Re: [fukuoka_farming] Paddy farming experiment
- Dear Nandan !
What a coincidence ! I too started in your way. After buying my land last
September , I immediately opted for natural farming with Zero Budget farming
methods. Being a city dweller I had no experience in farming. (and still the
status quo is maintained !!! [?]).
I scattered about a kilo of rice seeds and sown them in a corner of my land.
After 12 days' time I uprooted the saplings and started transplanting them
with 10 inch spacing . As ill luck would have it , I could not stand the
scorching sun and fainted. So I was sent back to my home with an escort and
the transplanting was finished by others. Soon I returned to Chennai and
employed a fellow to look after the watering work. The land was not tilled /
ploughed and no fertiliser / pesticide was applied. Just two doses of
Jeevamrutham was applied with watering . when I went after 15 days I was
shocked that my field was not watered at all and the few standing rice crops
were dying right before my eyes. When I asked the villager how this happened
he told me that rice could not survive the weeds / grass and so he decided
to abandon farming on his own. At that point of time I could do nothing and
let my village with a depressed heart.
For this season I employed another person and I had to turn to regular
method of ploughing . But the nursery was raised on empty urea bags and
transplanted after 21 days. Manual weeding was done once. No fertliser /
pesticides were applied. And it so happened heavy and continuous rains
lashed our village the rice crops are submerged in water for about two weeks
as of now. I don't know what will be the harvest but i hope to get some
straw atleast if not rice. and I can use the straw for mulching and go in
for Thuvarai plant for the next season.
Now that I am armed with Fukuoka's method , I am going to scatter thuvarai
seeds over the standing rice crops by this month end.
What was the volume of your harvest ?
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Yugandhar S <s.yugandhar@...> wrote:
> Dear Nandan,
> Have a look at this video by Krishna from Solitude farm, Auroville. May be
> you can learn a thing or two from him.
> Natural Farming: non-tillage rice cultivation at Solitude
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Nandan <p_k_nandanan@...> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > Here is a summary of my paddy farming experiment...
> > I started the paddy in my 0.6 acres of land. For two years nothing was
> > on this plot and different types of grass was growing thick, I got it
> > cleared and wanted to do tilling to start with. My plan was to start the
> > paddy after tilling and once the paddy is established avoid tilling in
> > next cycle onwards. But finally I couldn't get a tiller, hence tried the
> > paddy without tilling, transplanted 10 days old paddy which was raised in
> > separate nursery.Transplanting was tried out since grass were growing at
> > fast rate and hence to give paddy some advantage compared to the grass.
> > By the time of transplanting grass was already thick and hence just
> > the grass where I had to plant the paddy. This was done
> > in straight line and at 1 feet distance,but most of the places it became
> > close to 1.5 feet, which was a mistake. I just cut and
> > mulched the grass surrounding, it was labor intensive. I completed the
> > transplanting and after 2 weeks when I visited, the grass was
> > too thick and was completely covering the paddy. I was little
> > but didn't want to leave it at that point. Again cut and
> > mulched the grass and had to spend long hours of effort for this. If I
> > tilled, I am sure, paddy would have established first and
> > by the time grass grows back.
> > Even after cutting and mulching grass grows very quickly back and rate of
> > growth of grass is greater than paddy and grass
> > easily dominate paddy.
> > As it stands paddy farming in grass is a challenge..obviously if it can
> > done easily people would have adopted it in large numbers. The total
> > of planting the paddy and cutting the grass and mulching was 25 person
> > (8 hours a day). But if I had tilled and then planted, it would have been
> > over with 7 or 8 person days.
> > I am not going to leave my no-till paddy at this point, but will continue
> > with my experiments in a small area (0.2 acres) of the
> > land and will go for tilling in the rest of the area as of now. I also
> > wanted to try some tall varieties of paddy which can
> > compete with grass.
> > Please have a look at the pictures..
> > Regards,
> > Nandan
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> Yahoo! Groups Links
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- Hi Jason,
Barking dogs don't bite.
Pass your way.
Like you I think we should talk of things we know, or keep it shut.
2011/10/6 Jason <macropneuma@...>
> **[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> Obviously, you Mr. G are talking about yourself.
> Obviously to anyone of us who have checked our facts before opening our big
> Some facts I did naturallyâ€"forâ€"me check before writing:
> on: Paddy:
> -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy
> -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice#Harvesting.2C_drying_and_milling
> US Websters dictionary:
> -> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paddy
> -> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/paddy
> on: Mr. G's sorry story of military use of so called "psychotic drugs" â€"
> his sorry story "tale" of his own use of quote: "brown heroin" â€" an
> extremely psycho-active drug ('psychotic' is not entirely clear & correct
> English language usage referring to psycho-active drugs or to
> antiâ€"psychoticâ€"drugs, but Freud probably would have described use of
> that choice of words in that context, as a slip). August 2010:
> Quoting the relevant part from his above blog:
> Mr. G: "... Sometimes feeling good isnâ€™t so good for you, like the skin
> rush you get when snorting brown heroin, one of the hazards I was exposed to
> during my time in the U. S. Army. I survived that and lived to tell the
> Righted finally, and so so long ago over.
> PS. I cannot help but have compassion for and hence feel sorry for such
> clearly evidence sicknessâ€"perversity.
> PPS. I have people who know what they are talking about and who are not
> talking about themselves, clearly tell me and demonstrate evidence about me
> to me, that i am mentally very strong and healthy. Even if
> intentionallyâ€"vicious, malignant fighting attacks directed at my person
> result in me briefly feeling reactive depression (this is a healthy, normal
> reactive kind of response when brief). For you to be sure this reactive
> depression is largely because of sadness at the world situation having come
> to the stage where there can exist on a group with our kind of
> kindness/charity/compassionâ€"oriented subject, such clearly cynical,
> malicious, viciousâ€"fighting perversity and psychological projection â€"
> perhaps unconscious psychological projection.
> PPPS. Finito! å®Œæˆ ã ™ã‚‹!
> --- In email@example.com, "Tom Gibson" <camaspermaculture@...>
> ... [snipped it]