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  • Raju Titus
    Dear Sudhiranjan and friends, This is repay in Hindi please use Google translation and please do not close discussion. प्रिय मित्र,
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      Dear Sudhiranjan and friends,
      This is repay in Hindi please use Google translation and please do not close
      discussion.

      प्रिय मित्र,
      जवाब के लिए धन्यवाद. हमने १५ साल हरित क्रांति में बर्बाद
      किये.इस से पहले हमारे खेतों में अच्छी खासी देशी खेती होती थी. ऐसा नहीं था
      जैसा आप कह रहे हैं की लोग भूके मर रहे थे. आज भी उड़ीसा के अनेक आदिवासी
      इलाकों में बिना जुताई खाद से होने वाली खेती देखी जा सकती है जो हर हाल में
      हरित क्रांति से अच्छी है. बिना बिजली,पेट्रोल,रसायन, की खेती जिसमे बीज भी
      किसानो ने बचाए हैं. ये किसान ७०-८० डिग्री के स्लोप में पहाड़ों पर, नदी में भी
      खेती कर रहे हैं.
      http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/4advzWbZiV0luRI5RYu4Sw?feat=directlink%e0%a4%b5%e0%a4%bf%e0%a4%95%e0%a4%be%e0%a4%b8
      के नाम पर हरित क्रांति के नाम पर लाई गई ये योजना हिरोशिमा नागासाकी से कही
      अधिक बर्बादी के लिए ये जिम्मेवार है. भोपाल गेस कांड भी इसकी देन है.लाखों
      आत्म हत्या कर मर गए किसान और मर रहे किसानो के लिए ये जिम्मेवार है. हर साल
      पड़ने वाला सूखा और बाढ़ इसकी देन है. फिर भी आप स्वामीनाथन कृत हरित क्रांति
      को अवार्ड दे रहे हैं. आप इन्हें इस बर्बादी के लिए अवार्ड देते हैं तो ठीक
      है.
      फुकुओका फार्मिंग ग्रुप से हमें यही उम्मीद है. आज कल अनेक एन.जी .ओ. और
      सरकार विदेशी पैसे के खातिर फुकुओका के कामों को ताज्ब्बो नहीं दे रहे हैं इस
      लिए इस विधा का विकास नहीं हो रहा है. किन्तु अमेरिका के ४० % से अधिक किसानो
      ने बिना जुताई की खेती को अपना लिया है. वे जान गए है की जमीन की जुताई एक बहुत
      बड़ा धोका है. ठीक इसी प्रकार अनेक किसान बिना जुताई की ओर्गानिक खेती करने लगे
      हैं. अनेक किसान रसायन का इस्तमाल छोड़ चुके हैं. इस में फुकुओकजो के अनुभवों
      का बहुत बड़ा हाथ है.
      आज जो ओबामा जल -वायू परिवर्तन की बात कर रहे है उसमे no till farming का बहुत
      बड़ा योगदान है. अनेक किसान स्ट्रा को अब जलाते नहीं हैं वापस खेतों में डालने
      लगे हैं. अनेक किसान खेतों में केंचुओं को गिनने लगे है.
      ये सब फुकुओका फार्मिंग की देन है.
      इस लिए हमारा निवेदन है की इस ग्रुप के सदस्यों को कम से कम खेती करने के लिए
      की जारही जमीन की जुताई से होने वाले नुकसान के प्रति सचेत रहना चाहिए. इसे
      परखने के लिए यदि जंगलों को देखना शुरू कर दें तो हकीकत सब समझ में आ जाएगी.
      धन्यवाद

      On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Sudhiranjan Mandal <
      sudhiranjan1959@...> wrote:

      >
      >
      > Dear Raju Titus,Nanadan Palaparambil amd all esteemed members of the group,
      > I had simply no idea that this small advertisement sent by
      > IGNOU,should arouse such emotions within the group.I t definitely shows the
      > intensity and passion for the Fukuoka farming method.
      > However,having initiated this,unknowingly,i feel that I should
      > present my views also on certain facts of the yesteryears.
      > While many os in the group feel strongly about the green revolution
      > and Dr,Swaminathan; we are actually seeing only one side of the coin.Buring
      > the period,our country was facing a severe food shortage..Dr.Swaminathan had
      > was able to provide food for the starving millions, with the green
      > revolution.This is the other side of the coin.Dr.Swaminathan,being an
      > agricultural scientist,did what he was expected to do by his countrymen-
      > increase productivity and solve the food crisis.Raju bhaiyya,you cannot
      > want to punish him for that.
      > The evil effects of chemical fertilisers and pesticides were not
      > known at that time.Air pollution,water pollution,sound pollution,water
      > conservation,land degradation-were all alien words.Anybody with a
      > motorcycle/scooter/telephone would be considered to be of very high standing
      > and a VIP in the locality.Even mechanisation in farms were a prerogative of
      > the big landlords only,that too in selected areas..In short,those were the
      > days.of the green revolution.
      > Awareness about the demerits of HYV method of cultivation iha
      > increased,fairly recently..We find more and more people showing interest in
      > organic and natural farming now It is indeed a great victory for natural
      > farming when we see the photos of Raju Bhaiyyas farm with all its
      > glory.However,we tend to forget that very many farmers have reverted to
      > other methods,as they could not obtain the expected yields in natural
      > farming methods.Have we been able to guide such people?Or prevent them from
      > going back to the old methods?WHY were they not successful?Much more
      > analysis is needed,much more information is required.
      > There is a huge nexus between political vested interests,chemical
      > fertiliser manufacturers and ,traders,with purely profit interests.There is
      > tremendous opposition to natural farming by these groups:I needl not
      > elaborate.on this.A farmer who returns to chemical farming is always
      > heartily welcomed back.For a farmer whose livelihood comes from the
      > land,will not care whether it is natural or chemical as long as he gets the
      > productivity,for his and family's sustenance.Think about it.
      > So,methods must be found to GUARANTEE the productivity by natural
      > farming,educating the farmer of the ill effects of chemical farming ,and
      > support and buildup of morale in the interim period from sowing to
      > harvest..
      >
      > While going through the ebrochure of APSS,I did not find any menton
      > of chemical or pesticides.I am inclined to think that it is very good
      > education for all of us who may be interested.The concerns of decreasing
      > natural resources,sustainability,development of the community etc,may
      > be better understood .And ,yes,Nandan,I feel Dr.Swaminathan has embraced
      > Natural Farming.
      > I would request alll group memebers to treat this discussion as closed
      > ,from my side
      > regards,
      > Sudhiranjan
      >
      >
      >
      > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...<rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>
      > wrote:
      >
      > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>
      >
      > Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming] APSS of IGNOU
      > To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com <fukuoka_farming%40yahoogroups.com>
      > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:41 AM
      >
      >
      > HINDI PLEASE USE GOOGLE TRANSLATION.
      > मित्रों,
      > हम २५ सालों से बिना जुताई की कुदरती खेती कर रहे हैं. इतने सालों के बाद कभी
      > हमने मुड कर नहीं देखा.इस से हमारे खेतों में जबरदस्त सुधार आया है.हमारे खेत
      > हरियाली से भर गए हैं. एक ओर जहाँ हमारे उथले कुए भरी गर्मी में लबालब रहते
      > हैं वहीँ हमारे पड़ोसियों के कुए बरसात में खाली रहने लगे हैं. बिना जुताई
      > ,खाद और दवाई के हमारा उत्पादन हरित क्रांति से अधिक चल रहा है. आज जो
      > पर्यावरण का संकट आया है और तमाम किसान आत्म हत्या कर रहे हैं और गरीब हो रहे
      > हैं. ये गहरी जुताई आधारित खेती करने के कारण हो रहा है और ये हरित क्रांति
      > की
      > देन है.
      > हमारा ये कहना है खास कर भारत के सन्दर्भ में की कोई भी ऐसी विधि जो किसानो के
      > लिए नई हरित क्रांति के रूप में ली जा रही है.जो जल-वायू परिवर्तन की समस्या
      > के समाधान में सक्षम है उसे यहाँ इस ग्रुप में बताना चाहिए.
      > इतने सालों के अनुभवों के आधार पर हम अब ये कह सकते हैं की फुकुओका फार्मिंग
      > से अच्छी कोई खेती करने की विधि उपलब्ध नहीं है.जैविक और हरित का गोरख धंधा
      > अब
      > अधिक नही चलने वाला है. बिना जुताई की खेती अब जड़ ज़माने लगी है. इस का ज्ञान
      > फुकुओका ने दिया है. ये सही है की इसे समझने में देरी है हो रही है.सरकारी
      > और
      > गेर सरकारी संस्थाएं आर्थिक लाभ के खातिर अपनी जवाबदारी से हट रही है.
      > स्वमिनाथंजी हमारे फुकुओकाजी के आगे कुछ भी नहीं है. स्वमिनाथंजी की हरित
      > क्रांति ने हमारी हरयाली को नस्ट किया है उन्हें सजा मिलनी चाहए.
      > राजू
      >
      > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Sudhiranjan Mandal <
      > sudhiranjan1959@... <sudhiranjan1959%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
      >
      > >
      > >
      > > Dear Mr.Rajagopal,
      > > I had only sent a notification of IGNOU regarding its APSS course.I
      > > had not made any comments or recommendations.
      > > The IGNOU is a national university.I am also aware of the after
      > effects
      > > of chemical fertilisers,pesticides,as also the the hybrid seeds which
      > > require very high level of inputs for production,etc.
      > > But I also do not belive that the path of natural farming as
      > advised
      > > by Fukuoka,in Japan is full and complete.You may be aware that this
      > method
      > > of natural farming has not worked well in all parts of the world,in all
      > > places.Very many discussions in this regard have taken place in this
      > group.I
      > > am not talking about the successes,only about the failures.
      > > Learning can come from many sources;even from sources,which may not
      > be
      > > appealing.To be a true follower of natural farming, one must first have
      > the
      > > conviction he is on the right path, It is the intelligent learning and
      > > understanding that becomes important,and not the source.
      > > regards,
      > > Sudhiranjan
      > >
      > > --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Arjun Rajgopal <parshini.kadavu@...<parshini.kadavu%40yahoo.com>
      > <parshini.kadavu%40yahoo.com>>
      > > wrote:
      > >
      > > From: Arjun Rajgopal <parshini.kadavu@...<parshini.kadavu%40yahoo.com>
      > <parshini.kadavu%40yahoo.com>
      >
      > > >
      > > Subject: Re: [fukuoka_farming] APSS of IGNOU
      > >
      > > To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com <fukuoka_farming%40yahoogroups.com><fukuoka_farming%
      > 40yahoogroups.com>
      >
      > > Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 8:59 AM
      > >
      > >
      > > Mr Sudhiranjan,
      > >
      > > Please do not insult fantastic farmers from all over the world who are in
      > > this group by sending in such nonsense.
      > >
      > > I hope you know this is a fukouka natural farming group, which for your
      > > information is a much more advanced science which Poison farming
      > promoters
      > > & Monsanto CEO's like Messrs Swaminathan has no place. They have looted &
      > > destroyed the farmers & the earth enough & whenever they feel guilty or
      > > whenever there is some unspent money left to be accounted they conduct
      > > these rubbish seminars on sustainability !
      > >
      > > Arjun
      > >
      > > ________________________________
      > > From: Sudhiranjan M <sudhiranjan1959@...<sudhiranjan1959%40yahoo.com>
      > <sudhiranjan1959%40yahoo.com>
      > > >
      > > To: fukuoka_farming@yahoogroups.com <fukuoka_farming%40yahoogroups.com><fukuoka_farming%
      > 40yahoogroups.com>
      >
      > > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:07:39
      > > Subject: [fukuoka_farming] APSS of IGNOU
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > An IGNOU Initiative for our Sustainable Future
      > > APPRECIATION PROGRAMME ON SUSTAINABILITY SCIENCE
      > >
      > > A collaborative programme of
      > > M.S. Swaminathan Research Foundation
      > > and
      > > Chair for Sustainable Development,
      > > Indira Gandhi National Open University
      > >
      > > More Details:
      > > • Programme Objectives
      > >
      > > • Special Features of the Programme
      > >
      > > • Duration
      > >
      > > • Medium of Instruction
      > >
      > > • Eligibility Requirements
      > >
      > > • Credit System
      > >
      > > • Programme Structure
      > >
      > > • Fee Structure
      > >
      > > • About the Online Programme
      > >
      > > Our planet is now in an era of climate change and environmental decay.
      > The
      > > basic life support systems essential for sustainable advances in farm
      > > productivity are now facing threats because of the enlargement of the
      > > ecological foot print of human beings. Therefore, it is essential for
      > all
      > > concerned with both sustainable human security and the health of our
      > > environment to understand the relationships between human kind and
      > > nature. Only then, living in harmony with nature will become possible.
      > It
      > > is only in this manner that we can ensure that all development programmes
      > > help not only the present generation but the generations yet to be born.
      > > This is the purpose of sustainability science, which aims to provide the
      > > theoretical foundations and practical strategies for achieving the goal
      > of
      > > concurrent progress in economic and ecological security. IGNOU has
      > > therefore introduced this Appreciation Programme as part of its efforts
      > to
      > > help our country
      > > to
      > > achieve the goal set by Mahatma Gandhi that we should live in a manner
      > > keeping in view that "nature provides for everybody's need but not for
      > > everyone's greed".
      > >
      > > Programme Objectives
      > >
      > > • The core objective of this programme is to build the capacity of
      > > policy makers, administrators, scientists and educators as well as the
      > > general public in the science and art of environmentally, economically
      > and
      > > socially sustainable development.
      > > • The course will help the participants to develop an Agenda 21
      > Plan
      > > of Action for their respective village/town/ city
      > > • To help those involved in agriculture to launch an era of
      > > ever-green revolution which can help to enhance productivity in
      > perpetuity
      > > without ecological harm.
      > >
      > > Special Features of the Programme
      > >
      > > The special feature is conceptualization and development of excellent
      > study
      > > material by the eminent experts in the country under the guidance of
      > Prof.
      > > M.S. Swaminathan. The contributors to the programme include: Professor
      > > M,S.Swaninathan, Prof. P.C. Kesavan, Dr. K. Balasubramanian, Ms. Ganga
      > Vidya
      > > , Dr. A.A. Nambi, Mr. P. Senthilkumaran , Dr. G.N. Hariharan , Dr. S.K.
      > > Chopra and Dr.Ajay Parida. The programme has been developed in
      > collaboration
      > > with the M.S. Swaminathan Research Foundation.
      > > Duration
      > > The programme can be completed in a minimum period of one month and a
      > > maximum period of one year.
      > > Medium of Instruction
      > > The Programme is offered in English.
      > > Eligibility Requirements
      > > The programme is open to the candidates who are Graduate in any
      > discipline
      > > or its equivalent from any recognised University. The preference will be
      > > given to the post graduate scholars, scientists and policy makers working
      > in
      > > the areas of agriculture, rural development, environmental science and
      > > sustainable development.
      > >
      > > Credit System
      > >
      > > The appreciation programme on sustainable science is of four credits. One
      > > credit involves 30 hours of study by the students. Thus, for completing
      > this
      > > course a student has to put in 120 hours of study.
      > >
      > > Programme Structure
      > >
      > > The programme is of one month duration and consists of four blocks. The
      > > fourth block refers to Project work based on practical exercises and case
      > > studies/ field visits. In order to be eligible for the award of the
      > > certificate, a student has to complete the following four blocks.
      > > Block 1 - Introduction
      > > Block 2 – Evergreen Revolution
      > > Block 3 – Threats : Climate Change
      > > Block 4 – Project Work (Practical Exercises/Case studies/Field visits)
      > > The detailed structure of appreciation programme on sustainability
      > science
      > > is as follows:
      > > Block 1 - Introduction
      > > Unit 1 – Concept of Sustainability Science
      > > Unit 2 – Population and Unsustainable lifestyle
      > > Unit 3 - Finite sources
      > > Unit 4 - Ecological foundations of basic human needs
      > > Block 2 – Evergreen Revolution
      > > Unit 1 - Green to Evergreen Revolution
      > > Unit 2 - Pathways to EGR (cultivation)
      > > Unit 3 - Sustainable on-farm and non-farm livelihoods (consumption)
      > > Unit 4 - Equity and Market linkages (commerce)
      > > Block 3 – Threats : Climate Change
      > > Unit 1 – Introduction to the science of climate change
      > > Unit 2 – Climate change and natural resources system including energy
      > > Unit 3 – Human dimensions of climate change
      > > Unit 4 - Adaptation and Mitigation
      > > Block 4 – Project Work based on Practical Exercises and Case
      > studies/Field
      > > visits
      > > Unit 1 – Toolkit for setting up Village Knowledge Centres
      > > Unit 2 – Toolkit for setting up Bio- villages
      > > Unit 3 – Tool kit for setting up Community-centric gene-seed-grain- water
      > > bank
      > > Unit 4 - Agenda 21, the Rio Declaration on Environment and Development
      > > Evaluation System
      > > This Programme adopts continuous evaluation system through assignments,
      > > practical work, seminars and term-end examination.
      > > S.No Component Weightage
      > > 1. Continuous assessment through assignments 30%
      > > 2. Term End Examination 70%
      > > 3. Project work Satisfactory Report
      > >
      > > Counselling
      > >
      > > There shall be around 10 -12 counselling sessions of one hour duration
      > > each.
      > >
      > > Project Work
      > >
      > > The purpose is to provide an opportunity to the students to apply the
      > > knowledge they have acquired in course of study on scientific principles
      > and
      > > technological methods underpinning the concept and pathways of
      > sustainable
      > > development. The students may take project work on any of the themes
      > studied
      > > taking into account local field conditions. The Block four provides three
      > > toolkits as an exemplary and an Agenda 21 Plan of Action as base resource
      > > material. The project may be in form of design/ development/ analysis of
      > > village knowledge centres/ bio-village/ community gene seed grain water
      > bank
      > > or any other innovative project related to sustainability science. The
      > > students may also develop a research/ policy paper or prepare a plan of
      > > action based on the recommendations of Agenda 21 Plan of Action.
      > >
      > > Fee Structure
      > > 1. Indian National :
      > > The fee for the programme is Rs. 500/-
      > > 2.Foreign Student :
      > > (a) Admission Fee
      > > Foreign Student - US $40
      > > Foreign National residing in India - US $40
      > > (b) Examination Fee - US $10 for both categories.
      > > Facility for online payment is available through the payment gateway
      > (Axis
      > > Bank & Credit Card) being offered by the University for online
      > programmes.
      > > Student can also pay through Demand Draft (in favour of IGNOU, NewDelhi).
      > >
      > > About the Online Programme
      > >
      > > The Sustainability Science Programme shall be available online on the
      > SAVE
      > > (Sustainable Action and Virtual Education) Platform. It is a complete
      > > virtual learning environment suite covering all the activities from
      > > registration to certification. The following features shall be available
      > to
      > > the registered students.
      > > 1. Walk in admission: Admission will be available throughout the year.
      > > There shall be four cycles in an academic year i.e. January, April, July
      > and
      > > October.The two months period between the two cycles shall be used for
      > > advertisement and registration of the students for the next cycle.
      > > Registration form shall be specially devised with the facility of
      > uploading
      > > scanned certificates, other required documents and photograph.
      > Registration
      > > will be confirmed only after verification of the certificates and payment
      > of
      > > the required admission fee. Facility for online payment shall be
      > available
      > > through the payment gateway (AXIS Bank) being offered by the University
      > for
      > > online programmes.
      > > 2. Integrated multimedia courseware once registered, learners will
      > have
      > > access to personalized learning space (My Page). This includes self
      > > instructional material, related audio/ video, slides, self check
      > exercises,
      > > etc. weaved in one platform.
      > > 3. Online counselling and mentoring – web cast based counselling
      > > integrated with text based chatting facility shall be used for
      > counselling
      > > purposes.
      > > 4. 24×7 learner support: Asynchronous and synchronous modes of
      > > interaction will be used to provide just in time support to learners.
      > > 5. Group based online Seminar: Blogs, chat rooms and discussion forums
      > > and web conferencing facility shall be used for group based seminars.
      > > 6. Online Project platform: Templates shall be made available for
      > > synopsis submission, project uploading and evaluation. Viva voce will be
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