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Re: [fukuoka_farming] Re: Thou shalt not kill!: Thou shalt eat all the fruits of the earth

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  • Raju Titus
    Dear friends, I think natural food is best for all. Raju ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    Message 1 of 5 , Sep 14, 2008
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      Dear friends,
      I think natural food is best for all.
      Raju


      On 9/14/08, ai3131 <ai3131@...> wrote:
      >
      > Banning the thread would be a good idea. However, let's all remember
      > that man is a part of the food chain, not apart from it. Even if
      > humans do not always become another animal's prey, eventually our
      > bodies decompose after we die. Thus, we are part of the "cycle of
      > life", whether we live in the wilderness or the city.
      >
      > Also, although eating meat will always be a controversial topic for
      > some, let's remember that not all environments are conducive to
      > agriculture. For instance, would anyone here attempt farming the
      > Mongolian steppes, even with the use of the Fukuoka Method?
      >
      > Instead of dwelling on religious minutiae, shouldn't we concentrating
      > on alternatives to "conventional farming" (esp. "industrial farming")?
      >
      > And, again, much obliged for welcoming me aboard this forum.
      >
      > -Arian I.
      >
      > --- In fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com <fukuoka_farming%40yahoogroups.com>,
      > "Jeff" <shultonus@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Ok this thread should be banned.
      > > The email is slanderous and disgusting religous propoganda
      > >
      > > So anyways for those not blinded by the light of their own
      > teachings.
      > > ...
      > >
      > > Cow's are hardly man's best friend, many of the commicable disease
      > are
      > > the result of man's association with the bovine beast.
      > >
      > > small pox and cow pox and TB (teburcolosis) and anthrax (terriost
      > > weapon) are all proven to be (genetically) cow diseases
      > > cholera and others not proven, but strongly suspected
      > >
      > > Our western disease killed millions of innocents,....
      > >
      > > Further more: FISH are animals, the suffering for fish is a proven
      > > nuerological effect. Very few people humanly dispatch fish the way
      > > they would a 'higher' animal
      > >
      > > A clean shot to the heart, head, or neck to any mammal is a much
      > > cleaner kill than a fish freezing to death on the ice, or drowning
      > > without water.
      > >
      > > How are we to know if the bull wants to do work for us>?
      > > Is not slavery of this sort also ethically questionable?
      > > If we yoked up humans for this sort of labor......
      > >
      > > Oh yes, and the fact that we didn't evolve higher brain functions
      > > until we had the ANIMAL nutrients to our diet,.. specifically bone
      > > marrow and fats and proteins... while it is possible to sustain a
      > > vegetarian diet and is nutritionally adequate.. this is not what are
      > > bodies are designed for (our craving for fats), our hind-gut
      > > (intestines) are much much to small to be vegetarians.
      > > also telling are some vitamins that can only found in animal
      > products
      > > (or supplements of animal products)
      > >
      > > and finally, if a person thinks that a standard vegetarian diet is
      > > non-violent they are seriously mistaken. all kinds of creatures are
      > > killed or prevented from being born when we garden....
      > > your garden,however natural is not the ideal habitat for bears and
      > > wolves, and eagles, and all kinds of other things.
      > >
      > > spirituality is born of respect for ALL life,
      > > Respect can take many different forms,
      > > what's appropriate for india or japan or africa, may not be
      > > appropriate in europe or north america... this is why we have so
      > many
      > > religions.. and this is why every
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > farmer in the Fukuoka tradition will always be starting from ground
      > > zero.... each garden or farm is an ecosystem on its own...
      > > and each difference is reflected in how we must BEST treat the land.
      > >
      > > true efficiency.. with animals fattening off our wastes and by-
      > spaces
      > > can be achieved, only if we use those products...
      > > for each of our wastes that isn't accounted for and used by out farm
      > > animals there is an extra foot or two we cannot leave for the rest
      > of
      > > the world as wild...
      > > and this I think is the fundamental principle of a closely related
      > > field, permaculture (although I have much problems with the
      > unethical
      > > way permaculture promlogates itself).
      > >
      > >
      > > > The essential idea of spiritual farming is that human beings need
      > > not kill animals for food,unless absolutely necessary-in the North
      > > /South pole,they can eat fish!
      > > >
      > > > And cows are man's best friend...and not dogs!
      > > > With the rehabilitation of cows among humans as most important
      > > > animal,together with bulls for works,the planet can become a
      > > paradise again! The cow dung/urine can detoxicate all the land
      > > poisoned by chemicals!
      > > >
      > > > It is such a pity that the Brahman cows,considered as holiest of
      > > animals are just considered in USA as tender meat!The karma for this
      > > is monstrous tornados/cyclones!!!And continuous wars,where Americans
      > > > suffer as in hell!
      > > >
      > > > I am begging to those who are not vegetarians yet to chose the non
      > > > violent diet,and qualify for spiritual world.
      > > >
      > >
      >
      >
      >


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