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RE: [fukuoka_farming] How can vegetables be grown naturally?Kanakambra?

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  • edward barton
    Hi Suraj,               Would you know the hindi or marathi name for KANAKAMBRA,.the flower looks very pretty in the pic.
    Message 1 of 1 , Jun 17 4:55 PM
      Hi Suraj,
                    Would you know the hindi or marathi name for KANAKAMBRA,.the flower looks very pretty in the pic.
                     Thanks for sharing your expereinces

      --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Linda Shewan <linda_shewan@...> wrote:

      From: Linda Shewan <linda_shewan@...>
      Subject: RE: [fukuoka_farming] How can vegetables be grown naturally?
      To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:29 AM

      Thanks Suraj, it is a timely reminder that careful observation is the key -

      and also a great way to think about crab grass ... Linda

      From: fukuoka_farming@ yahoogroups. com

      [mailto:fukuoka_farming@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Suraj Kumar

      Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2009 12:10 PM

      To: fukuoka_farming@ yahoogroups. com

      Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming] How can vegetables be grown naturally?

      Hi Lee (and everybody),

      This is also my first post so let me take the opportunity to say "hi"

      to everyone here. I hope this post will be a useful one :)

      I have a 700 sq.ft. (70x10) kitchen garden (Bangalore, India). I

      started growing vegetables and other useful plants (brinjal, chillies,

      tomatoes, colocasia, butter beans, water melon, aloe vera, neem, curry

      leaves, tulsi) besides several hardy variety flowering plants like

      roses, jasmine, 'kanakambara'

      (http://commons. wikimedia. org/wiki/ File:Kanakambara .JPG), etc., that

      attract the pollinators.

      Most of my recently sown vegetables grow in an 'anarchic' way. So no

      beds or rows. But all this has worked because I have taller plants

      nearby to 'protect' the seedlings from sunlight. I typically just

      throw the seeds around the shady areas and later transplant them to

      wherever I think is suitable. When transplanting I take into account

      the nature of the roots of the plants being placed together (ex:

      butter beans have longer roots but tomatoes have shallow, broader

      roots. So they don't compete all that much). So I end up planting them

      almost in the same place, thereby not only saving space but also

      helping tomato grow on a relatively nitrogen rich soil (fixated by the


      Crab grass grows a lot in my garden. I let it grow until it starts

      seeding and then I cut off the seeds and throw the seeds out. I cut

      off the rest of the grass, dry it up and use it as mulch. No matter

      how carefully I remove the crab grass seeds, some end up falling back

      and thereby reseeding and 'sustaining' a steady supply of 'straw' for

      mulch. All I'm saying is, you don't even have to worry about growing

      straw. The only thing you need is careful observation, for if left

      unnoticed, the crab grass can spread and cause a lot of work later.

      Its like "A stitch in time saves nine" :)


      On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Lee <plain_farmer@ yahoo.com

      <mailto:plain_ farmer%40yahoo. com> > wrote:


      > I have read the One Straw Revolution, as well as important chapters in The

      Natural Way of Farming. Still, I do not feel confident about growing

      vegetables in a stand of grass.


      > I have read about synergistic agriculture on the Fukuoka farming website,

      and it seems like the most natural way of vegetable gardening, but it is

      still in rows, and still requites a straw mulch that must be produced in one

      way or another.


      > So, can vegetables other than Daikons be grown in a stand of grass, if the

      grass is cut very low with a skythe?


      > Is synergistic agriculture the most natural way to grow vegetables in an

      organized "row" or "bed" manner? Growing in a wide bed is useful where

      irrigation hoses are used, as well as for estimating yeilds, in my opinion.


      > Currently, I'm wondering if I could grow my own straw, by growing a grain,

      then using the straw to mulch vegetable beds. Then, I'd have to ad an input

      to the grain field, because I'd be romoving the straw, as oposed to

      returning it to the field.


      > So, can a living mulch work with vegetables? How about green manures that

      are grown on a no-dig bed, then cut and sheet mulched?


      > Currently, I'm working full-time on an organic farm near Austin Texas

      where a tractor is used for establishing wide rows that are 300' long, and

      drip tape is used for irrigation.


      > I'd like to farm in Texas, possibly further west by a hundred miles or so.

      The annual rainfall here is 30".


      > On this farm we pull all weeds, or go after them with hoes. Both the

      farmer and I have read the One Straw Revolution.



      "The Greatest Shortcoming of the Human Race is

      our Inability to Understand the Exponential Function"

      Dr. Albert Bartlett

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