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  • Yuho Sato
    Dear all, I have started seed-balling with Natural Farming in Tasmania in Australia, though I m Japanese... In Tasmania there are many wallabies and possums
    Message 1 of 13 , Sep 26, 2008
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      Dear all,


      I have started seed-balling with Natural Farming in Tasmania in Australia,
      though I'm Japanese...

      In Tasmania there are many wallabies and possums who eats the vegetables,
      and possums even could climb the fence!
      So I'm wondering how I could stop them to eat vegetables in Natural way...
      (or how to make a harmony with them)

      I think Mr.Fukuoka uses Japenese Bead Tree(Melia Azedarach) or Akebia
      that amimals doesn't like the smell.
      Now I'm trying to grow the tree, but it takes a few years to grow it...
      So I'm wondering if there is another way or another herbs.

      I heard Peppermint works well against wild boars or rats, then I wanna try
      it here, too.
      If someone knows about something against animals, could you please let me know?


      Thank you very much, and...
      Best Regards to Mr.Fukuoka and his followers...
      Yuho



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    • william maxwell
      It might be a poor suggestion but it s my understanding that most beings prefer an easier meal to a more difficult one; if you have a combination of the plants
      Message 2 of 13 , Sep 26, 2008
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        It might be a poor suggestion but it's my understanding that most beings prefer an easier meal to a more difficult one; if you have a combination of the plants that repel animals and an "offering" elsewhere, perhaps that would establish the harmony you're looking for.

        Bill Maxwell

        --- On Fri, 9/26/08, Yuho Sato <yuhosato@...> wrote:
        From: Yuho Sato <yuhosato@...>
        Subject: [fukuoka_farming] Against Animals
        To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 4:29 PM











        Dear all,



        I have started seed-balling with Natural Farming in Tasmania in Australia,

        though I'm Japanese...



        In Tasmania there are many wallabies and possums who eats the vegetables,

        and possums even could climb the fence!

        So I'm wondering how I could stop them to eat vegetables in Natural way...

        (or how to make a harmony with them)



        I think Mr.Fukuoka uses Japenese Bead Tree(Melia Azedarach) or Akebia

        that amimals doesn't like the smell.

        Now I'm trying to grow the tree, but it takes a few years to grow it...

        So I'm wondering if there is another way or another herbs.



        I heard Peppermint works well against wild boars or rats, then I wanna try

        it here, too.

        If someone knows about something against animals, could you please let me know?



        Thank you very much, and...

        Best Regards to Mr.Fukuoka and his followers...

        Yuho



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      • Pat D
        Thats exactly what i was thinking! ... From: william maxwell Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming] Against Animals To:
        Message 3 of 13 , Sep 26, 2008
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          Thats exactly what i was thinking!

          --- On Fri, 9/26/08, william maxwell <true_tom@...> wrote:
          From: william maxwell <true_tom@...>
          Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming] Against Animals
          To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:01 PM











          It might be a poor suggestion but it's my understanding that most beings prefer an easier meal to a more difficult one; if you have a combination of the plants that repel animals and an "offering" elsewhere, perhaps that would establish the harmony you're looking for.



          Bill Maxwell



          --- On Fri, 9/26/08, Yuho Sato <yuhosato@hotmail. com> wrote:

          From: Yuho Sato <yuhosato@hotmail. com>

          Subject: [fukuoka_farming] Against Animals

          To: fukuoka_farming@ yahoogroups. com

          Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 4:29 PM



          Dear all,



          I have started seed-balling with Natural Farming in Tasmania in Australia,



          though I'm Japanese...



          In Tasmania there are many wallabies and possums who eats the vegetables,



          and possums even could climb the fence!



          So I'm wondering how I could stop them to eat vegetables in Natural way...



          (or how to make a harmony with them)



          I think Mr.Fukuoka uses Japenese Bead Tree(Melia Azedarach) or Akebia



          that amimals doesn't like the smell.



          Now I'm trying to grow the tree, but it takes a few years to grow it...



          So I'm wondering if there is another way or another herbs.



          I heard Peppermint works well against wild boars or rats, then I wanna try



          it here, too.



          If someone knows about something against animals, could you please let me know?



          Thank you very much, and...



          Best Regards to Mr.Fukuoka and his followers...



          Yuho



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        • yarrow@sfo.com
          At 9:29 AM +1000 9/27/08, Yuho Sato wrote: ....In Tasmania there are many wallabies and possums who eats the vegetables, and possums even could climb the
          Message 4 of 13 , Sep 26, 2008
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            At 9:29 AM +1000 9/27/08, Yuho Sato wrote:
            ....In Tasmania there are many wallabies and possums who eats the vegetables,
            and possums even could climb the fence!
            So I'm wondering how I could stop them to eat vegetables in Natural way...
            (or how to make a harmony with them)
            >>

            Talk to them. Years ago I read a book by Michael Roads, who wanted a
            garden on the land he'd bought in Australia but was told the
            wallabies/kangaroos eat everything. So he had a talk with them, said
            everything outside the fence is yours, inside is mine, otherwise I'll
            go after you. It worked. When he sold the land, he told the new
            owners that they had to make a pact with the critters if they wanted
            a garden, they thought he was bonkers, so the garden was overrun.
            Around the time I read this book, I lived in an apartment once that
            had cockroaches, so I made an agreement with them, and it worked.

            I probably should have a talk with the squirrels and birds. In the
            past few weeks., even the seed beds I've covered have been dug up
            within a day or two.

            (Another book in the same genre that I love is Kinship with all life.)

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          • Anders Skarlind
            My preliminary experience in my own garden is that this can help. It is often recommended to talk to the group soul or archetype of the animals, rather than
            Message 5 of 13 , Sep 27, 2008
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              My preliminary experience in my own garden is that this can help. It
              is often recommended to talk to the group soul or archetype of the
              animals, rather than the actual individuals. You may think of talking
              to the big wild boar, the big rat etc. Knowledge of how to talk to
              them may be helpful, and may be found at Perelandra (
              www.perelandra-ltd.com ) , in biodynamic circles, and I assume among
              animal whisperers.

              To be "against animals" is not a recommended attitude in this
              context. And really this only showed up the subject line and not the
              rest of Yuho Sato's post, so I assume he didn't really mean to do
              something against animals, just to handle a problem involving animals.

              Anders

              At 06:39 2008-09-27, you wrote:
              >Talk to them. Years ago I read a book by Michael Roads, who wanted a
              >garden on the land he'd bought in Australia but was told the
              >wallabies/kangaroos eat everything. So he had a talk with them, said
              >everything outside the fence is yours, inside is mine, otherwise I'll
              >go after you. It worked. When he sold the land, he told the new
              >owners that they had to make a pact with the critters if they wanted
              >a garden, they thought he was bonkers, so the garden was overrun.
              >Around the time I read this book, I lived in an apartment once that
              >had cockroaches, so I made an agreement with them, and it worked.
              >
              >I probably should have a talk with the squirrels and birds. In the
              >past few weeks., even the seed beds I've covered have been dug up
              >within a day or two.
              >
              >(Another book in the same genre that I love is Kinship with all life.)
            • Dieter Brand
              Yuho san,   I’m not familiar with possums and wallabies, but our property is surrounded on all sides by huge forests and we are frequently visited by wild
              Message 6 of 13 , Sep 27, 2008
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                Yuho san,

                I�m not familiar with possums and wallabies, but our property is surrounded on all sides by huge forests and we are frequently visited by wild boars and other wild animals.� To build solid fences does cost quite a bit of money and time, which I have hesitated to invest so far.� Hence, the property itself and even the garden are completely open.

                In the beginning everybody told us that we need dogs in a place like this, but being more of a cat person myself I never liked dogs very much, in fact they scarred me.� It was only after we got burgled the 5th time that I finally gave in and we decided to get a dog.� Not being familiar with dogs we decided not to take any chances and get a pure bred German Sheppard with a pedigree.� We never regretted it.� She is big and has a deep voice that makes her sound twice as big again.� Anyone who doesn�t know her will stay away at a save distance.� In fact, she has such a gentle soul that she couldn�t hurt anyone.� She is also very playful and more compassionate than most humans I know.� Her only weakness is that she likes to lick visitors all over the face.� In the beginning, I tried to make her give it up but this seems to be in the genes and a particularity of this breed.

                We are really lucky to have her.� She will hear or smell anybody and anything in a mile radius even when she is asleep.� Her barking will keep away unwelcome visitors and wild animals alike.� And with her gentle nature we can let her roam freely without fearing that she would attack anybody.� We really need to get another dog because dogs are best in a group.� But dogs can have very different characters and it�s important to get one that will fit in.� If you do get a dog, insist to see how the parents are, that�s the best way to judge.

                I think most repellent plants have only a very limited effect.� Wild boars, for example, are creatures of habit, they come through the same places each year and dig their holes no matter what I plant.

                Let�s not forget that �harmony� with nature or whatever is a human concept.� In nature there is quite a bit beastliness that would upset most nature romantics.� As a farmer or gardener it is alright to protect our food as long as we abstain from chemicals or other weapons of mass destruction.� And to talk to a wallaby you probably need to be a wallaby yourself.

                Dieter Brand,
                Portugal


                --- On Sat, 9/27/08, Yuho Sato <yuhosato@...> wrote:

                From: Yuho Sato <yuhosato@...>
                Subject: [fukuoka_farming] Against Animals
                To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 12:29 AM






                Dear all,

                I have started seed-balling with Natural Farming in Tasmania in Australia,
                though I'm Japanese...

                In Tasmania there are many wallabies and possums who eats the vegetables,
                and possums even could climb the fence!
                So I'm wondering how I could stop them to eat vegetables in Natural way...
                (or how to make a harmony with them)

                I think Mr.Fukuoka uses Japenese Bead Tree(Melia Azedarach) or Akebia
                that amimals doesn't like the smell.
                Now I'm trying to grow the tree, but it takes a few years to grow it...
                So I'm wondering if there is another way or another herbs.

                I heard Peppermint works well against wild boars or rats, then I wanna try
                it here, too.
                If someone knows about something against animals, could you please let me know?

                Thank you very much, and...
                Best Regards to Mr.Fukuoka and his followers...
                Yuho

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              • macropneuma
                G day Yuho Sato, (from Sydney, and farm in East Gippsland, Victoria, Autralia) All the above replies (that i ve read) i agree with, lovely points about talking
                Message 7 of 13 , Sep 27, 2008
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                  G'day Yuho Sato, (from Sydney, and farm in East Gippsland, Victoria,
                  Autralia)

                  All the above replies (that i've read) i agree with, lovely points
                  about talking to animals.
                  Now i can add from my farm in far east gippsland, victoria, australia,
                  that talking with Wallabies (Black/Swamp), Red-Necked Pademelons,
                  Eastern Grey Kangaroos (2 metres tall - bigger & stronger than me),
                  Wombats, and sometimes ??possums ?? does work here. Talking with kind
                  love for them i mean. (and talking with other animals i have residing
                  there for that reason and various other reasons: Black, Brown & Tiger
                  Snakes, Goanna (lizards), Skinks, Antechinus, Bush Rats ??sometimes??,
                  Sugar Gliders, Yellow-bellied Gliders, even Platypus in the river,
                  Eels in the river, which we catch and eat, sometimes Japanese
                  unagi-don style, maybe ?? Flying Foxes (Fruit Bats), many birds,
                  including Lyre-Birds, Wedge Tailed Eagles, White-Bellied Sea Eagles,
                  Powerful Owls, Boobook Owls, Masked Owls, Ravens, Cockatoos, Butcher
                  Birds, particularly the spectacularly beautiful Satin Bower-Birds
                  which would eat all my orchard fruit if i didn't make a relationship
                  with them, feral foxes, feral cats, and the most gorgeously cute bush
                  friends Southern Emu Wrens, and Superb Fairy Wrens, etc. etc. - the
                  end if my rave about the vast variety of animals i share home with)

                  And here in my other home of the northern-beaches bushy-suburbs of
                  Sydney, NSW, we have bandicoots amongst the houses and bush remnants,
                  they don't eat our food at all, as they are specialised native truffle
                  (fungus fruiting bodies) eaters. I talk with them sometimes in the
                  morning and evening on the road as they are scampering around sniffing
                  the ground for truffles, and over some months they've gotten to know
                  me, and then come right up to me and have a sniff of my feet -
                  extremely cute, kooky animals - as a character they'd suit a Japanese
                  animation comedy or childrens show perfectly i guess.

                  Everyone - internet search out images, videos and info about these
                  gorgeous wild animals, if you like animals - they're all amazing
                  creatures (and very different to northern hemisphere faunas).

                  I add one more suggestion Yuho:
                  Sorry if you are vegetarian please disregard.
                  After establishing some rapport with your Wallabies and Possums for a
                  while (some months? at least - i've been on my farm 8 years by myself
                  and 21 years on & off as it was my late father's organic farm), ask
                  them in a prayer/meditation (reverent) style if one of them will offer
                  themselves to you for food (after all you've been feeding them
                  vegetables).
                  We both might be surprised at the result.
                  One may signal you (vaguely? or not?) somehow to your mind, that it is
                  willing to give itself for food (only food not wasteful death).
                  Believe it or not folks.
                  I haven't been in a position to do this much, except mostly with eels
                  as my animals mostly don't eat my crops and also i don't need to eat
                  them yet, except for the birds, which are, by their nature, very
                  flighty (pun intended). I have kangaroo meat from not too good
                  (wasteful) farmers nearby - more about that below.
                  So i have established a rapport with many animals including the
                  towering massive buck (male) kangaroos and the tiny golf-ball-sized
                  bundle of feathers & wings, the emu wrens, for mutual solidarity, and
                  information, rather than for consuming them - eg. they tell me when a
                  threat is near, eg. a snake, a storm, a fire, etc. .
                  One day in the future i may ask in meditation-style the kangaroos to
                  offer me an appropriate one of their group for food - i don't know how
                  it will go - ?? I eat kangaroo meat from neighbour beef cattle
                  farmers who, i'm sorry to say, shoot kangaroos to kill them off from
                  eating their pasture that they wish only their cattle to eat. Cattle
                  are in experimental (science) evidence much less efficient meat
                  producing animals than kangaroos. It is such a pitiful waste.

                  Their are still great indigenous people in Tasmania, Palawa people,
                  today.
                  They can directly give you instructions on your particular
                  animals and situation, ***if you have something real to offer for them
                  *** eg. at least genuine support - contact the Tasmanian Aboriginal
                  Centre... .
                  Indigenous friends i have do this, asking Country for food in a
                  prayer/meditation/ceremony style, and with great success and
                  longevity, very generally speaking.

                  Konban wa,
                  Best Wishes,
                  Jase.

                  --- In fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com, "Yuho Sato" <yuhosato@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Dear all,
                  >
                  >
                  > I have started seed-balling with Natural Farming in Tasmania in
                  Australia,
                  > though I'm Japanese...
                  >
                  > In Tasmania there are many wallabies and possums who eats the
                  vegetables,
                  > and possums even could climb the fence!
                  > So I'm wondering how I could stop them to eat vegetables in Natural
                  way...
                  > (or how to make a harmony with them)
                  >
                  > I think Mr.Fukuoka uses Japenese Bead Tree(Melia Azedarach) or Akebia
                  > that amimals doesn't like the smell.
                  > Now I'm trying to grow the tree, but it takes a few years to grow it...
                  > So I'm wondering if there is another way or another herbs.
                  >
                  > I heard Peppermint works well against wild boars or rats, then I
                  wanna try
                  > it here, too.
                  > If someone knows about something against animals, could you please
                  let me know?
                  >
                  >
                  > Thank you very much, and...
                  > Best Regards to Mr.Fukuoka and his followers...
                  > Yuho
                  >
                  >
                  >
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                  >
                • Raju Titus
                  Dear friends, We are growing vegetables for eating but before we eat some body is eating. Thanks for using Natural technique for growing. Do nothing is the
                  Message 8 of 13 , Sep 27, 2008
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                    Dear friends,
                    We are growing vegetables for eating but before we eat some body is eating.
                    Thanks for using Natural technique for growing."Do nothing" is the best to
                    solve problems.
                    Raju


                    On 9/27/08, Yuho Sato <yuhosato@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Dear all,
                    >
                    > I have started seed-balling with Natural Farming in Tasmania in Australia,
                    > though I'm Japanese...
                    >
                    > In Tasmania there are many wallabies and possums who eats the vegetables,
                    > and possums even could climb the fence!
                    > So I'm wondering how I could stop them to eat vegetables in Natural way...
                    > (or how to make a harmony with them)
                    >
                    > I think Mr.Fukuoka uses Japenese Bead Tree(Melia Azedarach) or Akebia
                    > that amimals doesn't like the smell.
                    > Now I'm trying to grow the tree, but it takes a few years to grow it...
                    > So I'm wondering if there is another way or another herbs.
                    >
                    > I heard Peppermint works well against wild boars or rats, then I wanna try
                    > it here, too.
                    > If someone knows about something against animals, could you please let me
                    > know?
                    >
                    > Thank you very much, and...
                    > Best Regards to Mr.Fukuoka and his followers...
                    > Yuho
                    >
                    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    >
                    >
                    >


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                  • Will
                    ... beings prefer an easier meal to a more difficult one; if you have a combination of the plants that repel animals and an offering elsewhere, perhaps that
                    Message 9 of 13 , Oct 4, 2008
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                      --- In fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com, william maxwell <true_tom@...>
                      wrote:
                      >
                      > It might be a poor suggestion but it's my understanding that most
                      beings prefer an easier meal to a more difficult one; if you have a
                      combination of the plants that repel animals and an "offering"
                      elsewhere, perhaps that would establish the harmony you're looking for.
                      >

                      I believe the suggestion has merit, though one must be careful with
                      enabling a growing population of animals that may then, by pressure
                      from simply needing to feed themselves, expand into your garden area.
                      We have a population of rabbits nearby, and I finally had to fence my
                      garden in order to be able to rescue any beans, peas, carrots, etc.

                      My grains haven't suffered the same fate, fortunately.

                      Will Stewart
                    • shashi.pkumar@wipro.com
                      Yuho San, One more option you could explore is to grow a trap crop - a crop wallabies and possums like most. While wallabies and possums concentrate on the
                      Message 10 of 13 , Oct 13, 2008
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                        Yuho San,

                        One more option you could explore is to grow a trap crop - a crop wallabies and possums like most. While wallabies and possums concentrate on the trap crop, you vegetables will be spared...

                        I saved most of my paddy (grown in 20 cents area) from bird attacks by growing sunflowers in a small areas (around 2 cents area...). Still there were bird attacks to paddy but I believe was able to divert their attention...

                        Shashi


                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dieter Brand
                        Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:20 AM
                        To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming] Against Animals

                        Yuho san,
                         
                        I'm not familiar with possums and wallabies, but our property is surrounded on all sides by huge forests and we are frequently visited by wild boars and other wild animals.  To build solid fences does cost quite a bit of money and time, which I have hesitated to invest so far.  Hence, the property itself and even the garden are completely open.
                         
                        In the beginning everybody told us that we need dogs in a place like this, but being more of a cat person myself I never liked dogs very much, in fact they scarred me.  It was only after we got burgled the 5th time that I finally gave in and we decided to get a dog.  Not being familiar with dogs we decided not to take any chances and get a pure bred German Sheppard with a pedigree.  We never regretted it.  She is big and has a deep voice that makes her sound twice as big again.  Anyone who doesn't know her will stay away at a save distance.  In fact, she has such a gentle soul that she couldn't hurt anyone.  She is also very playful and more compassionate than most humans I know.  Her only weakness is that she likes to lick visitors all over the face.  In the beginning, I tried to make her give it up but this seems to be in the genes and a particularity of this breed.
                         
                        We are really lucky to have her.  She will hear or smell anybody and anything in a mile radius even when she is asleep.  Her barking will keep away unwelcome visitors and wild animals alike.  And with her gentle nature we can let her roam freely without fearing that she would attack anybody.  We really need to get another dog because dogs are best in a group.  But dogs can have very different characters and it's important to get one that will fit in.  If you do get a dog, insist to see how the parents are, that's the best way to judge.
                         
                        I think most repellent plants have only a very limited effect.  Wild boars, for example, are creatures of habit, they come through the same places each year and dig their holes no matter what I plant.
                         
                        Let's not forget that "harmony" with nature or whatever is a human concept.  In nature there is quite a bit beastliness that would upset most nature romantics.  As a farmer or gardener it is alright to protect our food as long as we abstain from chemicals or other weapons of mass destruction.  And to talk to a wallaby you probably need to be a wallaby yourself.
                         
                        Dieter Brand,
                        Portugal
                         

                        --- On Sat, 9/27/08, Yuho Sato <yuhosato@...> wrote:

                        From: Yuho Sato <yuhosato@...>
                        Subject: [fukuoka_farming] Against Animals
                        To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 12:29 AM






                        Dear all,

                        I have started seed-balling with Natural Farming in Tasmania in Australia, though I'm Japanese...

                        In Tasmania there are many wallabies and possums who eats the vegetables, and possums even could climb the fence!
                        So I'm wondering how I could stop them to eat vegetables in Natural way...
                        (or how to make a harmony with them)

                        I think Mr.Fukuoka uses Japenese Bead Tree(Melia Azedarach) or Akebia that amimals doesn't like the smell.
                        Now I'm trying to grow the tree, but it takes a few years to grow it...
                        So I'm wondering if there is another way or another herbs.

                        I heard Peppermint works well against wild boars or rats, then I wanna try it here, too.
                        If someone knows about something against animals, could you please let me know?

                        Thank you very much, and...
                        Best Regards to Mr.Fukuoka and his followers...
                        Yuho

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                      • dkscanoe
                        Look to Golden Retrievers they are very gentle dogs but same thing they will ward off other animals are a large breed but such gentle souls. You can pay an
                        Message 11 of 13 , Oct 14, 2008
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                          Look to Golden Retrievers they are very gentle dogs but same thing
                          they will ward off other animals are a large breed but such gentle
                          souls. You can pay an arm and a leg for a purebred but you can also
                          find some crossbred ones that retain all the favorable characteristics.
                          They are a true companion dog.

                          Doug Schmidt
                          Upstate New York
                          United States
                          >  
                          > In the beginning everybody told us that we need dogs in a place like
                          this, but being more of a cat person myself I never liked dogs very
                          much, in fact they scarred me.  It was only after we got burgled the
                          5th time that I finally gave in and we decided to get a dog.  Not
                          being familiar with dogs we decided not to take any chances and get a
                          pure bred German Sheppard with a pedigree.  We never regretted it. 
                          She is big and has a deep voice that makes her sound twice as big
                          again.  Anyone who doesn't know her will stay away at a save
                          distance.  In fact, she has such a gentle soul that she couldn't hurt
                          anyone.  She is also very playful and more compassionate than most
                          humans I know.  Her only weakness is that she likes to lick visitors
                          all over the face.  In the beginning, I tried to make her give it up
                          but this seems to be in the genes and a particularity of this breed.
                          >  
                          > We are really lucky to have her.  She will hear or smell anybody and
                          anything in a mile radius even when she is asleep.  Her barking will
                          keep away unwelcome visitors and wild animals alike.  And with her
                          gentle nature we can let her roam freely without fearing that she
                          would attack anybody.  We really need to get another dog because dogs
                          are best in a group.  But dogs can have very different characters and
                          it's important to get one that will fit in.  If you do get a dog,
                          insist to see how the parents are, that's the best way to judge.
                          >  
                        • yarrow@sfo.com
                          Every year seems to be a little bit different, and in my garden most predation occurs in early spring and fall, when foods are less abundant in the wild. I had
                          Message 12 of 13 , Oct 14, 2008
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                            Every year seems to be a little bit different, and in my garden most
                            predation occurs in early spring and fall, when foods are less
                            abundant in the wild.

                            I had read about planting sunflowers to keep the squirrels away from
                            the tomatoes, so several years ago I tried it and it didn't work --
                            they stayed away from the sunflowers and ate tomatoes. But I noticed
                            they ate mostly the very fragrant larger open-pollinated tomatoes,
                            especially the pink and purple/black ones, so I started growing more
                            cherry tomatoes, as well as different colors (orange, yellow).

                            But this year, the squirrels have been eating every flower from one
                            sunflower plant that volunteered. They left the tomatoes alone until
                            yesterday, when I found my last large orange/yellow tomato partly
                            eaten!

                            Tanya in California



                            At 9:30 AM +0530 10/14/08, <shashi.pkumar@...> wrote:
                            Yuho San,

                            One more option you could explore is to grow a trap crop - a crop
                            wallabies and possums like most. While wallabies and possums
                            concentrate on the trap crop, you vegetables will be spared...

                            I saved most of my paddy (grown in 20 cents area) from bird attacks
                            by growing sunflowers in a small areas (around 2 cents area...).
                            Still there were bird attacks to paddy but I believe was able to
                            divert their attention...

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                          • Shawn Turner
                            I had problems with squirrels once. I ate them!! Just kidding. I sprayed hot pepper Spray on them. Then I took them over to where to squirrels where coming
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                              I had problems with squirrels once. I ate them!! Just kidding. I sprayed hot pepper Spray on them. Then I took them over to where to squirrels where coming into eat them. I watched as the squirrels came down to grab the tomato and take a bit. They immediately drop the tomato and ran off. The next day I did the same thing for 3 days. I have never had a problem sense and we have tons of squirrels.

                              I have also heard if you plant hot peppers next to your tomato's animals will leave them alone.


                              ----- Original Message ----
                              From: "yarrow@..." <yarrow@...>
                              To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:45:49 PM
                              Subject: RE: [fukuoka_farming] Against Animals


                              Every year seems to be a little bit different, and in my garden most
                              predation occurs in early spring and fall, when foods are less
                              abundant in the wild.

                              I had read about planting sunflowers to keep the squirrels away from
                              the tomatoes, so several years ago I tried it and it didn't work --
                              they stayed away from the sunflowers and ate tomatoes. But I noticed
                              they ate mostly the very fragrant larger open-pollinated tomatoes,
                              especially the pink and purple/black ones, so I started growing more
                              cherry tomatoes, as well as different colors (orange, yellow).

                              But this year, the squirrels have been eating every flower from one
                              sunflower plant that volunteered. They left the tomatoes alone until
                              yesterday, when I found my last large orange/yellow tomato partly
                              eaten!

                              Tanya in California

                              At 9:30 AM +0530 10/14/08, <shashi.pkumar@ wipro.com> wrote:
                              Yuho San,

                              One more option you could explore is to grow a trap crop - a crop
                              wallabies and possums like most. While wallabies and possums
                              concentrate on the trap crop, you vegetables will be spared...

                              I saved most of my paddy (grown in 20 cents area) from bird attacks
                              by growing sunflowers in a small areas (around 2 cents area...).
                              Still there were bird attacks to paddy but I believe was able to
                              divert their attention...

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