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Fisheye Camera

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  • Hue Walker Bumgarner-Kirby
    revisiting the fisheye/camera question... one of my former students suggests... I have a Nikon Coolpix 5000 with the FC-E8 fisheye adapter that can get
    Message 1 of 4 , Oct 27, 2005
      revisiting the fisheye/camera question... one of my former students suggests...

      """"I have a Nikon Coolpix 5000 with the FC-E8 fisheye adapter that
      can get over 3K after you resample to 72dpi from 300dpi.I originally
      bought a Nikon D100 and the Sigma 8mm circular fisheye. Unfortunetly,
      w/out the proper research... none of the Nikon cameras use a full
      frame CCD. Sigma makes this same lens for Canon. Canon just released
      their mid-ranged 5D with a full-frame sensor that's 12.8 megapixels
      for about 3,000. This would be my suggestion (even though I once
      leaned to Nikon). I've worked with the 10 and 20D models and would
      prefer it even over the D1X. Haven't tested the D2X but it's still
      not using a full-frame sensor,
      so... I heard bad things about the Fuji and Kodak full-framers.""""

      A colleague has a Canon SLR (not sure of model yet) she may lend us...
      anybody here tried using the Canon solution???

      h


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      Hue Walker Bumgarner-Kirby
      Multi Media Development Specialist
      ARTS Lab
      University of New Mexico
    • Hue Walker Bumgarner-Kirby
      I tend to like to sjoot in low light conditions... so I m reluctant to go with the Kodak.... which Canon models are folks using??? Which Canons would work well
      Message 2 of 4 , Nov 1, 2005
        I tend to like to sjoot in low light conditions... so I'm reluctant to
        go with the Kodak.... which Canon models are folks using??? Which
        Canons would work well with the Nikkor lens???

        and I'm confused about the 1:1 chip spec.... when I look at the specs
        on cameras, I don't seem to find any info about whether or not it uses
        the full chip... how would I spec that????

        hue

        ---------- Forwarded message ----------
        From: tom@... <tom@...>
        Date: Nov 1, 2005 7:15 AM
        Subject: Re: Fisheye Camera
        To: Hue Walker Bumgarner-Kirby <huewalker@...>


        Hi Hue... I'm in Africa (Kenya, Tanzinia and Eqypt) right now using two Kodak
        14n cameras... the only issue with these digital bodies is in low light
        conditions and the noise level can be high... this has been improved with the
        newer Kodak SLRn version bodies and the 14n version is still quite usuable (I
        have one of each) for everthing other than low light imaging. The bodies come
        in both a Canon and Nikon mount, but you will need to get them through eBay
        since Kodak is no longer making them... a good condition SLRn will probably
        cost around $2700+, the older 14n, $1800+. I am using a Nikkor 6mm fisheye,
        the best lens I've seen... again eBay, probably about $2300+ since they are in
        demand now. The Kodaks are great if you tie them to a laptop with the FireWire
        port... then you can shoot with direct control from the laptop and see large
        previews as you shoot... also the files are saved directly to the laptop, so
        you have almost
        unlimited disk space as compared to CF cards, etc... great for long time-lapse
        work.

        Tom

        PS: Can you forward this to the fulldome group... I can't do it since I am using
        a special international setup to check email and it will not be accepted by
        yahoo, just bounces back... take care!


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        Hue Walker Bumgarner-Kirby
        Multi Media Development Specialist
        ARTS Lab
        University of New Mexico
      • Kemper Barkhurst
        Here are a few screen shots from B&H. I find them to be the best place on the web to do comparative equipment research, though I tend to shop locally once I
        Message 3 of 4 , Nov 1, 2005
          Here are a few screen shots from B&H. I find them to
          be the best place on the web to do comparative
          equipment research, though I tend to shop locally once
          I figure out which model is best. Camera's that have
          the full sensor or 1:1 (equivelant size to 35mm film)
          will state this multiple times in both the features
          and specifications. This is a major selling point for
          them.

          Camera's that do not will state this information as
          the "focal length multiplier." This is the
          magnification that occurs whenever the sensor is not
          35mm. Say you have a 20mm lens and you put it on the
          Canon 20D, you'll end up with the equivelant of a 32mm
          lens. Nikon has developed "DX" lenses that corrects
          this magnification issue. The only problem is they
          don't make a circular fisheye in this type of lens.
          To push this line they haven't developed a full frame
          sensor.

          -Kemper

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          Hue Walker Bumgarner-Kirby <huewalker@...> wrote:

          > I tend to like to sjoot in low light conditions... so I'm
          > reluctant to go with the Kodak.... which Canon models
          > are folks using??? Which Canons would work well with
          > the Nikkor lens???

          > and I'm confused about the 1:1 chip spec.... when I
          > look at the specs on cameras, I don't seem to find any
          > info about whether or not it uses the full chip... how
          > would I spec that????
        • Garry Stasiuk
          ... Actually DX (Sigma calls them DC Tamron Di) lenses don t correct the magnification factor and the the DX lenses do not give full coverage on a full
          Message 4 of 4 , Nov 1, 2005
            > Camera's that do not will state this information as
            > the "focal length multiplier." This is the
            > magnification that occurs whenever the sensor is not
            > 35mm. Say you have a 20mm lens and you put it on the
            > Canon 20D, you'll end up with the equivelant of a 32mm
            > lens. Nikon has developed "DX" lenses that corrects
            > this magnification issue.

            Actually "DX" (Sigma calls them "DC" Tamron Di) lenses don't correct
            the magnification factor and the the DX lenses do not give full
            coverage on a full frame camera.

            These "digital" lenses (all manufacturers make them, only fully cover
            the smaller APC sensor) so the lenses can be a bit smaller and
            lighter and maybe with faster optics...)

            To Quote DPreview,

            "The AF-S DX VR 18-200mm F3.5-5.6G IF-ED Zoom-Nikkor (try saying that
            three times quickly) provides an equivelant field of view range of 27
            to 300 mm on a DX format digital SLR (such as the newly announced
            D200). "

            So, the digital camera you want is the new Canon 5 D with full 35 mm
            frame at around $3000 grand and a nice 8 mm circular fish eye (sigma
            just announces a new one...)

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            Mo Eb , Garry
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