Re: [fukuoka_farming] Re: Thou shalt not kill!: Thou shalt eat all the fruits of the earth
- Dear friends,
I think natural food is best for all.
On 9/14/08, ai3131 <ai3131@...> wrote:
> Banning the thread would be a good idea. However, let's all remember
> that man is a part of the food chain, not apart from it. Even if
> humans do not always become another animal's prey, eventually our
> bodies decompose after we die. Thus, we are part of the "cycle of
> life", whether we live in the wilderness or the city.
> Also, although eating meat will always be a controversial topic for
> some, let's remember that not all environments are conducive to
> agriculture. For instance, would anyone here attempt farming the
> Mongolian steppes, even with the use of the Fukuoka Method?
> Instead of dwelling on religious minutiae, shouldn't we concentrating
> on alternatives to "conventional farming" (esp. "industrial farming")?
> And, again, much obliged for welcoming me aboard this forum.
> -Arian I.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org <fukuoka_farming%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Jeff" <shultonus@...> wrote:
> > Ok this thread should be banned.
> > The email is slanderous and disgusting religous propoganda
> > So anyways for those not blinded by the light of their own
> > ...
> > Cow's are hardly man's best friend, many of the commicable disease
> > the result of man's association with the bovine beast.
> > small pox and cow pox and TB (teburcolosis) and anthrax (terriost
> > weapon) are all proven to be (genetically) cow diseases
> > cholera and others not proven, but strongly suspected
> > Our western disease killed millions of innocents,....
> > Further more: FISH are animals, the suffering for fish is a proven
> > nuerological effect. Very few people humanly dispatch fish the way
> > they would a 'higher' animal
> > A clean shot to the heart, head, or neck to any mammal is a much
> > cleaner kill than a fish freezing to death on the ice, or drowning
> > without water.
> > How are we to know if the bull wants to do work for us>?
> > Is not slavery of this sort also ethically questionable?
> > If we yoked up humans for this sort of labor......
> > Oh yes, and the fact that we didn't evolve higher brain functions
> > until we had the ANIMAL nutrients to our diet,.. specifically bone
> > marrow and fats and proteins... while it is possible to sustain a
> > vegetarian diet and is nutritionally adequate.. this is not what are
> > bodies are designed for (our craving for fats), our hind-gut
> > (intestines) are much much to small to be vegetarians.
> > also telling are some vitamins that can only found in animal
> > (or supplements of animal products)
> > and finally, if a person thinks that a standard vegetarian diet is
> > non-violent they are seriously mistaken. all kinds of creatures are
> > killed or prevented from being born when we garden....
> > your garden,however natural is not the ideal habitat for bears and
> > wolves, and eagles, and all kinds of other things.
> > spirituality is born of respect for ALL life,
> > Respect can take many different forms,
> > what's appropriate for india or japan or africa, may not be
> > appropriate in europe or north america... this is why we have so
> > religions.. and this is why every
> > farmer in the Fukuoka tradition will always be starting from ground
> > zero.... each garden or farm is an ecosystem on its own...
> > and each difference is reflected in how we must BEST treat the land.
> > true efficiency.. with animals fattening off our wastes and by-
> > can be achieved, only if we use those products...
> > for each of our wastes that isn't accounted for and used by out farm
> > animals there is an extra foot or two we cannot leave for the rest
> > the world as wild...
> > and this I think is the fundamental principle of a closely related
> > field, permaculture (although I have much problems with the
> > way permaculture promlogates itself).
> > > The essential idea of spiritual farming is that human beings need
> > not kill animals for food,unless absolutely necessary-in the North
> > /South pole,they can eat fish!
> > >
> > > And cows are man's best friend...and not dogs!
> > > With the rehabilitation of cows among humans as most important
> > > animal,together with bulls for works,the planet can become a
> > paradise again! The cow dung/urine can detoxicate all the land
> > poisoned by chemicals!
> > >
> > > It is such a pity that the Brahman cows,considered as holiest of
> > animals are just considered in USA as tender meat!The karma for this
> > is monstrous tornados/cyclones!!!And continuous wars,where Americans
> > > suffer as in hell!
> > >
> > > I am begging to those who are not vegetarians yet to chose the non
> > > violent diet,and qualify for spiritual world.
> > >
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