that is right on , peoples knows that something is wrong in this present system , tell them what will works better and they follow you .
i have been a market commercial farmer and you are in fact just selling ideas , if those ideas sound right to the customers they will support you .
do you know what was my best seller ? wild blackberries despite they are all over this island free for the taking .peoples just liked the idea but din't want to get scrached ..
Hello everyone, I received this today but i think it was meant for us all.
It picks up on some comments I made about the modern market garden business.
>From what Joan says it sounds like I'm being far to pessimistic about the
state of Farmers Markets at least.
And I can back up her words with my own experience of markets here in
France, people who take the trouble to shop at the markets are normally
extremely interested in every detail of production.
From: Joan [mailto:joant94559@...
Sent: lundi 17 novembre 2003 17:10
Subject: Re: many questions - farmers market comment
Pardon me for just jumping in here, but as a manager of four local
farmers markets, I wanted to make you all aware of a trend I have
been watching for the past several years. Part of the reason that
people are shopping at farmers markets is that they are becoming more
aware and sensitive to the fact that they should be eating seasonally
and eating what is grown locally. I don't think that it is at all a
matter of you needing to boost production, or that you should assume
that the general public is expecting you to extend a season or is
simply looking for the newest fad.
Education of the public, in the context of the farmers markets, is
really what it's all about. If the public is taking the time to shop
at a farmers market, rather than taking the easy way out at the
grocery store, then you are looking at a person who is just begging
for information on what you are selling them. They want to know how
it was grown, where it was grown, and what your favorite recipe would
be for serving it.
I know I'm preaching to the choir when I mention this to Les, but I
think it's important for those of you who might not be farmers market
attendees to understand that things are changing at the local farmers
markets and it's a really wonderful sort of change. There is a
spirit of curiosity among the public that I did not see when I
started at the markets in 1995. There is also a slowly growing river
of respect for farmers and the job that they do in getting their
wares to the market. The public that I have been involved with these
past 8 years now listens to the farmer about how things are going on
the field, what varieties are working for them, what eperimentation
has been going on, what new delecacies might be on the table that
they should try. It's becoming a really interesting blend of good
old-fashioned product marketing and environmental sensitivity.
It's not an impossible dream that the field produce what it can
produce and that the public accept that and support it. It's
happening now. If you're not seeing it where you live, then I wonder
if you're looking in the right places for the seed that has been
planted in the community. It might be growing and you're just not
Thanks for your time.
--- In email@example.com, "jamie" <jamie@t...> wrote:
> Hello Les, I'm always leaving some plants in the beds to go to seed
> hoping for vigorous crosses (I'm watching some very mixed brassica
> growing right now, wondering what they're going to be). But clearly
> biennials will need to be cleared out the way to allow the new crop
> through. For the non-root crops (root crops will be totally removed
> the best thing to do is to either cut the plant and lay it on the
> bend it over so it stays flat on the bed - you want to leave all
> possible in the soil and only remove the very minimum (ie the crop
> from the beds. Working in this manner does the least possible to
> soil, which can cause mineralisation and bring 'weed' seeds to the
> If you grow root crops I would ensure you follow them with a crop
> be seeded or perhaps transplanted directly into the mulch to avoid
> the mulch and letting too much air in or weeds seeds to germinate.
> However, on the broader question of natural agriculture and market
> I think the way forward is to actually rethink the whole business,
> for as long as a market gardener follows the dictates of the market
> season extension, popularity, latest fad, bulk, rapid succession
> he/she will forever be demanding their soil to produce unnaturally.
> to see what natural agriculture market gardening might be I think
> actually learn what crops our soils favour by observing closely the
> volunteers and planting their vegetable relatives and then watching
> grow and allowing cross-fertilisation to produce truly native
> must then incorporate these crops into a system that respects their
> I know this is an impossible dream for those already involved in
> gardening, already caught in the treadmill powered by the
> of a population separated from a natural diet. But for those with
> to find an alternative I believe this path offers not only a
> but a good living selling to farmers markets or providing for small
> (Community Supported Agriculture) - the integration of food growing
> local communities is of utmost importance for the future where
> transportation will become much more problematic as oil stocks
> Mechanisation, amendments, constant fiddling with crops to maximise
> colour, storage will be gone - several acres could easily be
> time by a single person...
> PS I'm not sure what a pineapple express storm is?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: les landeck [mailto:offeringsoftheland@y...]
> Sent: samedi 8 novembre 2003 21:25
> To: jamie; fukuoka-farming@y...
> Subject: many questions
> those are all workable ideas, for our home gardens.
> but when you need to produce 500# of restaurant
> quality salad greens or more per week on maybe three
> rotations per bed, the questions become more
> interesting. first is when is a crop finished? the
> money says when the greens are to large, the plants
> say after they have been allowed to form their seed
> for the next generation, and i like the possibility
> that they may cross with their own variety or better
> yet with a wild edible. come winter the wild crosses
> compete better in what looks like green manuring of
> wild edibles and other crosses. but to grow a
> production bed here in our 40 to 60 degree Sonoma
> county winter weather requires undisturbed soil so to
> allow for natural drainage when a pineapple express
> storm hits us. and a good 6" layer of something like
> mushroom compost. this will suppress and cause the
> previous growth to give way much the same as a blanket
> of snow. this than can be direct seeded, any seed
> smaller than spinach i leave uncovered on top the beds
> rain or low flow sprinklers will set the seed just
> fine. germination runs 80% to 90% good yield at a half
> oz. per bed. but when this bed completes it's cycle
> how could i cause these plants to give way in a
> nonviolent way with no soil disruption,as in pulling
> the plants out (and bringing wild seed to the
> surface). or having to add more of the previous
> compost? Les
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