Heritage Books ever. The
                                                            > website is:
                                                            > >
                                                            > > http://www.dicksontnheritage.com
                                                            > >
                                                            > > Enjoy!
                                                            > >
                                                            > >
                                                            > >
                                                            > > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                                            > > <csinghworthington@> wrote:
                                                            > > >
                                                            > > > Dear John,
                                                            > > > You are probably right about your Braxton
                                                            > lineage
                                                            > > > to James Braxton, Jr. Linda Eckerd, who has
                                                            > > > corresponded with you, or Kenny Braxton, who has
                                                            > a
                                                            > > > Braxton website, would be the most likely of our
                                                            > > > family to have early photos. Kenny has photos
                                                            > posted
                                                            > > > on his web. Linda has sent me some of hers. One
                                                            > that
                                                            > > > particularly stands out for me is that of Elias
                                                            > A.
                                                            > > > Braxton, my cousin who wrote from his home in
                                                            > Texas to
                                                            > > > the editor of the Greenville Daily Reflector in
                                                            > 1911
                                                            > > > [Pitt County Family Researchers' Genealogy
                                                            > Quarterly,
                                                            > > > Feb. 1995 I believe is the issue in which that
                                                            > letter
                                                            > > > with his family information in it is contained].
                                                            >
                                                            > > > I was so impressed that I copied that photo
                                                            > and
                                                            > > > showed it to my family. My younger brother could
                                                            > be
                                                            > > > his clone.
                                                            > > > Back to you shortly,
                                                            > > > Carol
                                                            > > > --- John Meyer <hookipajohn@> wrote:
                                                            > > >
                                                            > > > >
                                                            > > > > I am researching so many parts of my family I
                                                            > forget
                                                            > > > > sometimes if I responded to this e-mail.
                                                            > > > >
                                                            > > > > 1. RICHARD R.1 ALLEN was born Abt. 1768 in
                                                            > North
                                                            > > > > Carolina, and died Bef. 25 May 1840 in Madison
                                                            > > > > County,
                                                            > > > > MS. He married (1) MARY BRAXTON Bef. 1786 in
                                                            > Dickson
                                                            > > > > County, TN (Originally Part Of NC). She was
                                                            > > > > born in NC, and died Bef. 1835 in Madison
                                                            > County,
                                                            > > > > MS. He married (2) JANE FOSTER 24 Aug 1835 in
                                                            > > > > Madison County, MS. She was born 1785, and
                                                            > died 11
                                                            > > > > Nov 1865 in Madison County, MS.
                                                            > > > >
                                                            > > > > As you can see my Allen and Braxton family
                                                            > merge in
                                                            > > > > Dickson County Tenn. I am assuming that this
                                                            > must be
                                                            > > > > the daughter of James Braxton Jr. I would love
                                                            > to
                                                            > > > > have a Braxton family group sheet to find my
                                                            > 5th
                                                            > > > > great grandmother and then to see her family.
                                                            > > > >
                                                            > > > > John
                                                            > > > >
                                                            > >
                                                            >
                                                            >
                                                            >



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                                                          • Carol Singh
                                                            Dear Linda, The rest of the story comes back to me now. What I did not know was what part of Tennessee Lacey and his new wife settled in. I also do not know
                                                            Message 29 of 29 , Jan 31 9:32 AM
                                                              Dear Linda,
                                                              The rest of the story comes back to me now. What I
                                                              did not know was what part of Tennessee Lacey and his
                                                              new wife settled in.
                                                              I also do not know whether in Tennessee as in
                                                              North Carolina some of those counties changed
                                                              boundaries over time. Additionally, most maps we see
                                                              displayed in classrooms all across the country do not
                                                              give the county names of any county in any state.
                                                              The same applies to foreign countries. Imagine my
                                                              chagrin when a Mexican lady asked me what I meant when
                                                              I referred to Mexico, the state or the Federal
                                                              District?
                                                              Of course, we have Washington, D.C. and Washington
                                                              State, so the question by itself was no big deal. The
                                                              big deal was that nobody in my whole life, despite my
                                                              educational level, had ever let it out that Mexico was
                                                              divided into states.
                                                              I do know that many people, unlike me, do know
                                                              geographical facts very well. I am willing to bet also
                                                              that you probably do know approximately the distance
                                                              between Dickson County and the counties where some of
                                                              our kin first settled.
                                                              Very possibly, another Braxton family than our kin
                                                              settled in areas of Tennessee for the same reasons
                                                              ours did.
                                                              I was wondering if perhaps the author of the
                                                              e-mail given enough information from us might be able
                                                              to find the origins of his own line.
                                                              Despite my years of research, I still have gaps in
                                                              my lineage before 1850.
                                                              Perhaps one day by chance somebody will provide
                                                              additional information, as Elias did in his 1915
                                                              letter, that will answer some of our own unanswered
                                                              questions.
                                                              In the meantime, I wait for breaks in my work
                                                              schedule that will let me get back to Greenville to
                                                              pursue additional leads through courthouse records and
                                                              library resources.
                                                              The latest from our Virginia Braxtons is that my
                                                              nephew Timothy Howard Braxton, son of my brother
                                                              Howard Worthington Braxton, has started his own
                                                              Braxton web page.
                                                              As soon as I get a chance, I will access his site
                                                              and let you know if he has information that we do not.
                                                              My brother Howard has known through his work for
                                                              years a Braxton family that moved here from Pitt. We
                                                              have corresponded from time to time. I'll get back to
                                                              you to share any new information.
                                                              As always, it is good to hear from you.
                                                              Later, Carol

                                                              --- Linda E <ljeckerd@...> wrote:

                                                              > Hi Carol,
                                                              >
                                                              > As far as I know my line did not go to Dickson Co.
                                                              > TN. Lacey & son
                                                              > Elias A. Braxton went to Hawkins to Warren (1870),
                                                              > Cannon (1880),
                                                              > Lincoln and Marshall Counties in TN. One of Lacey's
                                                              > sons by Livina
                                                              > went to Coffee Co., then Elias went on to Parker Co.
                                                              > Texas. The
                                                              > photos of Elias and his children Laura (my
                                                              > grgrandmother) and John
                                                              > are in the Photo section here in Kenny's album.
                                                              >
                                                              > Linda E.
                                                              >
                                                              >
                                                              > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, "adam_cscott"
                                                              > <adam_cscott@...>
                                                              > wrote:
                                                              > >
                                                              > >
                                                              > > Hello friends!
                                                              > >
                                                              > > regarding the statement "my Allen and Braxton
                                                              > family merge in
                                                              > > Dickson County Tenn"...
                                                              > >
                                                              > > Did you know that Dickson Co., TN has a new
                                                              > heritage book? It is
                                                              > > one of the finest Heritage Books ever. The
                                                              > website is:
                                                              > >
                                                              > > http://www.dicksontnheritage.com
                                                              > >
                                                              > > Enjoy!
                                                              > >
                                                              > >
                                                              > >
                                                              > > --- In genpcncfir@yahoogroups.com, Carol Singh
                                                              > > <csinghworthington@> wrote:
                                                              > > >
                                                              > > > Dear John,
                                                              > > > You are probably right about your Braxton
                                                              > lineage
                                                              > > > to James Braxton, Jr. Linda Eckerd, who has
                                                              > > > corresponded with you, or Kenny Braxton, who has
                                                              > a
                                                              > > > Braxton website, would be the most likely of our
                                                              > > > family to have early photos. Kenny has photos
                                                              > posted
                                                              > > > on his web. Linda has sent me some of hers. One
                                                              > that
                                                              > > > particularly stands out for me is that of Elias
                                                              > A.
                                                              > > > Braxton, my cousin who wrote from his home in
                                                              > Texas to
                                                              > > > the editor of the Greenville Daily Reflector in
                                                              > 1911
                                                              > > > [Pitt County Family Researchers' Genealogy
                                                              > Quarterly,
                                                              > > > Feb. 1995 I believe is the issue in which that
                                                              > letter
                                                              > > > with his family information in it is contained].
                                                              >
                                                              > > > I was so impressed that I copied that photo
                                                              > and
                                                              > > > showed it to my family. My younger brother could
                                                              > be
                                                              > > > his clone.
                                                              > > > Back to you shortly,
                                                              > > > Carol
                                                              > > > --- John Meyer <hookipajohn@> wrote:
                                                              > > >
                                                              > > > >
                                                              > > > > I am researching so many parts of my family I
                                                              > forget
                                                              > > > > sometimes if I responded to this e-mail.
                                                              > > > >
                                                              > > > > 1. RICHARD R.1 ALLEN was born Abt. 1768 in
                                                              > North
                                                              > > > > Carolina, and died Bef. 25 May 1840 in Madison
                                                              > > > > County,
                                                              > > > > MS. He married (1) MARY BRAXTON Bef. 1786 in
                                                              > Dickson
                                                              > > > > County, TN (Originally Part Of NC). She was
                                                              > > > > born in NC, and died Bef. 1835 in Madison
                                                              > County,
                                                              > > > > MS. He married (2) JANE FOSTER 24 Aug 1835 in
                                                              > > > > Madison County, MS. She was born 1785, and
                                                              > died 11
                                                              > > > > Nov 1865 in Madison County, MS.
                                                              > > > >
                                                              > > > > As you can see my Allen and Braxton family
                                                              > merge in
                                                              > > > > Dickson County Tenn. I am assuming that this
                                                              > must be
                                                              > > > > the daughter of James Braxton Jr. I would love
                                                              > to
                                                              > > > > have a Braxton family group sheet to find my
                                                              > 5th
                                                              > > > > great grandmother and then to see her family.
                                                              > > > >
                                                              > > > > John
                                                              > > > >
                                                              > >
                                                              >
                                                              >
                                                              >



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