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Re: [Genealogy Research Club] Re: CARREL of Pennsylvania and Ohio

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    The problem with census before 1850 is that they named only the head of house hold, then broke down the rest of the household members as numbers by age gender
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      The problem with census before 1850 is that they named only the head of house hold, then broke down the rest of the household members as numbers by age gender race. The only way you would find a woman on there was if she were a spinster, or widow and was considered head of household. Children were near impossible to track down by name.

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      ----- Original Message -----
      From: angiem775
      To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:14 PM
      Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] Re: CARREL of Pennsylvania and Ohio


      Tom;
      I do believe that Peter and Catharine Carrel were Lebbeus's
      parents too. I have back to the the 1850 census but nothing before
      that.. Can you find anything in the 1840 census or anything earlier
      on Peter and Catharine??? Apperciate the help..
      Angie

      --- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Knox"
      <tomknox2001@...> wrote:
      >
      > You have the 1880 census,
      > but do you have the others going back?
      >
      > 1880 Perry, Hocking, Ohio
      > Carrel, Lebleus/51:OH:PA:PA, Ailsy/53:OH:KY:KY
      > (), Samuel/25, Olive/23, Daniel/19 & other children
      > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?
      > htx=View&r=an&dbid=6742&iid=OHT9_1033-0719
      > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/household_record.asp?
      > HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1880US_5725789&frompage=5
      >
      > 1870 Perry (P.O. Logan), Hocking, OH (all marked born Ohio)
      > Carrel, Lebeus?/40/farmer, Ailsey/43, Martha/16,
      > (), Samuel/15, Olive/12, Daniel/9, Henry/8, Catherine/4, Mary/2
      > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?
      > htx=View&r=an&dbid=7163&iid=OHM593_1223-0284
      > NOTE: indexed as name LEBENS CASSEL
      >
      > 1860 Perry (P.O. South Perry), Hocking, Ohio
      > Carrol, Lebbeus?, 31 Farm Laborer (all dittoed born Ohio)
      > (), Elsa/31, Martha/7, Samuel/5, Ollive/3
      > (next door is the household of)
      > Carrol, Peter/68:PA/farmer, Catharine/50:PA,
      > (), Maria Jane/21:OH, Sarah/12:OH
      > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?
      > htx=View&r=an&dbid=7667&iid=OHM653_988-0408
      > NOTE: indexed as firstname LEBBENS
      >
      > 1850 Washington, Hocking, OH
      > (indexed as SIBRAUS CARROL)
      > Carrol, Libraus/21:OH/laborer, Elsey/20:OH, Mallissa/6m:OH
      > (next door is the household of)
      > Carrol, Peter/58:PA/farmer, Catharine/40:PA,
      > (), Nancy/14:OH, Jane/11:OH, Sarah/2:OH
      > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?
      > htx=View&r=an&dbid=8054&iid=OHM432_695-0026
      >
      > Not proof, but the proximity of Peter & Catharine Carrol make me
      > suspect that they are the parents of Libraus/Lebbeus/(etc).
      >
      > Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934
      > Name: Lebbeus Carrel
      > State Filed: Ohio
      > Widow: Elsey Carrel
      > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?
      > htx=View&r=an&dbid=4654&iid=T288_73-1218
      > (card is hard to read) ?? "M 12 Ohio Cav" ??
      > NOTE: see next set of data (below).
      >
      > American Civil War Soldiers
      > Name: Lebbens Carrol
      > Enlistment Date: 03 November 1863
      > State Served: Ohio
      > Side Served: Union
      > Unit Numbers: 1693 1693
      > Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 03 November 1863 at the
      age
      > of 34
      > Enlisted in Company M, 12th Cavalry Regiment Ohio on 24 November
      > 1863.
      > Mustered out Company M, 12th Cavalry Regiment Ohio on 17 July 1865
      > in Hosp, Camp Dennison, OH
      >
      > - Tom Knox IBSSG
      >
      >
      > --- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, Angie Major
      > <angiem775@> wrote:
      > >
      > > I am looking for information on my gggrandfather Lebbues (also
      > > Leblues, Lebbues and may others)Carrel. According to the 1880
      > Hocking County, Ohio census he was born abt 1828/29 in OHIO. He
      > married Ailsy (also spelled Elsa and many other ways (Cam(p)bell)
      > who was born abt 1826/27 in OHIO.
      > >
      > > Lebbues's parents were born in PA and Ailsy's were born in
      > Kentucky. I can not seem to find who they are????
      > >
      > > I descend from their son Daniel. He was born Aug 14, 1861 in
      > Perry Twp., Hocking Co., OHIO and died Jul 27 1942 in Pickaway
      Co.,
      > OHIO. He married Anna E. Peterson Apr 9 1885 in Hocking Co., OHIO.
      > She was born Jan 12 1866 in Madison Twp., Pickaway Co., OHIO and
      > died May 25 1913 in Pickaway Co., OHIO.
      > >
      > > Any information will help. I have Daniel's granddaughter, Gladys
      > Julian Cox's (my grandmother) line, up to date and am willing to
      > share information. Thanks
      > >
      >





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