Re: Natural Farming for a Living
- Spectacular insight! The book was written by an archealogy professor
in California whose specialty is ancient peoples, more specifically
to this book those who were in California before the Spanish. Her
research made her take notice because their ways were similar to
those of most of the ancient cultures she had studied.
Their very existence was as a part of Nature....not an addendum to
it. They passed down through generations what plant would do this,
to eat when this was in short supply, what would save a life in the
rare instance of that disease, etc. They cared for what was around
them. They stepped in only when it was necessary to help any/all of
that survive. It was in their ancient lore that they must step in to
When the Spanish came they literally killed the animals they depended
upon, make that coexisted with, as well as basically agent-oranging
the landscape in order to import plants from Mexico and Europe that
made them feel more like at home.
When the Nature they were a part of was destroyed they began to be
destroyed because their diet, their medicine, everything that they
were a part of was gone.
I am encapsulating much of it, but you begin to get the idea....I
hope. It is not a thin book. The book is called, "Tending the Wild"
by M. Kat Anderson.
I think Jamie has touched on this from time to time....but he worded
it differently...maybe better than I am. But I got excited when you
figured it out so quickly.
We can't just go in and tame the acreage...or the garden. We need to
listen to it, so to speak. Emilia used to tell me to sit in the area
and watch for at least one whole day. Take a notebook, if I thought
I needed to do so. At first just sitting there seems to accomplish
nothing, but as the time passes you begin to 'see' it the way it
is...not the way you want to make it. I began to see that where I
wanted to make a bed was not the right place among other things. You
see what is a part of the whole.....not the whole of the part.
I hope I am wording this right. I have been talking/writing on the
opposite side of what I am trying to since the surgery. Not sure
why. Frustrates me. If someone can unravel it better, please do
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Ben Kobus <angemalaika@...>
>contributions, but just wish to contribute a thought which might help
> I'm jumping into the discussion without having read all the
resolve the issues around human "interference".
>something more or less alien to nature, with a peculiar gift of
> If we reframe the issue considering man as part of nature, not as
intelligence to contribute, this might help.
>notion of stewardship. If I have understood Fukuoka aright, his
> This privilege gives man a peculiar responsibility. Enter the
philosophy is one of humble stewardship, contrasting with the
arrogant and hubristic attitutude to human intelligence evinced in
the technological or bullying approach to farming. Nature "rewards"
this humility by good yields with less effort. In the same way being
wise stewards of our selves leads to greater health and vitality,
less spending on medical technology, and so on.
>to listen to nature and to work with it; this embraces the listening
> Fukuoka insists that we know nothing and that our responsibility is
to one's own self - body, spirit, so at to be a wise steward of it
too. There is no distinction between man and nature, just a
difference of gifts.
>impossible to understand or know nature (in the way that the techno-
> There is included in all this the paradox that though it is
scientific approach aspires to and often claims to), our reason
nevertheless has a natural role in which it is adequate, and that is
to listen and watch and then, in a sort of way, obey the nature of
things: things as they are, not as we want them to be or as we try to
force them to be. Such obedience leads to the natural consequences of
wise stewardship which are health, harmony and abundance.
- -No, the chicken layer pellets are poultry feed for laying hens. It is grain based feed but if you want complete ingredients maybe check the label on the bag at your feed store. Steve G.
email@example.com, yarrow@... wrote:
> So are chicken layer pellets similar to Sluggo (iron phosphate
> pellets), which is sold as a nontoxic (to pets and wildlife) snail
> and slug remedy at about $5-10 (est.) a pound in the U.S.? What's in
> them? Do birds eat them, or do you need to hide them (as with Sluggo)?
> At 11:00 PM +0000 6/22/09, grannis04 wrote:
> ---Micheal, I don't know what a chicken later pellet would be but
> chicken layer pellets are fed to laying hens. This really works and
> is very inexpensive. A 50lbs. bag is about $12.00 here. Good luck,
> Steve G.
> > Steve, what is a chicken later pellet?
> > Michael
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