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Re: [fukuoka_farming] Re: Mulching

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  • Sumant Joshi
    Secondly, mud vessels are very expensive, PET bottles are freeeeee!!   Sent from my BSNL landline B-fone Warm regards, Sumant Joshi Tel - 09370010424,
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      Secondly, mud vessels are very expensive, PET bottles are freeeeee!!
       



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      Warm regards,

      Sumant Joshi
      Tel - 09370010424, 0253-2361161



      >________________________________
      > From: Boovarahan Srinivasan <offtown@...>
      >To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
      >Sent: Friday, 15 June 2012 8:09 AM
      >Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming] Re: Mulching
      >
      >I know about clay pot irrigation but since I wanted to have a try on deep
      >pipe irrigation , I just wanted to use the materials that were available at
      >hand. Besides , disposing off PET bottles is a problem nowadays and so I
      >wanted to use them in some effective method.
      >
      >On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:50 PM, p_jayadeep <p_jayadeep@...> wrote:
      >
      >> **
      >>
      >>
      >> Why not use mud vessels instead of the PET bottles ? I have seen people
      >> bury small mud vessels with are filled with water for coconut plants during
      >> summer in the first year or two of the plant.
      >>
      >> One tenets of NF(as I understand from Fukoka and others) is that you need
      >> to grow the right kind of plants that suits the environment. There are
      >> plants that grow in deserts as well. So if the land doesn't get enough
      >> water for longer periods, you need to cultivate plants that would survive
      >> the condition without artificial support(watering, fertilzers etc.)
      >> Examples in the western coastal areas are coconut trees, cashew, jackfruit,
      >> mango trees. While there is no rain available after monsoons, you just
      >> don't need any real support for these trees to survive the harsh summer
      >> with mulching only.
      >>
      >> I was also very surprised to see some banana plants survive the summer and
      >> produce in our coffee farm without any watering or applying fertilizers.
      >> These were not the typical planned cultivation where you usually plant it
      >> in lines, water it and provide support etc.
      >>
      >> So I wouldn't use the PET bottles for any NF experiments - leaching of the
      >> plastic used for PET bottles can be really damaging for the soil as well.
      >> That sounds like cutting corners to me.
      >>
      >> Jayadeep
      >>
      >>
      >> --- In fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com, Boovarahan Srinivasan <offtown@...>
      >> wrote:
      >> >
      >> > Use of PET bottles for deep pipe irrigation can not be avoided in the
      >> > present circumstances as a matter of test / research. In Japan people get
      >> > frequent rains and it is enough if one keeps the moisture level by
      >> adequate
      >> > mulching with available rain. In India the scene is different . For
      >> example
      >> > the last rains we had was in November and for the past 6 months and more
      >> we
      >> > had no rains . The wells have dried up and the water table has gone very
      >> > deep. Condensation of dew during the harsh summer nights was negligible.
      >> In
      >> > this situation we can not fully depend on mulching alone to keep the
      >> > moisture level especially at the root zone. So I wanted to try deep pipe
      >> > irrigation for testing purpose .
      >> >
      >> > I'd be too glad to know if any other method exists under NF .
      >> >
      >> > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Ruthie Aquino <ruthieaquino1@...>wrote:
      >>
      >> >
      >> > > In everybody's experience thick mulch gives good soil.
      >> > > I know people here who use cardboard, newspapers, old carpets.
      >> > > I don't. But I use any green waste or even chop off soft branches from
      >> > > trees.
      >> > > Is the use of PET bottles not in conflict with Fukuoka farming?
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > > Boovarahan S
      >> >
      >> > Chennai.
      >> > 09962662717 (Vodafone) , 08825889492 (Videocon)
      >> >
      >> >
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      >> >
      >>
      >> 
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      >Boovarahan S
      >Chennai.
      >09962662717 (Vodafone) , 08825889492 (Videocon)
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