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  • Nandan
    Naripayar is Moth beans..got it from internet.. Regards, Nandan
    Message 1 of 5 , Nov 9, 2011
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      Naripayar is Moth beans..got it from internet..


      Regards,
      Nandan

      --- In fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com, Nandan Palaparambil <p_k_nandanan@...> wrote:
      >
      > Harish,
      >
      > It is good that you brought up this discussion !!!.
      >
      > I am also looking what cover crop fits our region and criteria is that it should have similar characteristics of clover. It should be leguminous, should choke out weeds, probably allow some weeds (there are some cover crops once they are established it is difficult to remove them and they won't allow any single weed !!!) also and should be easily controllable just like allowing standing water etc..and it should be short so that it can grow underneath the grains.
      >
      >
      > Sun-hemp in April-June is a good plan, but what to use as a cover crop along with rice is some thing to be figured out. Raju sir didn't use any cover crop along rice but still weed control was sufficient. I just tried horse gram thinking that it won't grow much taller and I came to know some local farmers use it and later weakens it by flooding or incorporate to soil using cono weeder.
      >
      >
      > Boovarahan and others - One person suggested me Nari payar (fox beans) as a cover crop for rice and later found a reference about this in the blog below.
      >
      >
      > http://csm-fanaa.blogspot.com/2010/05/ragi-crop-experiences.html
      >
      > Any one knows what is Naripayar?
      >
      >
      > Regards,
      >
      > Nandan
      >
      > www.farming-experiments.blogspot.com
      >
      >
      > ________________________________
      > From: Harish Amur <harishamur@...>
      > To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 11:12 PM
      > Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming] Rice growing - some more update
      >
      >
      >  
      > I am sharing my experience. I am not necessarily responding to the post
      > before mine by Sri. Nandan.
      >
      > We have been trying to grow jowar and bengal gram the NF way. We have been
      > able to grow bengal gram to some extent, however I would have to say that
      > we have failed to grow jowar(sorghum). There are a couple of reasons. Here
      > are some reasons I can think of:
      > 1. Understanding cover crops: I think one of the most important reason is
      > our inability to understand and grow cover crops.
      > 2. NF timings are different: Since we(talking about myself and the team
      > here) lack the knowledge of 'timing' we rely on the local knowledge. I
      > believe the NF cycles vary. We need to understand these cycles with
      > experience as every farm, every locality is unique.
      > 3. Experimenting on large piece of lands: We attempted NF on a large piece
      > of land. We should have confined to a smaller piece which is manageable.
      > This way the experiment could have given us valuable inputs and also not
      > meant losses this season.
      >
      > Can someone please help us understand the cover crop timings? I think I had
      > sent an email on cover crops earlier. I did not get any replies.
      >
      > Here is a typical year plan for my farm:
      > 1. Kharif crop - Paddy Jun/July - Nov :: Mung gram - Nov - March :: Mar -
      > Jun - no crop
      > 2. Rabi crop - Soy bean - July - Oct :: Bengal Gram/Sorghum/Wheat - Nov -
      > March :: Mar - Jun - no crop
      >
      > Should I modify this to:
      > 1. Kharif crop - Sunhemp - April - Jun :: Paddy - Jun/July - Nov (Which
      > cover crop? When to broadcast covercrop seeds?) :: Mung gram - Nov - March
      > 2. Rabi Crop - Sunhemp - April - Jun :: Soy bean - July - Oct (Which cover
      > crop? When to broadcast?) :: Bengal Gram/Sorghum/Wheat - Nov - March :: (Which
      > cover crop? When to broadcast?)
      >
      > Regards,
      > Harish
      >
      > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Nandan <p_k_nandanan@...> wrote:
      >
      > > **
      > >
      > >
      > > Hi All,
      > >
      > > Some more updates on rice growing..
      > >
      > > I have totally 4 rice fields..and in one field I had grown sunhemp which
      > > was cut and mulched 2 weeks back. In another field, grass was growing and
      > > broadcasted rice + horse gram, this broadcasting was done by mother who had
      > > accompanied me this time, I cut the grass using brush cutter and mulched.
      > > The seeds were not enough so could complete only half portion.
      > >
      > > After a week I went there and rice and horse gram had germinated in some
      > > areas well and in some areas it was not seen at all. But in some places it
      > > is grass which is dominating !!!
      > >
      > > I wanted to try transplanting of rice seedlings in the mulch, but couldn't
      > > grow it. So took some rice seedlings from one friend who does organic rice
      > > cultivation and transplanted in other half of the field and in next field
      > > where I was growing sun-hemp. I had my helper and his wife working along
      > > with me. We were using spade to put the seedlings and found that this was
      > > disturbing the soil and effort was too much. My helper friend went and made
      > > a dibbling stick and using that he made holes and started transplaning the
      > > seedlings and work was completed quite faster. This is a really good tool
      > > for transplanting without disturbing the soil.
      > >
      > > In one portion where I had cut the grass/sunhemp 2 weeks back, grass had
      > > grown back, after getting some good rains.So I cut this grass once again
      > > with brush cutter, otherwise there is no chance that rice will survive the
      > > grass. Here the timing is very critical..if I had sown a week or
      > > immediately along with cutting, then this problem wouldn't have beenn
      > > there. But if I miss the window, then to recover in NF, it is a problem.
      > >
      > > In one portion of the field I have broadcasted rice + horse grams and here
      > > there is standing water, so not sure what will happen and it is raining
      > > heavily. May have to make provisions for draining water from field by
      > > tomorrow. Last time when I tried broadcasting seeds after ploughing,
      > > peacocks ate most of the seeds, but this time since seeds are put in the
      > > mulch, it may not be completely visible to them. Earlier I was thinking
      > > sunhemp mulch will be too thick to handle, but after 2 weeks of drying, it
      > > was nothing in the field..
      > >
      > > Another 2 fields are still left out, will be doing some thing soon on
      > > them.
      > >
      > > My camera stopped working, some photos are there in the small mobile
      > > camera, will upload some time soon.
      > >
      > > Regards,
      > > Nandan
      > > www.farming-experiments.blogspot.com
      > >
      > >
      > >
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