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Re: [fukuoka_farming] Natural Farming for a Living

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  • Kiko Penaloza
    Your dream is the same as mine friend! Have you ever heard of polyface farm? Check out the articles written by Joel Salatin on this page. He is a fulltime
    Message 1 of 92 , Jul 16, 2008
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      Your dream is the same as mine friend! Have you ever heard of polyface farm? Check out the articles written by Joel Salatin on this page. He is a fulltime farmer and holds a bachelors in english, his articles are very inspiring and so is his vision (he regularly publishes in the national journal of sustainable agriculture of USA).
      They could give you some more ideas. His farm has three generations living and working on it and they are very prosperous in that they live well while respecting and benefiting the land, and animals around them. He also offers paid apprenticeships.
      His methods of animal husbandry are as amazing as Fukuoka's notill methods especially since he shows a present day american example of a thriving business as well as what I would call a natural farm. Spend some time reading his articles (also check out michael pollans book the "omnivores dilemma", many chapters are about this farm) and you will see what I mean. You will make it.

      --- On Wed, 7/16/08, Lee <plain_farmer@...> wrote:
      From: Lee <plain_farmer@...>
      Subject: [fukuoka_farming] Natural Farming for a Living
      To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 5:31 AM

      Back in 2004 I discovered organic farming. At that time the higher

      prices payed for organic produce restored my childhood hope to farm

      for a living. I then went on to discover various methods of farming

      on small organic farms. As my knowledge progressed, I began to

      desire to farm with less and less technology, or farm equipment.

      My first plans were to farm with a small used tractor and used

      implements. Then, in December of 2005 in an issue of American Small

      Farm I read an article about how one man still farmed with horses.

      He was also a professor, and explained the economics of horse

      farming, and all of the numerous benefits. I was excited to discover

      that it was still profitable and functional, especially since I had a

      background of breaking colts. I felt like I could combine my love

      for horses with a passion for organic farming, and everything would

      be wonderful.

      Well, in the coming months I subsicribed to a journal and a magazine

      about farming with horses and oxen. I learned a bit more and was

      further encouraged. Then, during the spring of 2006 while digging on

      the internet for more organic farming information I read about

      permaculture and no till gardening. Also, that spring in an issue of

      Acres USA I seen one of Masanobu Fukuoka's books the One Straw

      Revolution mentioned. The title of the book and a few words

      describing it stayed on my memmory. In the spring of 2007 I

      purchased the book. I was taken away by the wisdom in Fukuoka's

      methods, and his devotion for being in harmony with nature. At that

      point I changed my mind about wanting to farm with animals and till

      up the land.

      Since then I've been working an average of 60 hours a week in order

      to save money to purchase farmland. In about a years time I have

      managed to save thousands. Not hundreds of thousands, but tens of

      thousands, thanks to a career opportunity in construction.

      Nevertheless, this is certainly not a career that I want to spend my

      life in. I am still working towards my goal of farming for a living.

      I do have some concerns though. My biggest concern is whether or not

      I will be able to earn a sufficient income to meet my needs. Now, I

      am aware that a living a life of natural farming is more than just

      farming techniques, but a way of life that is more natural and

      simplified. I welcome the idea of further simplifying my life, and

      I am interested in voluntary simplicity. I currently live debt free,

      and TV free, but the rest of my life is that of a typical "tight"

      spend-thrift american. The problem arises for me when I consider the

      fact that I would like to provide finacially for a spouse. I'm

      currently single, and have no prospect, but I do worry about this. I

      also worry that I will not be able to find a spouse that would be

      happy living a life of great simplicity.

      I can see that living without electricity and living car-free would

      drastically reduce my expenses, but what about transporting my

      produce to the market? What about my social needs (though I'm a bit

      of an introvert), and what about the desires of a potential spouse?

      I'm beggining to question at this point whether or not I must choose

      between a life of natural farming, and providing financially for a

      life partner. Choosing to live off-the-grid is not tough for me, but

      choosing to live without solar panels, a laptop, a cell phone, and a

      fridge is tough for me. I know that I can do without these things if

      I must, but will I meet a woman in America that desires to live such

      a life? Then, there's living car-free, transporting produce, and so


      I guess that I'm asking for some direction, and a bit of


      I also need some hands-on experience with natural forming before I'm

      able to even subsist on it?

      Which brings up a good point. Should I only expect/desire to live at

      a subsitance level, and not trasport produce? I see the benefits in

      living such a life, but I fear being lonely and disconnected from my


      I've considered joining a commune in order to meet my social needs,

      but I feel that I will be limited in the amount of choices that I

      will be able to make concerning the layout of the farm, and so on.

      Maybe I'm being a bit selfish in that respect, and should see that

      some trade-off must exist in order to share my life with others.

      Back to the hands-on experience. I do need to learn. I have some

      knowledge about plants and the soil, and a bit of experience with

      livestock, but when it comes to real natural farming, I do not have

      any experience. Aside from my fears concerning financial issues, I

      know that I do not "yet" have enough knowledge and experience to

      natural farm at even a subsistence level with any certainty.

      Any advice would be much appreciated, even though some of my

      questions go beyond the realm of natural farming in some ways.

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    • grannis04
      -No, the chicken layer pellets are poultry feed for laying hens. It is grain based feed but if you want complete ingredients maybe check the label on the bag
      Message 92 of 92 , Jun 22, 2009
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        -No, the chicken layer pellets are poultry feed for laying hens. It is grain based feed but if you want complete ingredients maybe check the label on the bag at your feed store. Steve G.

        fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com, yarrow@... wrote:
        > So are chicken layer pellets similar to Sluggo (iron phosphate
        > pellets), which is sold as a nontoxic (to pets and wildlife) snail
        > and slug remedy at about $5-10 (est.) a pound in the U.S.? What's in
        > them? Do birds eat them, or do you need to hide them (as with Sluggo)?
        > At 11:00 PM +0000 6/22/09, grannis04 wrote:
        > ---Micheal, I don't know what a chicken later pellet would be but
        > chicken layer pellets are fed to laying hens. This really works and
        > is very inexpensive. A 50lbs. bag is about $12.00 here. Good luck,
        > Steve G.
        > >
        > >
        > > Steve, what is a chicken later pellet?
        > > Michael
        > >
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