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  • mike miller
    Hi fellow Domers, in a school setting I want to develop a highly diversified line of material for screening on the dome, not just astronomy.  Biology,
    Message 1 of 11 , May 1, 2014
      Hi fellow Domers,
      in a school setting I want to develop a highly diversified line of material for screening on the dome, not just astronomy.  Biology, chemistry, social studies, etc. Instantly it is recognizable that branching out like that fundamentally changes the planetarium as a venue dedicated solely to astronomy, and turns it into a general kind of screening theater. In fact, I am on the verge of proposing exactly that to the municipal board of education, and throw the place open in the evenings as some kind of community educational movie theater....

      But I don't have a budget to buy unlimited content, and I am not trying to enter the marketplace as a competitive business entity.  I want free stuff. All the free stuff I can get that's formatted for the dome. Hence, we are reaching my question....

      Is there software that will warp streaming internet "flat/square" video content to the full dome (we expect to install a single lens center-mount projector over the summer)?

      That's my question, my newbie question. I will very much appreciate a "Yes" to that, and a finger point in its direction, because I don't see it out there....

      Sincerely yours,
      Michael Miller
    • Arthur Bogard
      Hello Michael, Depending on the software/hardware platform you choose, that ability may already be built-in. For example: our Digitarium systems can unwarp
      Message 2 of 11 , May 1, 2014
        Hello Michael,
        Depending on the software/hardware platform you choose, that ability may already be built-in.  For example: our Digitarium systems can unwarp media for use on the dome in a sort of "theater" style display where the content will partially wrap around the sides.  Further, the software can allow you to dynamically place video on any part of the dome and scale it on the fly.  You can even mirror the video or image content such that whatever is displaying in the front of the room also displays on the rear of the room (useful for concentric seating designs).

        Other software platforms may also be able to handle this.

        Now, if you're looking to prewarp the content because you don't have a unified software platform, I've had good luck using Blender in the past to warp video or image content.  Ron Proctor was a great teacher, and I believe he may still be holding Blender workshops, so you might seek him out.  He was at the Ott Planetarium, but now works with the Clark Planetarium's production team.

        Arthur Bogard
        Planetarium Supervisor
        Digitalis Education Solutions, Inc

      • Ron Proctor
        There are at least two flat-to-dome plugins for Adobe AfterEffects that I know of (Fulldome and DomeXF). If you are interested in creating your own content,
        Message 3 of 11 , May 1, 2014
          There are at least two flat-to-dome plugins for Adobe AfterEffects that I know of (Fulldome and DomeXF).

          If you are interested in creating your own content, you can try Blender, a free, open source 3D software. There's a free online introduction to this software at ottplanetarium.org/training . I (and about a dozen other planetarians) can provide some support if you decide to go in this direction.

          Thanks!
          Ron

        • Hari Nandakumar
          If you re looking for some software which will render flat content on-the-fly on the dome instead of going through an offline process like After Effects,
          Message 4 of 11 , May 2, 2014
            If you're looking for some software which will render "flat" content "on-the-fly" on the dome instead of going through an offline process like After Effects, ShiraPlayer seems to have that feature - link is
            http://www.sureyyasoft.com/index.php/planetarium-shiraproject/shiraplayer/65-shiraplayer-define#pro

            (I've not tried this on-the-fly feature myself, though I have done this using various offline techniques)

            Yours,
            Hari Nandakumar

          • asaf yurdakul
            Hi Michael You can test and use ShiraPlayer for this stuff. The ShiraPlayer has capability flat video/image play on dome with different chooses. Also it is
            Message 5 of 11 , May 2, 2014
              Hi Michael

              You can test and use ShiraPlayer for this stuff. 
              The ShiraPlayer has capability flat video/image play on dome with different chooses. Also it is constantly updated.

              Best Regards.
              Asaf Yurdakul
              Software Specialist.
              www.sureyyasoft.com


            • Amr El-Laithy
              Dear Michael , this is Amr Ellaithy , i think there is a tutorial about converting a flat - to - dome process . anyway , i am working on some Dome content
              Message 6 of 11 , May 4, 2014
                Dear Michael ,

                this is Amr Ellaithy , i think there is a tutorial about converting a flat - to - dome process . anyway , i am working on some Dome content these days and i can help you making your content for free , just send me the content details then i will send you the DomeMaster .

                regards ,
                Amr

              • Colleen Thurston
                Hi All! Another newbie here with a related question. We are also developing programs (on a $0 budget) for local school groups on a range of subjects to
                Message 7 of 11 , May 5, 2014
                  Hi All!
                  Another newbie here with a related question. We are also developing programs (on a $0 budget) for local school groups on a range of subjects to supplement classroom learning, with an emphasis on science and math. I know NASA's content is all fair use and is not only limited to astronomy, but are there other sources you all have found to provide short form content? Or does anyone have any feedback or tips from their own experiences developing non-astronomy shows?


                  Thanks Much.


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                • planetarium4u
                  thanks Ron, doubtful we are going to produce our own programming.... But I see the Clark is looking for show ideas/scripts. I have a dynamite one about the
                  Message 8 of 11 , May 6, 2014
                    thanks Ron, doubtful we are going to produce our own programming.... But I see the Clark is looking for show ideas/scripts.  I have a dynamite one about the Spanish explorers naming the Southern Constellations (and putting a previously undiscovered sky-map up there to help future navigators/explorers).  I use it for the Spanish classes, teaches vocabulary, culture, history, and of course CONSTELLATIONS! - and some good astronomy stuff in the constellations. I would really love to talk to Clark about producing it....wide popularity could be expected. But it is the intellectual property of my employer since I developed it while here. Besides, I am freaked about divulging anything more specific without our lawyer in on it. But I'm open to hearing from you about any interest you may wish to express. ty.
                    Mike Miller
                    Glenfield Planetarium
                    Montclair, NJ
                  • mike miller
                    Yes! this is also a critical issue for all of us who seek to expand the usage of the planetarium within a school setting. I have developed several astronomy
                    Message 9 of 11 , May 6, 2014
                      Yes! this is also a critical issue for all of us who seek to expand the usage of the planetarium within a school setting.
                      I have developed several astronomy programs that cross-over to other subjects, like coordinate math, social studies, and Spanish language. But I am without strictly Biology content, for example, or Chemistry, or History content that is unrelated to astronomy. In fact, I am being asked to locate INTERACTIVE content in those subject matter areas. And not only am I not on the cutting edge of familiarity with dome content in those subjects, I don't even know in what way projected material could be interactive with students.!!
                      so, that's really working in the dark. Idn't it?
                      Mike Miller


                    • Jack Dunn
                      Such information is out there. The fulldome database gives plenty of information on new releases. Otherwise, attending regional planetarium conferences is the
                      Message 10 of 11 , May 7, 2014
                        Such information is out there. The fulldome database gives plenty of information on new releases.  Otherwise, attending regional planetarium conferences is the way to network and find out if others who are teaching might be sharing material.

                        Since I'm not a vendor of shows, I'm free to comment that I doubt any vendor is going to just take and develop some script you have, investing time and money for no reward.  Calling out particular vendors I doubt will work well either.  Best course is to develop your own content via Blender or similar freeware software.  Then if you want to share  send out that information via dome-l, this list or conferences.    However, in order to share with the different projection systems, you are going to need to have content as dome masters.   BTW - Blender can generate those from your animations.

                        -- 
                        Clear DARK Skies,
                        
                        Jack Dunn - Mueller Planetarium
                        
                      • marklnp
                        Colleen (and all), You wrote: are there other sources you all have found to provide short form content? Point your Web browser to the LNP Fulldome Show
                        Message 11 of 11 , May 8, 2014
                          Colleen (and all),

                          You wrote: "are there other sources you all have found to provide short form content? "

                          Point your Web browser to the LNP Fulldome Show Compendium:

                           http://www.lochnessproductions.com/lfsc/lfsc.html

                          Click on the "DUR." column header to sort by running time, and you just scroll through the listing of commercially-available shows... until you find a duration that's longer than your definition of "short term content" :-)

                          All the best,

                          >> Mark

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