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  • Castillo Gallery
    thanks to all who have responded to my email...this concept of group emailing reflects the paradigm of multi-functioning tasks that is so often referred to by
    Message 1 of 1 , Oct 30 8:59 AM
      thanks to all who have responded to my email...this concept of group
      emailing reflects the paradigm of multi-functioning tasks that is so often
      referred to by those who practice permaculture and the like

      questions:
      1. a bookstore told me all of fukuoka's books are out of print, hard to come
      by, sell fast at high prices when they are available...any thoughts on this?
      (it holds true after an Amazon.com search)

      2. even though plastic mulching is not adherent to natural farming
      practices, are there physiological reasons NOT to use it for a small portion
      when no other source is immediately or practically available...in a pinch,
      so to speak?

      3. is it worth trying to rig a crude screening device on my flood irrigation
      source to eliminate the unwanted millions of my neighbors' seeds?


      after gathering from sources i have decided to plant in these guilds this
      fall:

      a. wheat, rye, barley, oats, vetch and clover (white or red, not sure..i'd
      like to do both)
      b. mini-guilds of perennial herbs
      c. poppies and other flowers
      d. local species

      thanks terry


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Chris Sawyer <css@...>
      To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com <fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com>
      Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:10 AM
      Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming]


      >I think that red clover, if my resources are correct will produce the most
      >nutrients. It also has a root that can penetrate up to 8 feet. One must
      >inoculate the seed to get the nitrogen fixation rate. I have used it for
      >several years as our cover crop and now it is everywhere. It also grows
      taller
      >than the white and works better at crowding out some weeds. Of course the
      >perennial weeds will not be affected by most any attempts at smothering
      with
      >cover crops.
      >
      >Larry Haftl wrote:
      >
      >> Hello Terry,
      >>
      >> The best website I found with seedball information is Jim Bones'
      >> www.seedballs.com. I think it might be worth your time to check it out.
      >>
      >> Have you thought of planting a green manure cover crop like white clover?
      I
      >> don't know if white clover is appropriate in your area, but from what
      I've
      >> gathered from Fukuoka's book "The Natural Way of Farming" it seems like
      the
      >> place to start. To quote from the book:
      >>
      >> "Yet, although cultivation without the use of chemical fertilizers is
      >> possible, crops cannot immediately be grown successfully without
      fertilizers
      >> on fields that are normally plowed and weeded. ...one must make an
      effort
      >> to return to that natural state which preceded the development of the
      >> methods of farming used by man."
      >>
      >> This passage, together with several other parts of the book, have led me
      to
      >> believe that the way to get the process going on my patch of dirt is to
      seed
      >> the whole place in white clover in the next week or two and to make and
      >> spread the seedballs in the next month or so. In an average year we get
      >> about 40 inches of rain. From what I've read it seems that the seedballs
      >> need at least 10 to 12 inches of rain to decompose and release the seeds
      >> properly. That should be no problem here, but it may be where you are at.
      >>
      >> Using the white clover cover crop is supposed to put nitrogen into the
      soil,
      >> loosen the soil, add organic matter, and suppress "weeds" by crowding
      them
      >> out and not giving them a chance to grow. It will be interesting to see
      to
      >> what extent this really happens.
      >>
      >> Hope this is of some use to you.
      >>
      >> Larry Haftl
      >> Journalist * Photographer * Videographer
      >> www.LarryHaftl.com
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message -----
      >> From: Castillo Gallery <castilloga@...>
      >> To: <fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com>
      >> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 6:10 AM
      >> Subject: [fukuoka_farming]
      >>
      >> > hi
      >> >
      >> > this is my first involvement in an email group like this...thanks for
      your
      >> > time
      >> >
      >> > 1. after 11 years of "jeavons" style modified gardening (i irrigate
      with
      >> > ditch systems called "acequias" here in new mexico) i want to expand
      and
      >> > work with the principles expounded by fukuoka
      >> >
      >> > 2. i am at 7000 feet...semi-arid...old fertile pasture land adjoining a
      >> > river...huge cottonwoods to the south and east partially shading the
      >> > plot....about 1/3 acre i'm looking at working with for this project
      >> >
      >> > 3. water source availability is variable...either a lot or a little or
      >> none
      >> >
      >> > 4. after 11 years fallow, i turned it over with a plow this summer
      >> thinking
      >> > i would reseed it to regain its pasture value...funny how nature sent
      back
      >> > only the things i didn't want back! i listened to its message
      >> >
      >> > 5. at the end of october i want to enact a natural principle;
      perrenials
      >> and
      >> > annuals: vegetables, ornamentals, etc
      >> >
      >> > 6. questions:
      >> >
      >> > a. any recommendations on types of seeds to plant this time of year?
      >> > b. i am worried about spreading undesirables to neighbors land...any
      >> > thoughts?
      >> > c. are seedballs worth the effort this time around? i feel pressed for
      >> time
      >> > to get some seed out there and i am not a full time gardener by any
      means
      >> > d. any tips for the uninitiated natural farmer?
      >> >
      >> > thanks! i am curious to see how this email group works!
      >> >
      >> > terry
      >> >
      >>
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