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  • Chris sparks
    Looking for help with the following people. This is the only info I have on them. I think maybe Newman was a Native American Name because Irene (SnowFlake)
    Message 1 of 3 , Sep 21, 2009
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      Looking for help with the following people. This is the only info I have on them. I think maybe Newman was a Native American Name because Irene (SnowFlake) Newman, No. 4, was told to be full blooded Cherokee. Any help with these Newmans is appreciated.
       
      Carl and Helen in red are my grandparents.
       
       
      Descendants of Samuel Newman


      1 Samuel Newman
             +Laura Williams
                  Father: Samuel Williams Mother: Indian wife, no known name
      2 Ernest Newman
            +Ruth Walker 
                  Father: Charles (Charlie) Walker Mother: Pheobe Hudson
      3 William Newman
            +Ellen Lilybelle Pitzer
                  Father: George Pitzer Mother: Martha Ann Fury b: January 20, 1875
      4 Irene (Snow Flake) Newman d: March 1988
            +George G. Childers
                  Father: Andrew Jackson Childers d: August 1964 Mother: Susan Jane Rippetoe b: December 18, 1876
        5 Carl Hugheston Childers d: March 1983 in Belva,WV b: June 11, 1910
             +Helen Janese Taylor
                   Father: Roy Marshall Taylor Mother: Emma Belle Odell b: May 06, 1919 in Wyndal,WV
      Chris




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    • Bloodhound (genealogy); Kermit (alt.nick)
      Chris - Here s Carl H Childers with father George - 1930 Falls, Fayette, WV (all marked as White born WV:WV:WV) Childers, George, head 53 married at age 26
      Message 2 of 3 , Sep 24, 2009
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        Chris -

        Here's Carl H Childers with father George -

        1930 Falls, Fayette, WV (all marked as White born WV:WV:WV)
        Childers, George, head 53 married at age 26 laborer, coal mine
        (), Anna, wife 47 married at age 19
        (), Carl/19, Woodrow/16, Lewis/15, Henry/10, Juanita/8, Lorraine/5+1m
        NOTE: from below, it appears that both George & Anna were married before

        1920 Falls, Fayette, WV (all marked as White born WV:WV:WV)
        Childers, George G, head 45 married Laborer, Saw Mill
        (), Anna M, wife 38 married
        (), Jessy W/14, Carl H/9, Lewis B/5 (3 sons)
        Pollin(?), Garrett C/15, Justen F/12, Woodrow W/6 (3 stepsons)
        Childers, George H/son/7m

        This looks like a match -
        World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
        Name: George Garden Childers
        Address: Dixie, Nicholas, W Va
        Birth Date: 14 Dec 1876
        Race: White
        Occupation: Laborer, Coal Co
        Nearest Relative: Annie Childers (same address)
        Registered: 12 Sept 1918

        This is Anna's first marriage - not sure which spelling is correct -
        1910 Falls, Fayette, WV (all marked as White born WV:WV:WV)
        Pullim(?), James F, head 27 married.1 8 yrs coal miner
        (), Annie M, wife 23 married.1 8 yrs; 4 children 3 living
        (), John/7, Garret/5, Justen/2

        You indicated a George and Snow Childers - here's such a couple -
        1910 Bills, Putnam, WV (all marked as White born WV:WV:WV)
        Childers, George, head 33 married.1 7 yrs Farmer
        (), Snow, wife 24 married.1 7 yrs; 3 children 3 living
        (), Fonda/6, Jessie/4, Teddie/2
        NOTE: compare Jessie Childers (1910) with Jessy W Childers (1920)

        1900 Scott, Putnam, WV (all marked as White)
        Childress(?!), J Andrew/54/May1846/farmer, J Susan/43/July1856,
        - married 29 years, 14 children 10 living
        (), G George/23/Dec1876, B Wallace/16, O Minta/15,
        (), Lawson/12, D Mary/9, C Stella/6, T Bessie/5

        Looks like the same household, but a variation of the last name -
        1880 Scott, Putnam, WV
        Childers, A J/33/farmer, Susan Jane/26,
        (), Nannie E/7, Eva Ann/5, George G/4, Effal C/1

        1900 Kanawha, Fayette, WV (all marked as White)
        Rucker, Willis S, head 54 married 3 yrs born June 1846 VA:VA:VA
        (), Ellen, wife 45 married 3 yrs born May 1855; 6 children 5 living
        Newman, Snow, stepdaughter 15 born June 1885 WV:VA:WV
        Elswick, Annie/5/Gdaughter, James/4/Gson
        NOTE: interestingly, they are on same censuspage as household of
        William J/38 and Leanara?/31 Childress - a Childers relative?

        You said William & Ellen Newman - this could be them -
        1880 Mountain Cove, Fayette, WV (all marked as White)
        Newman, Wm/40:VA:VA:VA/coalminer, Ellen/28:WV:VA:WV,
        (), Beola/5, Annie L/4, Mattie E/2

        You said Ellen Pitzer daughter of George Martha Ann Pitzer -
        1870 Second Creek, Monroe, WV
        Pitzer, George/46, Martha A/41, Ellen/18,
        (), Thomas J/16, Mary J/14, Alfred V/9, George A/8, Elizabeth/3

        - Tom Knox


        --- In genealogyresearchclub, Chris sparks <cynthia_sparks2002@...> wrote:
        >
        > Looking for help with the following people. This is the only info I have on them. I think maybe Newman was a Native American Name because Irene (SnowFlake) Newman, No. 4, was told to be full blooded Cherokee. Any help with these Newmans is appreciated.
        >  
        > Carl and Helen in red are my grandparents. 
        >  
        > Descendants of Samuel Newman
        >
        > 1 Samuel Newman
        >        +Laura Williams
        >             Father: Samuel Williams Mother: Indian wife, no known name
        > 2 Ernest Newman
        >       +Ruth Walker 
        >             Father: Charles (Charlie) Walker Mother: Pheobe Hudson
        > 3 William Newman
        >       +Ellen Lilybelle Pitzer
        >             Father: George Pitzer Mother: Martha Ann Fury b: January 20, 1875
        > 4 Irene (Snow Flake) Newman d: March 1988
        >       +George G. Childers
        >             Father: Andrew Jackson Childers d: August 1964 Mother: Susan Jane Rippetoe b: December 18, 1876
        >   5 Carl Hugheston Childers d: March 1983 in Belva,WV b: June 11, 1910
        >        +Helen Janese Taylor
        >              Father: Roy Marshall Taylor Mother: Emma Belle Odell b: May 06, 1919 in Wyndal,WV
        > Chris
        >
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      • Chris sparks
        Yes this is my family. All but Anna Pullen. George s second wife. Thank you. Chris ... From: Bloodhound (genealogy); Kermit (alt.nick)
        Message 3 of 3 , Sep 24, 2009
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          Yes this is my family. All but Anna Pullen. George's second wife. Thank you.
          Chris

          --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Bloodhound (genealogy); Kermit (alt.nick) <tomknox2001@...> wrote:


          From: Bloodhound (genealogy); Kermit (alt.nick) <tomknox2001@...>
          Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] Re: Help with The Newman Family
          To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 1:50 PM


           



          Chris -

          Here's Carl H Childers with father George -

          1930 Falls, Fayette, WV (all marked as White born WV:WV:WV)
          Childers, George, head 53 married at age 26 laborer, coal mine
          (), Anna, wife 47 married at age 19
          (), Carl/19, Woodrow/16, Lewis/15, Henry/10, Juanita/8, Lorraine/5+1m
          NOTE: from below, it appears that both George & Anna were married before

          1920 Falls, Fayette, WV (all marked as White born WV:WV:WV)
          Childers, George G, head 45 married Laborer, Saw Mill
          (), Anna M, wife 38 married
          (), Jessy W/14, Carl H/9, Lewis B/5 (3 sons)
          Pollin(?), Garrett C/15, Justen F/12, Woodrow W/6 (3 stepsons)
          Childers, George H/son/7m

          This looks like a match -
          World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
          Name: George Garden Childers
          Address: Dixie, Nicholas, W Va
          Birth Date: 14 Dec 1876
          Race: White
          Occupation: Laborer, Coal Co
          Nearest Relative: Annie Childers (same address)
          Registered: 12 Sept 1918

          This is Anna's first marriage - not sure which spelling is correct -
          1910 Falls, Fayette, WV (all marked as White born WV:WV:WV)
          Pullim(?), James F, head 27 married.1 8 yrs coal miner
          (), Annie M, wife 23 married.1 8 yrs; 4 children 3 living
          (), John/7, Garret/5, Justen/2

          You indicated a George and Snow Childers - here's such a couple -
          1910 Bills, Putnam, WV (all marked as White born WV:WV:WV)
          Childers, George, head 33 married.1 7 yrs Farmer
          (), Snow, wife 24 married.1 7 yrs; 3 children 3 living
          (), Fonda/6, Jessie/4, Teddie/2
          NOTE: compare Jessie Childers (1910) with Jessy W Childers (1920)

          1900 Scott, Putnam, WV (all marked as White)
          Childress(?! ), J Andrew/54/May1846/ farmer, J Susan/43/July1856,
          - married 29 years, 14 children 10 living
          (), G George/23/Dec1876, B Wallace/16, O Minta/15,
          (), Lawson/12, D Mary/9, C Stella/6, T Bessie/5

          Looks like the same household, but a variation of the last name -
          1880 Scott, Putnam, WV
          Childers, A J/33/farmer, Susan Jane/26,
          (), Nannie E/7, Eva Ann/5, George G/4, Effal C/1

          1900 Kanawha, Fayette, WV (all marked as White)
          Rucker, Willis S, head 54 married 3 yrs born June 1846 VA:VA:VA
          (), Ellen, wife 45 married 3 yrs born May 1855; 6 children 5 living
          Newman, Snow, stepdaughter 15 born June 1885 WV:VA:WV
          Elswick, Annie/5/Gdaughter, James/4/Gson
          NOTE: interestingly, they are on same censuspage as household of
          William J/38 and Leanara?/31 Childress - a Childers relative?

          You said William & Ellen Newman - this could be them -
          1880 Mountain Cove, Fayette, WV (all marked as White)
          Newman, Wm/40:VA:VA: VA/coalminer, Ellen/28:WV: VA:WV,
          (), Beola/5, Annie L/4, Mattie E/2

          You said Ellen Pitzer daughter of George Martha Ann Pitzer -
          1870 Second Creek, Monroe, WV
          Pitzer, George/46, Martha A/41, Ellen/18,
          (), Thomas J/16, Mary J/14, Alfred V/9, George A/8, Elizabeth/3

          - Tom Knox


          --- In genealogyresearchcl ub, Chris sparks <cynthia_sparks2002 @...> wrote:
          >
          > Looking for help with the following people. This is the only info I have on them. I think maybe Newman was a Native American Name because Irene (SnowFlake) Newman, No. 4, was told to be full blooded Cherokee. Any help with these Newmans is appreciated.
          >  
          > Carl and Helen in red are my grandparents. 
          >  
          > Descendants of Samuel Newman
          >
          > 1 Samuel Newman
          >        +Laura Williams
          >             Father: Samuel Williams Mother: Indian wife, no known name
          > 2 Ernest Newman
          >       +Ruth Walker 
          >             Father: Charles (Charlie) Walker Mother: Pheobe Hudson
          > 3 William Newman
          >       +Ellen Lilybelle Pitzer
          >             Father: George Pitzer Mother: Martha Ann Fury b: January 20, 1875
          > 4 Irene (Snow Flake) Newman d: March 1988
          >       +George G. Childers
          >             Father: Andrew Jackson Childers d: August 1964 Mother: Susan Jane Rippetoe b: December 18, 1876
          >   5 Carl Hugheston Childers d: March 1983 in Belva,WV b: June 11, 1910
          >        +Helen Janese Taylor
          >              Father: Roy Marshall Taylor Mother: Emma Belle Odell b: May 06, 1919 in Wyndal,WV
          > Chris
          >
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