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  • Paul Gohranson
    Although I must agree with a lot of his assessment of the United States, and it embarrasses me how much anger our government in the United States has caused
    Message 1 of 4 , Dec 14, 2004
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      Although I must agree with a lot of his assessment of the United States, and it embarrasses me how much anger our government in the United States has caused not only here in America but around the world. I have, as an American, been in love with Australia all my life and have always wanted to live there. Unfortunately, to many countries have followed Americas, mis-lead. Just because America did good things in the past, doesn’t give them the right to rule the world the way a few feel fit to do. Remember, if Bush won this election fairly, which is now in doubt, you must remember something even more telling is he now holds the record for having the most people ever vote against an incumbent president. He has no mandate!

       

      My point is not to bash my own country though, I am just passionate about how badly it has turned here, but J has somewhere gotten the idea that the gay kingdom was started my a bunch of Americans who hate Australia? This is not true? Believe me if there were an island here we could annex like Hawaii maybe LOL! We would. However, I do believe America would turn its tanks on us where I don’t quite believe that of Australia. J you must understand this country was started by Australians, and is being helped out by gay people around the world! That includes me. I hope you are on board because settling for just a few freedoms is not enough. Remember Australian troops are in Iraq as well. Against there will as are our troops. But what can you do? You cant force anyone to like you so lets go somewhere where we can like ourselves!

       

      Hope this helps.

       

      Paul….

       

      -----Original Message-----
      From: beachboy_surfers [mailto:daleanderson1@...]
      Sent:
      Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:50 AM
      To: gaykingdom@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [gaykingdom] Aussie Head

       


      Mate, all the members of the gay legislative assembly
      (government) are Australian, the head of state is Australian, but we
      want the GLK to be open to everyone, please do not be so harsh about
      America, if it wasn't for them you and me and the rest of Australia
      would be ruled by Japan, as the battle of the Coral Sea where the
      GLK is located was won by them in World War 2 preventing the
      Japanese from invading the Commonwealth so be thank full to them. 





    • R. Mitchell Deighan
      ... Re: [gaykingdom] Aussie Head Paul, Just realized something I should have been more aware of: my feelings about Philadelphia (where I live and have worked
      Message 2 of 4 , Dec 14, 2004
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        Re: [gaykingdom] Aussie Head
        Paul,
        Just realized something I should have been more aware of:
        my feelings about Philadelphia (where I live and have worked as an activist for many years) are now so laden with disgust, and the integrity of the civic process is now at a most pathetic level.  At least HALF the battles I’ve fought or helped fight have been against our corrupt “city hall”.
        And there’s no fuckin’ end to it, they act like it’s business as usual.

        So, I’m wondering what the weather is like on Cato..?  Is there any way for us to get some info on this part?

        Mitch

        Although I must agree with a lot of his assessment of the United States, and it embarrasses me how much anger our government in the United States has caused not only here in America but around the world. I have, as an American, been in love with Australia all my life and have always wanted to live there. Unfortunately, to many countries have followed Americas, mis-lead. Just because America did good things in the past, doesn’t give them the right to rule the world the way a few feel fit to do. Remember, if Bush won this election fairly, which is now in doubt, you must remember something even more telling is he now holds the record for having the most people ever vote against an incumbent president. He has no mandate!



        My point is not to bash my own country though, I am just passionate about how badly it has turned here, but J has somewhere gotten the idea that the gay kingdom was started my a bunch of Americans who hate Australia? This is not true? Believe me if there were an island here we could annex like Hawaii maybe LOL! We would. However, I do believe America would turn its tanks on us where I don’t quite believe that of Australia. J you must understand this country was started by Australians, and is being helped out by gay people around the world! That includes me. I hope you are on board because settling for just a few freedoms is not enough. Remember Australian troops are in Iraq as well. Against there will as are our troops. But what can you do? You cant force anyone to like you so lets go somewhere where we can like ourselves!



        Hope this helps.



        Paul….



        -----Original Message-----
        From: beachboy_surfers [mailto:daleanderson1@...]
        Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:50 AM
        To: gaykingdom@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [gaykingdom] Aussie Head




        Mate, all the members of the gay legislative assembly
        (government) are Australian, the head of state is Australian, but we
        want the GLK to be open to everyone, please do not be so harsh about
        America, if it wasn't for them you and me and the rest of Australia
        would be ruled by Japan, as the battle of the Coral Sea where the
        GLK is located was won by them in World War 2 preventing the
        Japanese from invading the Commonwealth so be thank full to them.  






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      • Paul Gohranson
        I am not sure who you are? But you are obviously confused! I do not own this group, so therefore I can not ban you from it. I would be totally against banning
        Message 3 of 4 , Dec 17, 2004
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          I am not sure who you are? But you are obviously confused! I do not own
          this group, so therefore I can not ban you from it. I would be totally
          against banning your opinion and would welcome the debate! Mainly,
          because that is one of my strongest points, Free speech!

          So I am hoping that you can work this out with the owner of the group
          which is easy to find out. I would much rather trade presidents with you
          anytime! LOL!!

          Actually I was only 2 months shy of being born in Australia. I went
          there when I was 2 months old and then again when I was 7 so yes I have
          been there.

          Everybody who knows me my friends in Canada who are afraid to come here
          because of backlash, my friends in Italy, and Spain for the same reasons
          and your Country, whom I have many friends, all know that I am ashamed
          of what my country has done in the past few years. So your label is not
          one that I will accept! No one I have ever met has been more a defender
          of free speech than me. It has gotten me in trouble many a time! That's
          why I find it so amusing you would accuse me of such a thing? :)

          I hope that this sets things straight! So to speak!

          Sincerely

          Paul...


          Paul!
          -----Original Message-----
          From: P R [mailto:aussihead4you@...]
          Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 8:41 PM
          To: daleanderson1@...; todd_m_rogers@...;
          paul_m_gohranson@...
          Subject: RE: [gaykingdom] Aussie Head

          Hey again Paul,

          I am shocked and surprised that you have banned me
          from the group.

          Man, don't you see, your actions are what is endemic
          in the United States, and what is so wrong with it.
          What happened to FREEDOM OF SPEECH? George Bush said
          "If you're not with us you're against us" - which is
          such a load of crud - and is the speak of every
          oppressive nation in the world! And your actions in
          banning me for expressing a view is the same - I hope
          you can see this.!? Your first letter to me, I thought
          this is a guy with some Brains, perhaps there is hope
          for the United States, but then I find, for the
          "crime" of expressing my opinion - I am banned.

          Mate to be honest, you state that you've always wanted
          to live here ( I presume you haven't been down here )
          - I have been to the United States more than 50 times
          in the past 20 years. Let me tell you, if you don't
          like people expressing their views freely, you would
          HATE it down here...fortunately we're still a secular
          nation where active debate is encouraged, and
          differing points of view are embraced. The people of
          the United States (including my best friend) are
          suffocating under an avalanche of mis-information,
          propaganda, religious fanaticism and a fear that
          speaking one's mind about things that are wrong will
          result in you being labelled un-american. Believe me,
          if the mentality in your country doesn't change, your
          society is doomed! Which is a shame, because you are
          such an amazing race of people - On Thursday, I'm
          boarding a Boeing 747 to take me to the USA - American
          Genius built these planes, I'm an amateur astronomer,
          and am in awe at what you've done with the space
          program - yet when it comes to simple things like
          realising that human breasts on television are not
          things a nation should go into hysterics about, but
          the poverty in your country, the murder rate in your
          country and the illegal slaughter in Iraq ARE the
          things that should get you upset....!!

          Merry CHRISTMAS & Happy 2005.

          --- Paul Gohranson <paul_m_gohranson@...>
          wrote:

          > Although I must agree with a lot of his assessment
          > of the United States,
          > and it embarrasses me how much anger our government
          > in the United States
          > has caused not only here in America but around the
          > world. I have, as an
          > American, been in love with Australia all my life
          > and have always wanted
          > to live there. Unfortunately, to many countries have
          > followed Americas,
          > mis-lead. Just because America did good things in
          > the past, doesn't give
          > them the right to rule the world the way a few feel
          > fit to do. Remember,
          > if Bush won this election fairly, which is now in
          > doubt, you must
          > remember something even more telling is he now holds
          > the record for
          > having the most people ever vote against an
          > incumbent president. He has
          > no mandate!
          >
          > My point is not to bash my own country though, I am
          > just passionate
          > about how badly it has turned here, but J has
          > somewhere gotten the idea
          > that the gay kingdom was started my a bunch of
          > Americans who hate
          > Australia? This is not true? Believe me if there
          > were an island here we
          > could annex like Hawaii maybe LOL! We would.
          > However, I do believe
          > America would turn its tanks on us where I don't
          > quite believe that of
          > Australia. J you must understand this country was
          > started by
          > Australians, and is being helped out by gay people
          > around the world!
          > That includes me. I hope you are on board because
          > settling for just a
          > few freedoms is not enough. Remember Australian
          > troops are in Iraq as
          > well. Against there will as are our troops. But what
          > can you do? You
          > cant force anyone to like you so lets go somewhere
          > where we can like
          > ourselves!
          >
          > Hope this helps.
          >
          > Paul..
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: beachboy_surfers
          > [mailto:daleanderson1@...]
          > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:50 AM
          > To: gaykingdom@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: [gaykingdom] Aussie Head
          >
          >
          > Mate, all the members of the gay legislative
          > assembly
          > (government) are Australian, the head of state is
          > Australian, but we
          > want the GLK to be open to everyone, please do not
          > be so harsh about
          > America, if it wasn't for them you and me and the
          > rest of Australia
          > would be ruled by Japan, as the battle of the Coral
          > Sea where the
          > GLK is located was won by them in World War 2
          > preventing the
          > Japanese from invading the Commonwealth so be thank
          > full to them.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
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        • yank_canuck
          ... How interesting... possibly karmic. My sire was one of the men in the US B-52 s who flew in the Pacific theater. yankie
          Message 4 of 4 , Dec 19, 2004
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            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: beachboy_surfers [mailto:daleanderson1@o...]
            > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:50 AM
            > To: gaykingdom@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: [gaykingdom] Aussie Head
            >
            >
            > Mate, all the members of the gay legislative assembly
            > (government) are Australian, the head of state is Australian, but we
            > want the GLK to be open to everyone, please do not be so harsh about
            > America, if it wasn't for them you and me and the rest of Australia
            > would be ruled by Japan, as the battle of the Coral Sea where the
            > GLK is located was won by them in World War 2 preventing the
            > Japanese from invading the Commonwealth so be thank full to them.


            How interesting... possibly karmic. My sire was one of the men in the US
            B-52's who flew in the Pacific theater.
            yankie
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