Re: [fukuoka_farming] More danger?
- BT Benjaminson wrote:
> Steve,People really are in denial about PO, thinking that technology will bail
> Thanks for sharing that PO info on this list. I am currently working through
> my deep shock at the PO information I've been obsessively collecting of
> late, and am now getting set to establish an ecovillage with the intent of
> weathering what might come by creating a fully sustainable, resiliant
> community as quickly as possible. BTW I am continually advocating to my
> group to forget about biodiesel etc. and use horses instead. They might
> eventually get it.
us out with no change to the standard lifestyle. I don't think so. Your
advice about horses is right on. In fact, I heat my house (cold winters
in NH, USA) with wood that I cut on my land and pull to the woodshed
with my big draft horse. There's a fair number of draft horse folks
around here, and us relatively new people are trying hard to keep the
> Unfortunately, the existing community in which my group intends to buy landFukuoka has said that dumping huge quantities of seeds from airplanes is
> (up to 4500 dunams/1000 acres) has been subject to agritorture for the last
> 50 years and the soil is dead as dead can be.
> Do you or does anyone else on this list know of really broadscale attempts
> at using fukuokan methods to regenerate the productivity of that much land?
> I recall some mention on this list of someone tossing millions of seed balls
> out of airplanes. Can I rent an airplane that is normally used for crop
> dusting? You betcha I actually could!
the way to go - he felt it was the only way to the coverage in time to
put Earth back on an even keel...
> What about using a cement mixer truck to mix up the seed balls? I am notEvery place is so different. Every time one of us decides to apply
> Do you know anyone who has combined fukuokan techniques (impurely)with other
> regnerative ag/permaculture techniques such as swale building (also called
> bunding) or net and pan? We're dealing with a semi-desert so I can imagine
> seed balls will do much better if they land in swales than just anywhere.
> Also how can a first planting of NFTs in a former wheat or potato field be
> combined with seeding it? And we also have to be cautious of not
> contaminating any remaining conventional fields with windblown "weed" seeds
> from our regenerating fields.
> Bat-Tzion Benjaminson
> Negev, Israel
Natural Farming to our land, it is a new thing, because it is a unique
place. I think you will be answering a lot of your own questions as you
go along :-) To me, Natural Farming is really a handful of simple but
powerful ideas and attitudes - the application is something for me to
work out. How many times have I confronted a problem of pests or weeds
or something and said to myself "how would Fukuoka-san approach this?".
That usually calms me down, and then I know what to "do". Growing
vegetables in New Hampshire USA is, shall we say, a bit different from
growing rice in Southern Japan :-)
Good luck with your project!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Gage" <sgage@...>
> To: <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming] More danger?
>> The idea of supplying more than a tiny fraction of the world's energy
>> demand from biomass (be it ethanol, biodiesel, whatever) is absurd on
>> the face of it. Let's put it this way - world annual petroleum
>> consumption is the equivalent of about 400 years-worth of total current
>> planetary primary production by vegetation. So if you turned every
>> growing thing into ethanol with 100% efficiency, it still doesn't really
>> get you that far. The energy density of petroleum is really amazing.
>> That's what "we" are addicted to - that, and what seemed like a cheap
>> price (because all the externalities and subsidies were hidden).
>> All that corn being grown for ethanol is the product of petroleum based
>> agritorture, I mean, agriculture. Even if you go to switch grass or one
>> of the other marginal crops being talked about, the huge production
>> numbers they always like to cite are based on heavily irrigated,
>> fertilized, etc., industrial ag, not some semi-wild ditchweed operation.
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