Re: [genpcncfir] Some thoughts on the Indian Wars, and the Weather, of course...
- Dear Bob,
Well-stated, as usual. As one popular song has it,
"Yesterday's gone, and tomorrow may never be mine.
Give me today what I need today, one day at a time."
For the rest, if we chose to recount it, I feel
sure that every single one of us could recall an
incident where somebody hurt us or our feelings and
mark that as the turn-for-the-worse in our fortunes.
Still, I'd follow Mama's example.
"Get up. Dust off your britches, and keep going.
Anything can be a stumbling block or a stepping
stone. It's what you make it."
--- Bob Forbes <bforbes@...> wrote:
> Catherine - Your 'expertise' characterization of my__________________________________________________
> meanderings flatters me, but thanks for reading my
> post about this interesting and tragic period in
> NC's early history. I will be interested to read a
> copy of your paper once submitted, as well as your
> review of the book you found on the Southern Band of
> Tuscarora's website. I have looked around the
> website some and am a bit amazed at the level of
> feelings and even personal resentments expressed
> there about the actions of some of our ancestors 300
> years ago.
> Fighting for various reasons (mostly over land but
> often just for revenge) was a way of life among the
> Indians long before European colonists arrived. The
> colonial leaders recognized the tension between
> different Indian groups and figured (correctly in
> most cases) that they could slowly take the land
> without losing many settlers' lives, simply by
> taking advantage of long-running hostilities that
> were already in place, and continuing to pit one
> group of Indians against another. With the exception
> of the few times that Indians banded together to
> strike at the colonists (such as the 1711 massacre
> and others), the Colonial and US Indian strategies
> worked pretty well. Indians could certainly put
> together a dominant force during the sporadic
> occasions that they did agree to fight together,
> however, right on through the late 1800's. For proof
> of that, just take a brief look back at Custer's
> Last Stand...
> Our ancestors on both the American Indian and
> European sides (and many of us w/ old roots on
> American soil have both sides in our blood whether
> we know it or not) did pretty much what they had to
> do to survive. In most cases, that meant fighting
> for the land that provided their only source of
> food, shelter, and income. I don't have a lot of
> patience with groups of minorities who feel they are
> owed compensation or renumeration for the choices
> our ancestors made a couple of hundred years ago.
> Granted, many of their acts were indeed atrocious,
> but seems to me that no single group of people had a
> monopoly on atrocities... they were committed by
> I will agree it's been pretty much a rule throughout
> history, though, that whatever group of people is
> dominant at any given time generally creates the
> most atrocities during that time. In the case of our
> European ancestors who came to America, that meant
> breaking many treaties that were made with the
> Indians. We've tried to compensate for our guilt in
> those cases with political acts of favoritism today.
> In return for the white man's history of breaking
> treaties, for example, we give Indian tribes
> monopolies on gambling casinos in lots of places,
> along with various other concessions. Tit for tat, I
> suppose. But when all's said & done, I trust we
> remember that we're all Americans first and
> Will end this one with the most universal of all
> topics (well, maybe the 2nd most;-), that being the
> weather. Many of us in the SE US are getting a mite
> wet today, courtesy of TS (and maybe little
> Hurricane, before it's over) Ernesto. We've already
> had some flash-flooding in the Charlotte area from
> the first rain band that came thru last night, and
> there will likely be a couple more later today.
> Latest satellite look at Accuweather.com (7 AM 8/31)
> shows Ernesto tightening right back into a classical
> cyclone shape as he settles over the Gulf Stream
> east of Jacksonville, FL, before heading north, and
> bound to get a little stronger before visiting
> eastern NC tonight - likely near Wilmington and not
> far from another Jacksonville. Folks from that area
> and due north thru the eastern seaboard are going to
> get drenched.... so let's pick up the trash, clear
> the storm drains, bring in the lawn furniture, and
> get ready for a soaking!
> Bob Forbes
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Catherine
> To: email@example.com
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [genpcncfir] Tuscarora Indian War of
> Thank you so much Bob for listing your favorite
> sources. That will be a big
> help! I loved reading your summary of events and
> had no idea that my
> request would be answered by someone with such
> expertise! I am ever so
> grateful. I will send you a copy of my paper once
> I have completed it.
> I found the Lawson journal is available though my
> college library as an
> e-book and that will be a big help. I am also
> purchasing a book that I
> found through the Southern Band of Tuscarora's web
> site called
> "Onkwehonweh-the first people-Tuscarora". If you
> have not seen this book,
> then I will be glad to give you a review of it
> once I have seen it.
> I will try to get the North Carolina Indian book
> through interlibrary loan.
> Thank you so much for giving me such a great
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
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