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  • dupont3@juno.com
    Come on! There is no authoritarian government in Gabon. Gabon is a stable country with the most capable leader elected a majority of the people.Frauds like
    Message 1 of 10 , Jan 30, 2011
      Come on! There is no authoritarian government in Gabon. Gabon is a stable country with the most capable leader elected a majority of the people.Frauds like Obame can rally some supporters But the will of the people does not want that type of person running the country. At the end of the day Gabon is better off with Ali Bongo and the skills he brinGs to the job. When a more capable leader that can earn the respect of the people comes along then we can talk about that intelligently but let's not talk about revolution like it is some type of fad that comes and goes. Let's not prop up some phony with bad ideas cause of a corrupt need to change the players and gain power.


      ---------- Original Message ----------
      From: landry lig <landry_lig@...>
      To: gabondiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [Gabon Discussion] Re: why a revolution is needed in Gabon?
      Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:34:52 -0800 (PST)


      Gabonese (in and outside Gabon) will determine their own fate I do agree. But
      to suggest that Gabonese do not need any outside help is to suggest that French
      people (Lafayette and Louis XVI) did not have to help the Americans during the
      American Revolution. Where do you think the Gabonese (in Gabon) will find the
      resources to defeat the current authoritarian government? Yes, a "Thomas
      Jefferson" could have emerged in Gabon with a support from outside Gabon.




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      From: bobutne <bobutne@...>
      To: gabondiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 9:33:05 AM
      Subject: [Gabon Discussion] Re: why a revolution is needed in Gabon?


      Gabonese (in Gabon) are going to determine their own fate regardless of what
      their expat community preaches from abroad. Also, they do not need the French,
      Chinese, Americans, etc. butting in as they normally do. Will a "Thomas
      Jefferson" emerge in Gabon?


      --- In gabondiscussion@yahoogroups.com, landry lig <landry_lig@...> wrote:
      >
      > A great American president drafted the following words: “We hold these truths
      >to
      >
      > be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their
      >
      > Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and
      >
      > the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are
      > instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the
      > governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these
      > ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute
      >
      > new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its
      > powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety
      > and happiness. ”
      >
      > We are convinced that when Thomas Jefferson drafted these words, he knew that
      > all man were equal in the eyes of God.
      > The Gabonese people are fighting today for the same unalienable rights (life,
      > liberty and the pursuit of happiness). The Gabonese people know that the
      > American people fought for these unalienable rights during the American
      > Revolution against the mighty British Empire and France fought during the
      >French
      >
      > Revolution against the French monarchy.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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    • François Gouahinga
      As predicted: Gabon: affrontements entre étudiants et gendarmes à Libreville Pneus enflammés devant l université Omar Bongo de Libreville où des
      Message 2 of 10 , Feb 10, 2011
        As predicted:

        Gabon: affrontements entre étudiants et gendarmes à Libreville




        Pneus enflammés devant l'université Omar Bongo de Libreville où des étudiants ont manifesté le 10 février 2011
        © AFP Wils Yanick Maniengui

        LIBREVILLE (AFP) -
        jeudi 10 février 2011 - 15h39
        - Des affrontements
        entre étudiants, réclamant le paiement de leurs bourses, et gendarmes
        ont débuté jeudi à l'université Omar Bongo (UOB) de Libreville.

        Les
        jeunes, retranchés dans l'UOB, ont lancé des cailloux et autres
        projectiles sur les forces de l'ordre qui ont répondu par de nombreux
        tirs de grenades lacrymogène.Il y a eu au moins trois blessés légers parmi les étudiants atteints par des éclats de grenade, a constaté l'AFP.
        Les
        étudiants réclament le paiement de leurs bourses: environ la moitié des
        17.000 étudiants de l'université touchent une bourse de 66.000 F CFA
        (100 euros). Celles-ci n'ont pas été payées depuis sept mois, ont
        affirmé plusieurs manifestants à l'AFP. Selon un étudiant, seuls les
        nouveaux bacheliers ont touché leur dû.
        Les
        étudiants ont décidé d'un gel des cours en assemblée générale dans la
        matinée et ont ensuite voulu "monter une barricade" sur l'avenue devant
        l'université: "On voulait montrer notre mécontentement. C'est la seule
        manière de nous faire entendre", a affirmé l'un d'entre eux sous couvert
        de l'anonymat
        Ils ont été délogés par les gendarmes et les affrontements ont continué pendant l'après-midi.
        Les
        étudiants réclament aussi de meilleures conditions d'études et
        notamment la rénovation des bâtiments, des sanitaires ainsi que plus
        d'enseignants. "L'université est un dépotoir. Les bâtiments s'écroulent,
        les tables sont cassées, les effectifs sont pléthoriques. Certains font
        cours debout", a affirmé un autre.
        Certains
        demandent aussi la "réintégration" des trois professeurs sympathisants
        de l'Union nationale (UN) du président autoproclamé du Gabon André Mba
        Obame. Ces trois enseignants font partie du "gouvernement" de l'UN et
        sont réfugiés depuis l'autoprolamation au siège d'une agence onusienne
        de Libreville.
        En
        févier 2010, des affrontements entre étudiants et gendarmes avaient fait
        une vingtaine de blessés dont un grave. les étudiants avaient reçu
        leurs bourses quelques jours plus tard.

        --- En date de : Ven 28.1.11, François Gouahinga <gouaf@...> a écrit :

        De: François Gouahinga <gouaf@...>
        Objet: [Gabon Discussion] Re : Gabon copycat revolution fails
        À: gabondiscussion@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Vendredi 28 janvier 2011, 22h53







         









        Don't count us out just yet. Turn your ears towards OB University. Big storm's brewing.



        --- En date de : Ven 28.1.11, bobutne <bobutne@...> a écrit :



        De: bobutne <bobutne@...>

        Objet: [Gabon Discussion] Gabon copycat revolution fails

        À: gabondiscussion@yahoogroups.com

        Date: Vendredi 28 janvier 2011, 21h35



         



        afrol News, 28 January - An attempt by Gabon's opposition leader André Mba Obame to stage a revolution inspired by Tunisia and the chaos in Côte d'Ivoire has failed to gather enough popular and international support.



        The National Union party was only founded in Libreville in March last year and legalised in April, uniting many of Gabon's main opposition parties. Party president Zacharie Myboto already before the Union's legalisation had to struggle with its upcoming leader André Mba Obame.



        Mr Obame was known as a loose shot as he warned about a possible coup in Gabon, causing a police investigation and a delay in the new party's legalisation.



        On Tuesday, Mr Obame made another unexpected move as he declared himself "President of Gabon," claiming he had won the August 2009 presidential election in the country. Mr Obame in 2009 had stood as an independent candidate, losing out to interim President Ali Bongo in a rather unfair election.



        The opposition leader made the statement on air on the television broadcaster TV+, owned by himself. He took the oath as Gabon's President and named a parallel cabinet of 19 ministers, 17 months after the 2009 elections.



        Angered by the surprise statement and unconstitutional act, President Bongo disbanded the National Union party and sent out security forces to arrest Mr Obame.



        But the opposition leader managed to flee and took refuge in the Libreville offices of the UN. From here, he has sought the UN and the international community to accept him as the lawful President of Gabon - leaning onto the chaotic situation in Côte d'Ivoire, where the UN acknowledges Alassane Ouattara as the rightful leader despite President Laurent Gbagbo's reluctance to step down.



        Also from his UN refuge, Mr Obame managed to mobilise hundreds of his supporters in protest marches, hoping to copy the popular revolution in Tunisia. Protesters yesterday gathered in front of the UN offices, urging for the international recognition of Mr Obame as Gabon's leader.



        While the Bongo regime is both undemocratic and authoritarian, Gabon's similarities with Tunisia and Côte d'Ivoire stopped there. For Gabonese police troops, it was an easy match to disperse the anti-government protesters with tear gas yesterday. Today, there have been no signs of new protest marches.



        Also internationally, the response to Mr Obame's self-declared presidency has been a cold shoulder. No one has recognised his presidency.



        At the African Union (AU), the move rather caused irritation. AU Commission Chairman Jean Ping - himself a Gabonese citizen, said he had learned about the announcement "with surprise and concern." He reminded the Gabonese opposition that the 2009 election was held "in the presence of international observers."



        The AU urged the Gabonese opposition to rather "take pride in their contribution to the stability and respect Gabon enjoys," further urging it to "exercise restraint." Government however was asked to enter dialogue with the opposition "to strengthen its democratic process and attain socio-economic development."



        Mr Obame obtained 25 percent of the votes in the 2009 elections, according to official results, and it is widely understood that his support is not significantly larger among the Gabonese population. It may rather have fallen after the surprise announcement of his presidency.



        http://www.afrol.com/articles/37158



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