> > What kind of thistle are you dealing with? Canadian? (spread by root as
> > well as seed). It can be very damaging to animal health, covered with
> > spines that can damage a mouth and gut easily.
> > I have never seen it eradicated naturally, never.
> last year a friend ask me to get rid of canadian thisles in her pasture
> infested by it , i brought my goats and let them do the job ( i think it
> just at the begining of flowering stage) . their method was to knock them
> down to be able to move thru the pasture and coming back to them to eat
> wilted leaves , that way no thistles in that pasture manage to go to seed,
> this year i went back in spring and din't notice many thisles
> i observes thisles to be able to go to seed if cut at the flowering stage
> ( just with the juice left in the plant.)
> cutting them low is not a good way as they grow back easy from it ,it is
> best to cut them high ( but without giving them a chance to branch out
> underneath the cut ), in that climate ( rainy in winter) as they are
> water penetrate the stem stagnate there and makes the roots rot . a friend
> cured his pastures that way ,it just had to be thorough.
> an other way i foresee is to change the condition of the soils by growing
> other plants that will make thisle fonction useles or done . I heard some
> peoples deal with thisles by making tea out them and watering the thisles
> with it , letting them rot on the spot will do the same ( replenishing
> minerals missing ).
> in a field that i observed for few years i fenced an aera and made a
> out of it . the field was mowed every year for hay that was taken away,
> nothing was brought back . this field was infested with carrots and daisy.
> on the part i took care i let most of the grass to grow and cut pathways
> access beds made with the mulch of the pathway on ever sides of it . the
> second year the part left alone and the beds and pathways had seen the
> drastic diminution of carrots and daisy ( i used also the flowers of both
> complete flower bouquet i was selling at the market), the 3 rd year very
> of thoses plants were present on my side of the fence and i had to harvest
> thoses flowers in the part that were mowed for hay.what i got from it is
> that because the hay was removed the soil could never not needing thoses 2
> plants while in the part wher i left them play their role after a while
> left room for other plants .
> last resort that i used in planted beds is to pulled the rhyzomes out
> eat them , i used them also as slugs barriers by mulching with them around
> fragile plant .
> by the way i also protected youngs trees from deer by planting roses
> around it ( cuts and dead ), deer din't like to put their noises thru it .
> it is time consumming to cut and plant them thick enough around the plant
> but roses were very abondant and needed to be cut ( a big patch was
> with them and i made a maze of narrow trail thu it ,to plant trees
> among them. deer left them alone there also )
> I have bees and love thisles anyway so never want to get rid of them ( the
> bigger variety of thisles here are worth it to harvest the flower bud like
> artichoke , need gloves to remove the spines and eat the heart,
> In the pyrennees i was harvesting and eating that way the biggest thisle
> that i know of . it grows at ground level and makes a big heart
> by a rosace of leaves ( their name is Carline in france and are often used
> as a decoration once dried .)
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