## Re: Hydrogen or electricity?

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• So, at this point, electricity looks like it is about 5 times less expensive than a comparable gallon of gas priced at \$2.30 per gallon. That s about what
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So, at this point, electricity looks like it is about 5 times less
expensive than a comparable gallon of gas priced at \$2.30 per gallon.
That's about what they're charging right now down the street from
where I live, for 87 Octane.

No doubt that pricing could change, but for now I guess I will try to
use that as a benchmark, so if someone were spending, say, \$46 per
week on 20 gallons of gas, at today's prices, they might be spending
about \$9.20 per week on Electricity for car fuel.... unless there's
something wrong with these calculations.

--- In evworld@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Riegert <mhotion@o...> wrote:
>
> SCE has an EV charging rate of \$0.07/KWh.....our vehicles take 40KWh of
> AC to fully charge (35KWh DC) inabling 120 mile range....
> 40KWh X \$0.07 = \$2.80/fill up divided by 120 miles = \$0.023/mile
> electric fuel cost.
> Assuming a gasoline vehicle gets 20 miles per gallon average, we can
use
> "gasoline equivalent" by multiplying cost/mile times 20....
> \$0.023/mile electric cost times 20 miles = \$0.46 per gallon "gas
> equivalent" cost for running an electric vehicle.
>
> Dan Riegert
>
> murdoch_1998 wrote:
>
> >
> > --- In evworld@yahoogroups.com, Lee Dekker <heprv@y...> wrote:
> > > There is only one transportation alternative relevant to this
> > discussion that is less
> > > expensive than petroleum. Most people don't realize it, but electric
> > transportation is
> > > already, today, less expensive per mile driven than gasoline-based
> > transportation.
> >
> > As the price of a gallon of 87 Octane gasoline creeps up past \$2.47
> > per gallon at the local corner Chevron station, I wonder if we can't
> > do a better job of developing some hard quoteable numbers for people
> > to see and consider and discuss, for comparing this price to the price
> > of electricity and the price of Hydrogen and the price of biodiesel
> > and some other competing alt-fuels.
> >
> > Comparing price per gallon doesn't seem quite right, because a gallon
> > of gasoline translates into different miles-driven than a gallon of,
> > say, liquid hydrogen (as used by BMW) or, say, biodiesel. Also, it
> > has much different content of actual energy. But, comparing
> > price-per-gallon seems to be the shorthand and shortcut that most
> > folks want to hear.
> >
> > So, I don't know exactly the right way to compare fuel pricing, but if
> > H2 and Electricity and B100, B20, E85, Propane, CNG, etc. etc. are to
> > be proposed as credible alternatives, with a straight face, then I'd
> > also like to get a sense of pricing comparisons that would be seen at
> > the pump.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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