Re: [fukuoka_farming] Natural Farmers in Oz
- Hi Jamie,
Thanks for the compilation on the aboriginal use of grass seeds.
However doesn't this constitute gathering rather than natural farming?
To me, gathering is the ideal and natural farming is a substitute that
we have been reduced to using due to the destructiveness of our
- Actually it is Jason from Maap country S.E. Oz, nevermind.
Thanks for the reply, yes i'd agree that the history is different to
natural farming but the philosophy and practice integrated together
are the same nowadays in terms of Fukuoka as the example of Natural
Farming to compare with so called hunter gatherers in Oz. Better
described equably in modern or scientific-informed english english
as ecosystem managers or in aboriginal english as people caring for
for an in english fairly fair treatment of Oz Indigenous people's
philosophy and the past history of establishment and anthropologist
whitefulla's self-lies and projection in trying to understand Indij
Oz 'blackfulla's'. it has taken 200 years or so (until recently) for
whitefulla's officially (exceptions of course are whitefulla's who
shared their lives with 'blackfulla's) to start to fairly or equably
understand Indij Oz 'blackfulla's civilisations, many of them and
their languages, cultures, religions, variety of land management
practices, foods, highly advanced social systems - more advanced
than any european social systems, and so on.
On subject that is important to me in the comparison we are
discussing is the big lie about agriculture: first this words'
history and etymology is from tilling the soil (agrarian and farming
are not words that come from meanings of tilling soil, they mean to
be out in the field...), culture and cultivated when used in english
as an exclusive, elitist or prejudiced term is based on the
pretension that people who till the soil are superior and more
civilised than people who don't - a very big lie and a super-
simplification also. (What have english farmers who practice no-till
farming done toady - have they suddenly within their lifetimes
become inferior humans and less civilised, i hope this point bemuses
you the reader, furthermore have their societies as a whole become
less civilised because of this, it is/was alot of self-serving
racist or prejudiced and uninformed rot when people for example
english have said this type of thing). In healing the earth today
outcomes are equally as important as purposes and the philosophy.
More later, gotta move
see ya - jyaa-ne
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> Hi Jamie,farming?
> Thanks for the compilation on the aboriginal use of grass seeds.
> However doesn't this constitute gathering rather than natural
> To me, gathering is the ideal and natural farming is a substitutethat
> we have been reduced to using due to the destructiveness of our