Re: [genpcncfir] Forbes of Beaufort/Pitt Counties, NC
- View SourceDear Bob,
Amen, brother! I can relate to that! Of course, no
Thanks for bringing the sunshine into my day. It's
always a pleasure to read your e-mails.
--- Bob Forbes <bforbes@...> wrote:
> Trish - Thanks for the info on Sallie Forbes=== message truncated ===
> Rountree etc. below. I have
> filed it with considerable other info that Betty
> Wall has sent me lately on
> land transactions by Forbes family in 1700's and
> 1800's, trusting one day I
> will connect the dots on all these Forbes folk of
> Pitt County whom I have
> little to no doubt were all related. I have some
> pretty plausible theories,
> based primarily on the repetition of given names and
> names that show up
> together in land transactions, that this Sallie
> Forbes and many others of
> her surname in the late 1700's/early 1800's were
> connected to Forbes men of
> a generation or two earlier who show up around Bath
> Towne in the 1730's and
> 1740's -- those men being Benjamin, John & William
> Forbes. Benjamin Forbes
> and John Forbes of that generation both died around
> 1750, but not before
> they had each acquired considerable land in "upland
> Beaufort County" at that
> time, and what is now of course Pitt County.
> Meanwhile, William Forbes moved
> down to New Hanover County and then up the Cape Fear
> River a ways near
> Fayetteville, but he apparently died in New Bern
> without issue.
> I think that most of our Pitt County Forbes folk
> descend from either John
> Forbes, who was a Deputy Surveyor in NC for a decade
> or so and also Clerk of
> Bath County for awhile--- or Benjamin, who may have
> been his brother and was
> apparently a merchant and ship's captain who decided
> to retire and settle in
> Bath, purchasing a lot in town and a small
> plantation outside of town, as
> was the custom of the time. For reasons I can't get
> into right now, I think
> that my 3-gr-grandfather Arthur Forbes had brothers
> named Joseph, John, and
> that those 3 were sons of the earlier John Forbes,
> the surveyor and county
> clerk. Meanwhile, Benjamin Forbes the merchant had
> sons named Charles and
> Clement, and maybe another John. I believe that's
> the line that your Robert
> Forbes who married Gracey Tyson descends --
> producing a line of Greenville
> merchants as you know.
> BTW, yDNA testing has connected a number of us
> descended from these lines,
> but we haven't found a male descended from your
> Robert who is willing to be
> tested yet.. If you can locate one who's interested
> (has to be a male who
> claims paternal Forbes descendancy), let me know!
> PS - I had to laugh about your remark on Forbes
> marriages appearing intended
> to "keep land within the family." Indeed, the deeds
> and marriage records of
> this line would have you believe that was the
> primary motivation for most of
> the marriages, for a couple hundred years at least!
> Bob Forbes
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Trish Worthington Cobb" <turniproots@...>
> To: <email@example.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [genpcncfir] Sallie Forbes Rountree...
> I hope you can find Sallie Forbes' family and
> confirm it. I have
> never been satisfied with the information I have had
> on her.
> I have had a problem of how Sallie Forbes fits in
> the Barrow family,
> but it does look as if she is the Sally Forbes named
> in the
> depositions of the BENTLEY vs. FORBES case, but
> figuring out the
> relationships of everyone mentioned there is
> confusing, to say the
> Bob, please bear with me as I attempt to understand
> this. I am not
> sure my brain is working at its peak, so if my logic
> is skewed,
> please point it out to me.
> I have only seen the abstracts. I have not seen the
> documents. I hope I have not made any critical
> ?Abstract of NC Supreme Court Case # 301: BENTLEY
> vs. FORBES, no
> date - Pitt County.
> Luke BENTLEY, Whitney NICHOLS, and wife Mary, Ben
> BENTLEY (admin. of
> Elizabeth BENTLEY), John BENTLEY, Mark BENTLEY,
> Matthew BENTLEY
> versus Benjamin FORBES, Robert R. GWALTNEY, and wife
> Polly, William
> ROUNTREE and wife Sally, Honour BARROW.
> Tapley BENTLEY (died Pitt County in Sept. 1796)
> married Elizabeth
> _____ (died June 1, 1797). Tapley was poor and had
> little property,
> a few cattle, hogs and two horses at his death. He
> left five small
> 1) Luke BENTLEY,
> 2) Mary BENTLEY, md. age 20 to Whitney NICHOLS,
> 3) John BENTLEY, died 1811,
> 4) Mark BENTLEY, died Aug. 1804,
> 5) Matthew BENTLEY, died under age 21.
> ?The will of Tapley BENTLEY was proved by Benjamin
> BARROW, executor.
> ?Thomas BENTLEY'S mother (also the mother of Tapley
> BENTLEY) stayed
> with the children for one year after the death of
> Tapley. He left
> provision for the children's support.
> ?The children's grandmother stayed with the
> children until the day
> of the estate sale. Then John BENTLEY took the two
> smallest children
> and old Benjamin BARROW took the rest of the
> children. After 18
> months, John BENTLEY broke up house and moved to the
> southward. He
> took the two smallest children to Mr. BARROW. John
> BENTLEY was paid
> $60.00 at Holland JOHNSON'S Shop for keeping the two
> children. While
> at BARROW'S, Mark and Luke BENTLEY ran away
> together, but Luke returned.
> ?Amy HANDCOCK took in Mark BENTLEY and he died at
> her house and was
> buried there.
> ?Benjamin BARROW clothed and boarded the five
> children of Tapley
> BENTLEY for 18 months and he had a great deal of
> trouble with them.
> After that, two died and two, John and Mary (Polly)
> BENTLEY, were
> bound out apprentice.
> ?John BENTLEY was apprenticed by Benjamin BARROW to
> Richard BALDREE
> at age 6 or 7. John BENTLEY died at house of
> Richard BALDREE at age
> 13 or 14.
> ?Mrs. Mathiah BRILEY kept Polly BENTLEY. William
> NICHOLS says Mary
> (Polly) BENTLEY was no older than 20 when she
> married Whitney NICHOLS.
> ?Honour married Benjamin BARROW (he died in 1808)
> and she remarried
> and removed to Tennessee.
> ?The will of Benjamin BARROW of Pitt County was
> dated Sept. 5, 1807
> and probated August term 1808. He left legacies to
> wife Honor;
> grandson Benjamin FORBES; granddaughters Polly and
> Sally FORBES.
> ?Polly FORBES married Robert GWALTNEY.
> ?Sally FORBES married William ROUNTREE (died by
> Dec. 1827).
> ?Benjamin FORBES removed out of state.
> ?Depositions of (1822) John W. VINSON, Lacy ROBSON,
> Amy HANDCOCK,
> Richard BALDREE, William TAYLOR, Penny EVERETT,
> Lydia NICHOLS, Sarah
> JOYNER (widow of Abraham), Delitha VINSON (widow of
> James), Charles
> JENKINS, William MAYS, William MOORE, Simon KEEL,
> Whitney NICHOLS.
> Source: Abstract of Supreme Court Case # 301
> [BENTLEY vs. FORBES] no
> date - Pitt County, Pitt County Genealogical
> Quarterly, Vol. II, No.
> 2, May 1995, pp. 5-6 and Vol. II, No. 3, August
> 1995, pp. 1-2
> What perplexes me the most about this case is this:
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