Re: [fukuoka_farming] Re: natives/non-natives
- I totally agree!! Not to mention the fact that it means we have a connection
with the Earth and life and on some level help sustain ourselves---with the
help of the Earth...
----- Original Message -----
From: "blugra" <did_not@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 8:10 AM
Subject: [fukuoka_farming] Re: natives/non-natives
> --- In fukuoka_farming@y..., "Wendy" <journee@a...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > As an ecologist, I definitely do not advocate planting non-native
> > They can have many different neg. effects on the natural
> envioronment, some
> > of which J.P. mentioned.
> I am aware of the negative over all impact of non-native species. And
> agree, thats why I brought up the discussion.
> However, almost all of our food crops are non-native. I do not know
> the origin of most of the "kitchen garden" variety of
> plants...lettuce, beans, peppers, squash, etc. I know that tomatoes
> and potatoes come from S. America. I live in N. California. Native is
> defined how? How large a region...a continent? And regarding the
> kitchen garden, it is not something that spreads wild (?) especially
> in an urban context. (Chuckles...cities themselves are non-native).
> I just pointed out on another board that was discussing nuances of
> ecological choice that we often end up disputing the fine points,
> missing the larger issue. In this case someone had pointed out that
> one of our largest and most neglected set of choices (after fuel
> consumption) is what we eat and more specifically meat. Cattle are by
> far the largest contributor to greenhouse gasses and a major polluter.
> So much so that the Union of Concerned Scientists reported that the
> choice of how much or IF to eat meat was the next most serious
> environmental consumer choice after fuel consumption (which car,
> public transport etc.)
> So over and against native-non native questions the idea that a
> consumer would have a kitchen garden and eat from it moving toward
> less meat consumption is still progress in my book.
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- Hi all,
I just need to briefly interject one point. While yes I agree there are too
many people in the world, a bigger problem is overconsumption by the few in
the so-called developed world, many of whom actually believe all this stuff
is what they need and are used to, and our push to have the rest of the
world desire and also be dependant on lots of our junk vs. meeting basic
needs naturally and locally without destruction and disrespect.
It is an important note, because it actually places blame and belittles the
rest of the world and is usually us white folks or other from the "developed
world" who focus it that way. Meanwhile we consume 40% of the world's
resources and cause major environmental destruction, depletion, etc. etc.
Someone told me that every one American born is equivalent to 10 individuals
in terms of consumption, etc. I believe it.
I find it important daily to question that which us privileged and spoiled
believe to be reality in terms of needs, actions, thoughts, etc.