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Re: [fukuoka_farming] Re: onion weed

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  • Michael Worham
    Hello All, I don t know if this would be an option, or whether your land could support the weight of a tractor or team of horses, but have you considered
    Message 1 of 6 , Aug 19, 2004
      Hello All,

      I don't know if this would be an option, or whether
      your land could support the weight of a tractor or
      team of horses, but have you considered mowing the
      area, then using a disc harrow? This would incorporate
      the onionweed into the surface soil layer without
      tilling it. If you applied a layer of alfalfa mulch as
      Deb suggests, then this would encourage an even faster
      degradation of the onionweed organic material and
      encourage soil life, making it ready to plant-up in
      just a few weeks.

      I know that this is becoming a more popular method of
      preparing an area for planting, as as previously
      mentioned there is no tillage. It would still be
      susceptible to soil compaction however, but is a
      viable alternative to using black plastic for the
      reasons that Deb points out below.

      All the best,

      --- pollywog <debhlv@...> wrote:

      > ---I would believe the black plastic would indeed
      > cook the soil, and
      > the creatures who live in it.
      > I have done garden and flowerbed work for my bosses,
      > all of whom love
      > using black plastic as mulch. I cringe everytime I
      > look at a new spot
      > they want me to work and see that blasted stuff.
      > Under it, without
      > fail, the soil is dead, concrete-like, and pale.
      > Nothing alive in it.
      > It's a heartbreaking sight.
      > I take it onionweed is something different from wild
      > onions? Do you
      > know the botanical name of it, by any chance?
      > If onionweed truly hates nitrogen, and you want to
      > try a mulch on it,
      > perhaps a good layering of organic green mulch-
      > alfalfa/clover bales
      > broken open and tossed around, say. Here in SC Iowa,
      > a huge round bale
      > goes for 25 dollars american.
      > It sounds too large an area to effeciently try a
      > lasagne method, but
      > don't know your own situation.
      > There should be more good info coming your way here,
      > Elinor gave some
      > good suggestions and I'm sure others will have more
      > for you. deb
      > In fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com, Elinor Jean
      > <u3288545@a...> wrote:
      > > Hi there,
      > > I've been discussing your problem with some
      > friends and we came up
      > with a
      > > few options for the onion weed:
      > >
      > > 1. Would be to cover it in strong black plastic
      > for summer and
      > hopefully
      > > cook it. But I'm always worried about the effect
      > this has on the
      > soil: does
      > > it cook the worms too? If anyone has comments on
      > this I would
      > appreciate
      > > them. And would the effect go deep enough to get
      > the bulbs of the
      > onion weed?
      > >
      > > 2. Our other suggestions are along the lines of
      > William's.
      > > > Plant in amongst it good strong plants to
      > out-compete with it.
      > William's
      > > idea of chard with good strong roots and big
      > leaves sounds good. As is
      > > using straw. If you try this I would be really
      > keen to find out how
      > you go.
      > > > I have heard that onion weed hates nitrogen. I
      > don't know how
      > true this
      > > is. But you could also think of starting to grow
      > something like white
      > > clover in amongst it, to hopefully change the soil
      > composition to
      > have more
      > > nitrogen.
      > >

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