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  • Erik Roberts
    ... Hi Hue, so helpful to have these glimpses of how you think about designing / producing for the dome - these are wonderful analogies and your idea that
    Message 1 of 15 , Aug 31, 2006
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      > .. getting back in touch
      > with the pre-frame imagination...

      > domes as magical cauldrons... or as the outer
      > extension of our craniums...

      > spaces which, in a way, predate the frame..

      > the campfire... and the dream

      > .. I look up into my empty dome and in a very visceral
      > way I "feel" the underside of the top of my skull filling
      > with the ideas

      Hi Hue, so helpful to have these glimpses of how you think
      about designing / producing for the dome - these are
      wonderful analogies and your idea that painting, theatre,
      photography, and cinema have taught us to see and think
      within the box frame is brilliant - can I please quote you?
      This raises very interesting theoretical issues, doesn't
      it, as well as pointing to a uniquely intimate way of
      working that you, Pip, Don and others are pioneering -
      almost like listening to the dome and letting it tell you
      what it wants. Using this "visceral" approach of yours
      there is every likelihood that people who see your work
      will feel that connection you have with the medium and be
      transported just as you want them to be - does this make
      sense? It's all about empathy, (with the medium's form -
      it's distinctive nature) is that what you are saying?

      It's interesting because what you are hinting at is that
      the planetarium theatre is like a giant "brain-womb" and
      full-dome experience can engage / evoke ancestral memories
      - affinities with nature we have forgotten that we have???
      Could you correct me here, or say a little more - you have
      me most intrigued... (also, the analogy between the dome
      and the brain suggests that it would make a natural subject
      for a full-dome show - sure to be some funding somewhere.
      Has it already been done? The prelude to Astronaut suggest
      how exciting it could be.) I'm sure it would help everyone
      to understand how the creative mind conceives, immersively
      speaking, for this fertile new medium.

      Thanks, Hue.

      cameraderie
    • Hue Walker Bumgarner-Kirby
      can I please quote you? ... I d be honored... thanks erik pioneering - almost like listening to the dome and letting it tell you what it wants. Using this
      Message 2 of 15 , Sep 1, 2006
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        "can I please quote you?"... I'd be honored... thanks erik

        "pioneering - almost like listening to the dome and letting it tell you what
        it wants. Using this "visceral" approach of yours there is every likelihood
        that people who see your work will feel that connection you have with the
        medium and be transported just as you want them to be - does this make
        sense? It's all about empathy, "

        absolutely... I always start with an idea... but the dome very quickly takes
        over and leads the project in and through... suggesting, surprising,
        refusing, rolling around to a different view... (paper and canvas do the
        same thing...;-)

        and my only hope is that the viewers will connect on a visceral level and
        find their own stories within the images I present...

        "brain-womb"... I really like that...

        in fact... as I was walking to work this morning, I passed a garden I have
        been walking by for 20 years... and admiring... she has something I've never
        seen before this year... Hyacinth Beans... lovely, fragrant, stunningly
        beautiful vines covered with deep purple maroon pods and tendrils, and tiny
        violet pea flowers... as I walked on, I was imagining a dome piece... dark
        and dream-like, shimmering subtle colors, lots of transparency, glass-like
        surfaces... (think diatoms... gems... smoke tendrils)... a stylized human,
        head and hands, semi transparent, shimmering... the hands cup a Hyacinth
        bean tendril, sniffing the flowers, observing the pods, the shapes and
        colors and scents... and the brain, now visible thru the transparent skin,
        begins to collect the information...

        we then show, both thru brain activity (shimmering colors indicating degree
        of activity in the proper brain areas) and images (within the brain?
        surrounding the person? slipping over corresponding areas of the dome?)...

        the idea being to present the interior experience of encounter, association
        and memory... how when one encounters something like this plant, with it's
        scent and colors and shapes, and all the associations these can present in a
        human mind, there is a sequence set off in the brain... certain areas become
        active in certain orders as we experience the encounter.... areas to do with
        color, scent and shape recognition... memories, emotions, curiosity,
        learning....

        hiho... it was an interesting walk... glad I didn't encounter too much
        traffic in the next couple of crossings while I was away in dome land!...;-)

        yes... I'd love to see a "brain" -"dome" correlation...;-)

        --
        Hue Walker Bumgarner-Kirby
        Multi Media Development Specialist
        ARTS Lab
        University of New Mexico
      • Erik Roberts
        ... This is how (I m sure) most of the great directors - Sergei Eisenstein, Dziga Vertov, Orson Wells, Andrei Tarkovsky, Fellini (et al) worked - allowing the
        Message 3 of 15 , Sep 1, 2006
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          > absolutely... I always start with an idea... but the dome very
          > quickly takes over and leads the project in and through...
          > suggesting, surprising, refusing, rolling around to a different
          > view... (paper and canvas do the same thing...;-)

          This is how (I'm sure) most of the great directors - Sergei Eisenstein,
          Dziga Vertov, Orson Wells, Andrei Tarkovsky, Fellini (et al) worked -
          allowing the medium to dictate its own terms (rather than the cookie-
          cutter feature film production process of script to screen in the
          quickest possible time. The concept has to grow organically, as it were,
          if it's going to "entrain" (is that the right word?) the audience -
          entrancement is not "falling asleep" or a state of involuntary hypnosis
          but a state of being gripped by the enigmatic - it is a state of feeling
          most alive - wouldn't you agree? Like when you saw those vines.

          > as I walked on, I was imagining a dome piece... dark
          > and dream-like,

          The darkness (artificial night) corresponds to that primordial state
          you referred to in your previous post...

          > shimmering subtle colors, lots of transparency, glass-like
          > surfaces... (think diatoms... gems... smoke tendrils)...

          this translucency would work well as a method of shifting (gradually)
          between inner and outer p.o.v.... because that is the central problem -
          how to represent / depict two coexistent realities on the dome at the
          same time... it this correct?

          > a stylized human, head and hands, semi transparent, shimmering...
          > the hands cup a Hyacinth bean tendril, sniffing the flowers, observing
          > the pods, the shapes and colors and scents... and the brain, now
          > visible thru the transparent skin, begins to collect the information...

          Wow! The entire psycho-biological phenomenon of an ordinary event.
          This is what full-dome was invented for (as well as astronomy, of
          course, although, having said that, if it's true that we are all stardust,
          everything is astronomy-related - what is the human brian but the
          crowning achievement of the universe?)

          > we then show, both thru brain activity (shimmering colors indicating
          > degree of activity in the proper brain areas) and images (within the
          > brain? surrounding the person? slipping over corresponding areas
          > of the dome?)...

          There is a lot of good research data on brain behaviour during sleeping
          and dreaming - perhaps this could come into the story somehow - you
          could actually see the changing brain patterns over the 90 minute sleep
          cycle. The "plot" could be either a walk down the street or "a day in
          the life of a brain"... or you could do two short pieces - the brain
          awake and the brain asleep - like bookends.

          > the idea being to present the interior experience of encounter,
          > association and memory... how when one encounters something like this
          > plant, with it's scent and colors and shapes, and all the associations
          > these can present in a human mind, there is a sequence set off in the
          > brain... certain areas become active in certain orders as we
          > experience the encounter.... areas to do with color, scent and shape
          > recognition... memories, emotions, curiosity, learning....

          Apologies in advance if I wander off-topic... I guess I want to just say
          here that such an important topic requires us to ask - what does the
          average person want to know about themselves - about how their brain
          works - if this theme was handled well enough it could "fast-track"
          human potential in people who are predisposed to a deeper understanding
          of how life works. I'm thinking that if you got it right, Hue, it could
          be very enlightening - it would give people a new perception of
          themselves - like "Passport" did for me when I first saw it. You've hit
          on a full-dome subject that is screaming out to be done - even if it was
          only 5 - 10 minutes duration.

          Thank you for a stimulating reply.

          This link was recently sent to the iota forum - it is a well-written
          paper on "live cinema" and may have relevance to full-dome
          practitioners.
          http://www.rupture-online.net/04citaoic01.htm

          cameraderie
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