Re: [fukuoka_farming] Excellent blog: jordforbindelse (latest: notill & chop&drop, biochar, seedballs)
- Thanks Ruthie for your expressed interest,
where the wild things are
–An especially interesting, unusually cultural aware blog (cross cultural marriage based aware) –New Zealander –Japanese –big Fukuoka Masanobu influence, but different influences and some aspects open mindedly at odds with him too.
On this blog and elsewhere of their materials i've read about their lives and farming in New Zealand and Japan. i've read elsewhere about their learnings and influence on them by, also Professor Haikai Tane (he in NZ Oz China ... "Koorinesian"), who also says he's greatly influenced by late Master Fukuoka Masanobu in turn. Further in turn, Prof. Haikai Tane has been the brains behind popularly famed, televised, published, Australian Peter Andrews of "Natural Sequence Farming" fame;
As not so widely known, and not advertised, in fact, late Master Fukuoka Masanobu is the brains behind not only much of all this above, but really also of the Fukuoka–misappropriation (knowledgeably i advise you all) so called PermaCultUre (–documented facts).
Perhaps Shikigami authors and Prof. Tane are members of our little group here,
big phat! welcome, if you are here;
Our very–much–*partially* in touch with everything 福岡正信 Fukuoka Masanobu and 自然農法 Nature Farming (Natural Law), little group.
Some few of us members here are in touch sometimes with late Master 福岡正信 Fukuoka Masanobu's long term Japanese associates, when available, and i'm continuing my slow learning of Japanese language and culture, currently emphasising learning Japanese kanji (Chinese characters) writing. This learning is motivated much more by the late Master Fukuoka Masanobu based synergy, of my Oz nature farming life practise together with my Japanese language scholarly learning.
all the best,
Mr. Jason Stewart.
On 04/11/2011, at 9:07 PM, Ruthie Aquino wrote:
> Dear Jason,
> I am interested.
> 2011/11/4 Jason Stewart <macropneuma@...>
> > **
> > Thanks Lawrence London Jr,
> > +1 more:
> > -> http://pangwei.wordpress.com/
> > there's so many more genuinely great ones in my research, if any of you're
> > interested and have more time to take up the interest.
> > Mr. Jason Stewart
> > –自然農法人 (shizen nōhō hito)
> > On 04/11/2011, at 4:26 AM, Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:
> > >
> > > Excellent blog: jordforbindelse (latest: notill & chop&drop,
> > > seedballs
> > > http://jordforbindelse.wordpress.com/
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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- "Not a religion at all"
Beyond religion, and all religions are included (of course). And there are so many different languages' ways of evoking. Ineffable ways of evoking, too. ...
Recently this came out on the same (i must read it and 'try out' its contents, have read some before of this kind, but not from such high calibre as HH The Dalai Lama).
Beyond Religion: Ethics for a Whole World
By H.H. the Dalai Lama
Late Fukuoka Masanobu sensei writing originally he got published in 1984,
refer to previous quotation of it:
--Below i've corrected it, for its Yahoo--limitations caused formatting errors, dash character Yahoo rejection errors and updated the citations. Hoping it comes out well, it is important words, words making key part of the solutions, important compassion, important humility, important practise, ... !
best 無為自然 [true nature] with all of you, all life,
Mr. Jason Stewart
Oz (deliberate vernacular for Australia---the word's etymology is a bit problematical!)
G'day friend Yugandhar and all,
I don't have a scanner but i do have fingers! no scanner at all nor ready access to one with others at the moment. So here goes:
福岡正信 Fukuoka Masanobu
自然に還る (shizen ni kaeru)
Published by 春秋社 (Shunjūsha):
vii 362p 17p of plates ill. 20cm
out of print ISBN 978-4-393-74104-7;
Enlarged and revised edition
out of print ISBN 978-4-393-74114-6;
New enlarged edition
xvi 488p 8p of plates ill. 18.8x13cm
in print ISBN 978-4-393-74146-7.
The Road Back to Nature – Regaining the Paradise Lost
translated by Frederic P. Metreaud
first edition 1987 Aug.
377p 8p of plates
out of print ISBN 978-0-87040-673-7.
"Copyright 1987 by Masanobu Fukuoka."
"Understanding that goes only three quarters of the way" end of 275 - 276
Take the Christian cross (♱), the Buddhist sign (卍), and the shinto symbol (土), which represents a cross planted in the earth. These and many other religious marks conceived by man have something in common. I believe that they all try to express the effacement of the world of relativity (relative thought) by doing away with right and left, up and down.
What sense do the words of Christ take on for people climbing the mountain from below? When they see a cross before the summit, the mark on the cross and the doctrine for which it stands appear to be their final destination. Shinto believers who climb part way up the mountain will see a Shinto gateway and think this to be the highest deity. Those climbing from the south will happen upon a Buddhist temple and think that the Buddha is present within the temple---as if the Buddha dwelled in Buddhist scriptures.
This is as far as we can go in anything we do---sensing, arguing, speaking. The summit is beyond our reach; we can never go more than three-quarters, or perhaps nine-tenths, of the way to the top. That is the limit to what we can understand. If we could stand on the summit, we would be able to see God, but although God cannot be seen on the way up the mountain, we come under the impression that we do indeed understand God, and even dare to speak of Him. But God lies in the sky (absolute world) beyond the summit (relative world). He cannot be described or depicted through writing, speech, or graphic images.
In America, I met some people of the Jewish faith. I spoke all night with them about the religion and thought of the Jews. I found that they have truly wonderful ideas, but in the end they are extremely rigid and unyielding. In our discussions of Christianity and Shinto, we agreed nine-tenths of the way up the mountain, but our views differed when it came to the summit itself. If the sky above as seen from the summit may be assumed to be the same, then no matter where one climbs from the view should be identical at that point. The sky above the summit belongs to no one.
This is the same as saying that the sky over the West and [end p 276][next start p 277]
the East, over the Japanese and the Americans, is the same everywhere. Although everything should come together at that point of emptiness of void, because we only go eighty or ninety percent of the way, we are unable to do anything but imagine what the view is like from the summit. And that is why everything falls apart. We are unable to merge the concepts of God and bring the religions of the world into a single common unity.
[larger font - bold - minor heading - ]
There Is Only One God-----------------------------------------------
To arrive at the conviction that all these gods are one, we should begin by realizing that while we may be able to look up at a portion of Christ's face from where we stand at the base of the mountain, we are not in a position to know the God experienced personally by Christ. One has to start by knowing one's own position; where one is right now. No matter how much you study the teachings of Gautama, you may come to know something of Gautama, but you cannot perceive the Buddha that he saw. Even assuming that Jesus and Gautama indeed preached God, because the words they used only deepened the confusion of the human mind, these were of no help in aiding others to understand. Their teachings served only to point out just how erroneous and misguided are the knowledge and actions of man and, in so doing, to crack the veneer of man's confidence and force him to reflect. Even a saint is unable to lucidly describe God directly with words and bring people face to face with Him. We are only able to guess at the vision of God grasped by Jesus and Gautama through the words these prophets spoke. If people were profoundly aware of the fact that what they know is but a shadow, a false image of God, then they would be unable to speak and act as if only their God were absolute---the highest God. Only Jesus is able to say, "There is only one, absolute God." Only he who himself has seen God can with full confidence say, as did Gautama, "I am my own Lord
"throughout heaven and earth."
Please some else with an original copy proof read this to check my typing, please.
Auspicious words for me typing here;
Furthermore, i commend to you as really good:
His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama's (of Tibet)
"Towards the True Kinship of Faiths: How the world's religions can come together."
Published in Great Britain by Abacus.
Published in the United States of America by Doubleday Religion.
See here: -> http://www.dalailama.com/biography/books
On 23/11/2011, at 4:33 PM, Jason Stewart wrote [emphasis added later, today. A correction added later, today. Additions in parentheses added later, today]:
> Late sensei Fukuoka Masanobu's nature farming dharma---living true in nature, and philosophy---is the solution (with more than his family farm's one worked example, Raju Titus's, Bhaskar Save's, Akinori Kimura's, ...) ;[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> the solution to an planet--wide--spread problem;
> planet--wide--spread across our earth but not absolutely every part and place, (still nature's jungles, forests, woodlands, grasslands,... with people living in them 100% sustainably) thank God.
> A planet--sized monster problem's solution. It is not a religion at all. Diamond, Jared defines this problem which late sensei Fukuoka Masanobu has comprehensively solved, thus:
> People are also guided by seemingly arbitrary cultural preferences, such as considering fish either delicacies or taboo. Finally, their priorities are heavily influenced by the relative values they attach to different lifestyles˜just as we can see today. For instance, in the 19th-century U.S. West, the cattlemen, sheepmen, and farmers all despised each other. Similarly, throughout human history farmers have tended to despise hunter-gatherers as primitive, hunter-gatherers have despised farmers as ignorant, and herders have despised both.