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  • Dieter Brand
    Srinath,   Good of you to make a start.  And thanks for sharing your experiment.  I renamed the subject line to My experiments with NF because Nandan and
    Message 1 of 42 , Sep 8, 2008
      Good of you to make a start.  And thanks for sharing your experiment.  I renamed the subject line to "My experiments with NF" because Nandan and Jeff have previously described their own experiments under that heading.  This will allow newcomers to search the group archives under a single heading for information about how to get started.
      In fact, I'm thinking of compiling all available data about what crops can be grown under what conditions without tilling.  I'm not yet sure what format to use, but to be of general use the data ought to include (I give my own case by way of example):  
      Subject:                       My experiments with NF
      Name & Place:             Dieter Brand, South of Portugal
      Climate:                       semi-arid
      Precipitation:                600 mm, mostly Nov. & April,
                                         0 mm May to September
      Soil:                             heavy clay, depleted
      Site history:                  no-till pasture for 12 years,
      before tilling for winter wheat
      Existing Vegetation:     native grasses and weeds
      Crop(s):                       rye/vetch
      Sowing date:                November
      precipitation:    50 mm in 3 days
      temps:             3 C night, 18 C day
      method:           direct broadcasting, 60 kg, 1 hectare,
                                         mowing once after broadcasting
      Harvesting:                   April mowing for mulch
      Comments:                  good germination and growth,
                                         no grains due to competition from grass
      If all who post their own experiments can do so under the same subject line and use a similar format, the data can be retrieved from the archives at a later date to compile into a single file that can be of use to all newcomers who want to give it a try.
      Dieter Brand

      --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Srinath <srinath.hr@...> wrote:

      From: Srinath <srinath.hr@...>
      Subject: [fukuoka_farming] My first experiment
      To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 1:15 PM

      I am not a farmer by profession and my knowledge on agricultire is
      limited to few pages of understanding from Kindergarten books on Eco
      friendly farming..
      My farm -near Bangalore India, was ploughed once last year...This year
      I decided not to get it ploughed...Three weeks back - when we were
      having good rains, I (along with my younger brother and my 7 year old
      son) scattered seeds of Horse gram (1 Kg)and green gram (0.25 Kg) in a
      small portion of the field....I did not make seed balls..
      My farm has quite good number of weeds (like crab grass and others
      which I dont know)
      People laughed at me and pitied my ignorance on subject and informed me
      that my exercise (scattering seeds without ploughing) was a futile one
      and I will not get plants and possibly all these seeds will be eaten by
      birds before they germinate - if at all they do.
      I am of the opinion that, since this is my first experiment, I am OK
      even if 10% of them germinate and grow.

      Since, my field doesnot have fence, the localites normally leave their
      cows/ sheep for grazing here...I told them about my experiment and
      requested them not leave for grazing in the area where seeds were

      End of First week :
      I went to the field on Saturday with my son and were anxious to know
      the fate of the seeds...I didnot know even how the one week old plants
      would like (of Horse gram or green gram).. We started searching in the
      field.....To our surprise we found little bunch of small similar
      looking Shoots- different from their neighbhours. .I was sure that these
      belong to Horse gram variety... I took photos of them...I got it
      confirmed that they are indeed Horse gram shoots....There was no limit
      to my joy....

      End of second week:
      The shoots are still alive and little bit grown with 3 to 4 leaves..
      along with it the green gram too has sprouted and had has 2 to 3

      I will keep you posted on the weekly progress....


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    • Pat D
      fukuoka talked about amaranth in the desert.  my memory could be wrong.  i just found it here, he says amaranth, daikon radish, and succulents for the
      Message 42 of 42 , Sep 17, 2008
        fukuoka talked about amaranth in the desert.  my memory could be wrong.  i just found it here, he says amaranth, daikon radish, and succulents for the desert.  link: http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC14/Fukuoka.htm

        the reason the soil in africa doesnt drain, is that there is so little soil that if it did drain, nothing could grow there for lack of water.  perhaps you can find something that grows in the black cotton rather than try and alter the natural soil which is so well adapted for catching rainwater.  good luck

        --- On Wed, 9/17/08, Ben Kobus <angemalaika@...> wrote:
        From: Ben Kobus <angemalaika@...>
        Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming] Re: Kenyan "black cotton soil"
        To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 3:36 PM

        Moringa sounds great, very exciting that it provides complete protein in a vegetable source. I have just read up a bit about it after receiving your message. I see one problem, though: it needs well-draining soil and black cotton is notorious for not being well draining.

        Someone said somewhere that it can be improved using leguminous trees. Indeed, the leguminous acacias are among the plants that thrive in the African savanna, giving it the characteristic landcape of flat-topped trees. Such trees also provide only slight shade, typically, thus enabling planting beneath them. I am encouraging these trees to grow on my small piece of land.

        An interesting observation a veteran of these parts pointed out to me just now: the seeds lie in the ground for years sometimes before germinating, and when they do, they spring very fast, a few centimetres from nothing literally overnight.

        Termites are an important factor in turning dead dead wood into humus, and I'm encouraging them by leaving dead branches to lie where they fall, and restraining the efforts of our tidy-minded gardener to gather them up and dump them elsewhere, thus saving him more work!

        I'm also going to try beans and / or clover in the short term.

        --- On Wed, 9/17/08, laurie (Mother Mastiff) <mother@mothermastif f.com> wrote:

        From: laurie (Mother Mastiff) <mother@mothermastif f.com>

        Subject: [fukuoka_farming] Re: Kenyan "black cotton soil"

        To: fukuoka_farming@ yahoogroups. com

        Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 6:55 PM

        What are you hoping to get from this garden? People are starting to

        plant Horseradish tree (Moringa) because nearly every part of it

        offers high nutrition for people and cattle.

        laurie (Mother Mastiff)

        Southeastern USA (NC and FL)

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