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Re: [fukuoka_farming] Re: Cover crop options

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  • Nandan Palaparambil
    Hope that rice grows well under the leguminous cover crop. Also controlling cover crop at critical times is another challenge, like Fukuoka san used the
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      Hope that rice grows well under the leguminous cover crop. Also controlling cover crop at critical times is another challenge, like Fukuoka san used the flooding method.
      Regards,Nandan

      --- On Fri, 6/14/13, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...> wrote:

      From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...>
      Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming] Re: Cover crop options
      To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Friday, June 14, 2013, 3:42 PM
















       









      All three leaf plants known as clover if this is invasive can be used

      as ground cover crop.

      Thanks

      Raju



      On 6/13/13, Nandan Palaparambil <p_k_nandanan@...> wrote:

      > Hi,

      > Finally could get the legume identified as desmodium

      > scorpiurus, http://www.saintlucianplants.com/floweringplants/fabaceae/desmscor/desmscor.html

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      > This looks to be promising, I can see this established in some areas on the

      > road sides. They don't agressively creep on other plants and so far haven't

      > seen them beyond 1 feet height. Collected some plants from road side and now

      > planning to plant in the rice field to see if they can establish as a

      > permanent cover crop.

      > Regards,Nandan

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      > --- On Thu, 5/16/13, Nandan <p_k_nandanan@...> wrote:

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      > From: Nandan <p_k_nandanan@...>

      > Subject: [fukuoka_farming] Re: Cover crop options

      > To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com

      > Date: Thursday, May 16, 2013, 10:19 PM

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      > Hi All,

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      > This is a mail which was started some time back to identify some legumes

      > which I could see around. Later I could identify one of it as Alyce clover,

      > Picture 11. I can see this coming on some area of the farm on its own.

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      > Meanwhile found another legume on the roadsides, which I have put as picture

      > 2 and 3. Please let me know if anyone can identify this legume. This looks

      > to be a creeper type, but it does not aggressively creep along other plants.

      > Also its seed is very similar to Alyce clover, so it may be another clover

      > variety. There is a similar variety throughout the farm but it climbs on all

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      > https://picasaweb.google.com/106465841699875745732/CoverCropsOptions

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      > Regards,

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      > Nandan

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      > --- In fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com, Nandan Palaparambil

      > <p_k_nandanan@...> wrote:

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      >> Thanks Norm. The look and feel is like the Silver leaf Desmodium, but will

      >> wait to see the seeds from this, to confirm it.

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      >> All these legumes, even though small and spreads on the ground,

      >> establishes in some areas and if they completely occupy the space then I

      >> can use them as cover crop for rice. But I am not able to see the seeds so

      >> far, but they grow well when a plant is uprooted and put in the soil. But

      >> managing it at this level is difficult.

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      >> Yes, Raju sir uses Subabul, but he is able to find a market for selling it

      >> for fire wood which I don't have, even if it has, it is not attractive. We

      >> had a similar discussion about Subabul in 2008, just saw that !!!

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      >> One person suggested Azolla also for ground cover, but it needs more

      >> water, otherwise that is also an excellent choice

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      >> Regards,

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      >> Nandan

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      >> From: greenie6666 <normbeee@...>

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      >> To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com

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      >> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 3:44 AM

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      >> Subject: [fukuoka_farming] Re: Cover crop options

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      >> Hi Nandan:

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      >> It looks to me that your plant number 2 is Silver leaf Desmodium a legume

      >> that I have here on my place, it is native of South America, also know as

      >> Velcro Vine, the plant is very hairy & will stick to your cloths or

      >> animals coats, also the seed is the same once dry. It's a very wild vine

      >> type plant that can't stand heavy grazing or cutting, but would be good to

      >> improve the soil, if grown in other areas & cut & used as mulch. You

      >> better ask Raju how he uses Subabul, I would think that would have to be

      >> grown in another area also & cut & used for mulch or fed to animals & the

      >> manure used as mulch. I don't know any of the other plants in your

      >> pictures, but they look very similar to native ground covers that grow all

      >> over the land here in my place...regards...Norm Australia.

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      >> http://www.pasturepicker.com.au/Html/Silverleaf_desmodium.htm

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      >> --- In fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com, "Nandan" <p_k_nandanan@> wrote:

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      >> > I have a habit of looking for suitable cover crops in and around my

      >> > farm. As part of this I can see Subabul which gets easily established in

      >> > the farm. Underneath each grown up tree, there are hundreds of

      >> > saplings..It looks to be a good option since they can be easily

      >> > established in the coconut/banana area of my farm, but one worry is that

      >> > since it is a tree, if it will interfere with other plantings, other

      >> > operations. Any inputs?

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      >> > Also I am looking for cover crop options for rice..I have been trying

      >> > horse gram which interferes with rice at the initial stages..horse gram

      >> > grows fast..Fukuoka san used to flood the field at this stage to weaken

      >> > the clover, but that kind of water control is not available with me.

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      >> > I have found two plants in the farm...one has oval shaped leaves..but no

      >> > three leaves in one branch, but has nodules on the root, so I wanted to

      >> > confirm if it is leguminous..any one can identify?

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      >> > Another one has three leaves in one branch, and has root nodules..see if

      >> > anyone can identify them..

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      >> > See the photos

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      >> > https://picasaweb.google.com/106465841699875745732/CoverCropsOptions

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      >> > Regards,

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      >> > Nandan

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