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Re: [genealogie-limburg] Pieters/Pieterse, Mersen, Limburg

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  • W. Brassé
    Here you are :-)! Meerssen put me off-track: Geulle had its own church. Elizabethae Pochenerin was from Germany ( hoogduits ), Peter was nicknamed t
    Message 1 of 7 , Sep 19, 2008
      Here you are :-)!

      Meerssen put me off-track: Geulle had its own church.

      Elizabethae Pochenerin was from Germany ('hoogduits'), Peter was nicknamed
      ''t Leemkuyken'. He was an ex-soldier. They lived on the Hussenberg in
      Geulle and owned a house and courtyard worth 160 guilders.


      Kerkelijk huwelijk Geulle 08-01-1696
      Bruidegom Michiel Peters
      Bruid Anna Elisabeth Stevens

      Doop Geulle 02-02-1696
      Dopeling Joannes Peters
      Vader van de dopeling Michaelis Peters
      Moeder van de dopeling Elisabethae Stevens
      Doopgetuige Idae Hoecheijn
      Doopgetuige Adamus Heppers
      Vervangende doopgetuige Catharina Geusen

      Doop Geulle 05-06-1697
      Dopeling Petrus Peters
      Vader van de dopeling Michaelis Peters
      Moeder van de dopeling Elisabethae Stevens
      Doopgetuige Maria Vrancken
      Doopgetuige Leonardi Cortleven
      Vervangende doopgetuige Joannes Lonis

      Doop Geulle 13-05-1699
      Dopeling Arnoldus Peters
      Vader van de dopeling Michaelis Peters
      Moeder van de dopeling Elisabethae Stevens
      Doopgetuige Maria Jansen
      Doopgetuige Antonü Cabo

      Begraven Geulle - -1699
      Overledene Elisabetha Stevens

      Kerkelijk huwelijk Geulle 29-04-1703
      Bruidegom Geil Peters
      Bruid Petronella Hooghoim

      Doop Geulle 16-10-1703
      Dopeling Catharina Peters
      Vader van de dopeling Michaelis Peters
      Moeder van de dopeling Petronellae Hoecheijn
      Doopgetuige Gerardus Stevens
      Doopgetuige Gertrudis Bours

      Doop Geulle 01-03-1705
      Dopeling Maria Peters
      Vader van de dopeling Michaelis Peters
      Moeder van de dopeling Petronellae Hoecheijn
      Doopgetuige Matthias Stevens
      Doopgetuige Maria Hoecheijn

      Doop Geulle 20-06-1706
      Dopeling Gertrudis Peters
      Vader van de dopeling Michaelis Peters
      Moeder van de dopeling Petronellae Hoecheijn
      Doopgetuige Elisabetha Tilmans
      Doopgetuige Servatius Pipers

      Doop Geulle 05-10-1710
      Dopeling Mechtildis Peeters
      Vader van de dopeling Michaelis Peeters
      Moeder van de dopeling Petronellae Hoogheijnen
      Doopgetuige Dionijsius Cathagen
      Doopgetuige Eva Damen

      Begraven Geulle 04-02-1732
      Overledene Michael Peeters

      Begraven Geulle 11-06-1747
      Overledene Petronella Hoogheijnen

      Doop Geulle 25-03-1750
      Dopeling Michael Peeters
      Vader van de dopeling Arnoldi Peeters
      Moeder van de dopeling Idae Pijpers
      Doopgetuige Anna Pijpers
      Doopgetuige Caspar Janssen

      Begraven Geulle 10-05-1758
      Overledene Michael Peeters
      --------------------------------
      Doop Geulle 26-03-1730
      Dopeling Petrus Peeters
      Vader van de dopeling Petri Peeters
      Moeder van de dopeling Catharinae Rutten
      Doopgetuige Elizabetha Rutten
      Doopgetuige Arnoldi Peeters
      Vervangende doopgetuige Conrardus Paulissen

      Begraven Geulle - -1746
      Overledene Petrus Peeters

      (Cannot find further data on this couple! Could be an illegitimate child???)
      --------------------------------
      Kerkelijk huwelijk Geulle 30-08-1761
      Bruidegom Peter Peters
      Bruid Elisabeth Puggeners

      Kerkelijk huwelijk Geulle 31-08-1761
      Bruidegom Petrus Peeters
      Bruid Elizabetha Pochenerin
      Getuige bij het huwelijk Barbarâ Raeven
      Getuige bij het huwelijk Cornelio Bours

      Doop Geulle 05-07-1762
      Dopeling Joannes Petrus Peeters
      Vader van de dopeling Petri Peeters
      Moeder van de dopeling Elizabethae Pochenerin
      Doopgetuige Lucia Philippens
      Doopgetuige Joannes Janssen

      Doop Geulle 03-09-1763
      Dopeling Joannes Henricus Peeters
      Vader van de dopeling Petri Peeters
      Moeder van de dopeling Elizabethae Pochenerin
      Doopgetuige Elizabethae Rutten
      Doopgetuige Joannis Henrici Josephi Poreth
      Vervangende doopgetuige Joannes Paulissen
      Vervangende doopgetuige Catharina Doutsenberg

      Doop Geulle 30-12-1763
      Dopeling Maria Barbara Luijten
      Vader van de dopeling Servatii Luijten
      Moeder van de dopeling Corneliae Janssen
      Doopgetuige Joannes Pluis
      Doopgetuige Elizabetha Pochenerin

      Doop Geulle 18-11-1765
      Dopeling Joannes Petrus Peeters
      Vader van de dopeling Petri Peeters
      Moeder van de dopeling Elizabethae Pochenerin
      Doopgetuige Annae Gertrudis Wolters
      Doopgetuige Joannis Brits
      Vervangende doopgetuige Ida Pijpers
      Vervangende doopgetuige Joannes Paulissen

      Doop Geulle 14-04-1767
      Dopeling Michael Peeters
      Vader van de dopeling Petri Peeters
      Moeder van de dopeling Elizabethae Pochenerin
      Doopgetuige Michael Philippens
      Doopgetuige Maria Lentjens

      Doop Geulle 20-05-1769
      Dopeling Bernardus Peeters
      Vader van de dopeling Petri Peeters
      Moeder van de dopeling Elizabethae Pochenerin
      Doopgetuige Cornelia Janssen
      Doopgetuige Reinerus Frissen

      Doop Geulle 05-09-1771
      Dopeling Matthias Peeters
      Vader van de dopeling Petri Peeters
      Moeder van de dopeling Elizabethae Pochenerin
      Doopgetuige Ida Pijpers
      Doopgetuige Matthias Luwet

      Begraven Geulle 04-12-1792
      Overledene Elizabetha Pochenerin
      Echtgen. van de overledene Petri Peeters


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <rdpiet@...>
      To: <genealogie-limburg@yahoogroups.com>
      Cc: <w.brasse@...>
      Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:09 PM
      Subject: Re: [genealogie-limburg] Pieters/Pieterse, Mersen, Limburg


      Thanks for your response. MY 6th Grandfather went to the gallows
      on
      8 Oct 1773 (typed the wrong date in my initial post) at >
      > heerlijkeid Op de Bergh nearby Elsloo for being one of those
      > Bookenrijder
      > type fellows.
      >
      > I also have his wifes nawe as Elizabeth Pouchelarin and I am
      > really not sure which one is correct.. I just suspect she died
      > in
      > Guelle but I have never been able to prove that.


      What I am trying to do is go back further on my line and
      anything you can find out would be greatly appreciated.

      Have a great afternoon. Bob

      Pieter Pieters (26 Mar 1730 - 8 Oct 1773( married Elizabeth
      Roogenaars (b 1740 ??? - 4 Oct 1792)

      Sorry, Gendawin only has death entries for Meerssen before 1800. Roogenaars
      is unknown on it. They did not die in Meerssen, did they?
      I will check the Meerssen alphabetic index next week at work.

      Cheers,
      Wil Brassé


















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    • rdpiet@aol.com
      Thank you very much for the information Wil, I really appreciate your time and effort to give me this additional information. If you
      Message 2 of 7 , Sep 19, 2008
        Thank you very much for the information Wil, I really appreciate
        your time and effort to give me this additional information.

        If you need any information on anyone in the United Sates please
        ask.

        KInd reagrds, Bob Pieterse


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      • W. Brassé
        Here is one more: The Godmother of the first child was Ida Hoecheijn. I am fairly sure she is the child s grandmother: Kerkelijk huwelijk Beek 12-06-1667
        Message 3 of 7 , Sep 19, 2008
          Here is one more:
          The Godmother of the first child was Ida Hoecheijn. I am fairly sure she is
          the child's grandmother:

          Kerkelijk huwelijk Beek 12-06-1667
          Bruidegom Peter Peters
          Bruid Idjen Hoogheins
          (young man and young daughter, both from Geul; this is the required
          protestant marriage)

          Kerkelijk huwelijk Geulle 05-07-1667
          Bruidegom Petrus Peters
          Bruid Ida Hogheijns
          Getuige bij het huwelijk Petro Hogheijns
          Getuige bij het huwelijk Slans Vel Hans
          (this is the catholic marriage)

          Begraven Geulle - -1701
          Overledene Petrus Peters

          I cannot find their or their children's baptisms on the CD...

          Good luck Mr. Pieterse!
          Wil Brassé in Sittard

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: <rdpiet@...>
          To: <genealogie-limburg@yahoogroups.com>; <w.brasse@...>
          Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:23 PM
          Subject: Re: [genealogie-limburg] Pieters/Pieterse, Mersen, Limburg


          Thank you very much for the information Wil, I really appreciate
          your time and effort to give me this additional information.

          If you need any information on anyone in the United Sates please
          ask.

          KInd reagrds, Bob Pieterse
        • W. Brassé
          Last message on the subject: Your ancestors are also listed on the Bokkenrijders website here: http://www.xs4all.nl/~johnve/kind4/kind401.htm#419 For others
          Message 4 of 7 , Sep 19, 2008
            Last message on the subject:
            Your ancestors are also listed on the "Bokkenrijders" website here:
            http://www.xs4all.nl/~johnve/kind4/kind401.htm#419

            For others who may be interested in the descendance, I suspect that
            Catharina Rutten was not married to Petrus Peters:

            Catharina Rutten was baptised in Geulle and had one child with another man.
            Of this couple there are also no further data, which makes me suspicious
            that both her children may have been born out of wedlock.

            The midwife always tried to obtain the name of the child's father when the
            unmarried woman was in labor. The father should be made to pay for child
            support.
            If its father was known, the child would usually keep his last name.

            Doop Geulle 30-08-1708
            Dopeling Catharina Rutten
            Vader van de dopeling Bernardi Rutten
            Moeder van de dopeling Catharinae Geusen
            Doopgetuige Gertrudis Schreurs
            Doopgetuige Michael Peters

            Doop Geulle 12-05-1739
            Dopeling Maria Lahey
            Vader van de dopeling Christiani Laheij
            Moeder van de dopeling Catharinae Rutten
            Doopgetuige Cornelü Rutten
            Doopgetuige Maria Gelissen
            Vervangende doopgetuige Hermannus Paulissen

            Begraven Geulle 28-09-1746
            Overledene Maria Laheij


            Wil Brassé

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "W. Brassé" <w.brasse@...>
            To: <genealogie-limburg@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 6:05 PM
            Subject: Re: [genealogie-limburg] Pieters/Pieterse, Mersen, Limburg


            Here is one more:
            The Godmother of the first child was Ida Hoecheijn. I am fairly sure she is
            the child's grandmother:

            Kerkelijk huwelijk Beek 12-06-1667
            Bruidegom Peter Peters
            Bruid Idjen Hoogheins
            (young man and young daughter, both from Geul; this is the required
            protestant marriage)

            Kerkelijk huwelijk Geulle 05-07-1667
            Bruidegom Petrus Peters
            Bruid Ida Hogheijns
            Getuige bij het huwelijk Petro Hogheijns
            Getuige bij het huwelijk Slans Vel Hans
            (this is the catholic marriage)

            Begraven Geulle - -1701
            Overledene Petrus Peters

            I cannot find their or their children's baptisms on the CD...

            Good luck Mr. Pieterse!
            Wil Brassé in Sittard

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: <rdpiet@...>
            To: <genealogie-limburg@yahoogroups.com>; <w.brasse@...>
            Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:23 PM
            Subject: Re: [genealogie-limburg] Pieters/Pieterse, Mersen, Limburg


            Thank you very much for the information Wil, I really appreciate
            your time and effort to give me this additional information.

            If you need any information on anyone in the United Sates please
            ask.

            KInd reagrds, Bob Pieterse
          • rdpiet@aol.com
            Wil, I received the additional messages you sent to me direct on my Pieterse ancestors. Thanks you very much for the additional
            Message 5 of 7 , Oct 13, 2008
              Wil, I received the additional messages you sent to me direct on
              my Pieterse ancestors. Thanks you very much for the additional
              information.

              Bib Pieterse


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