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  • Yugandhar S
    Dear Anne, This concept was popularized in India by Sri Subhash Palekar ( http://palekarzerobudgetnaturalfarming.com ). He uses natural preparations made from
    Message 1 of 10 , Dec 3, 2009
      Dear Anne,
      This concept was popularized in India by Sri Subhash Palekar (
      http://palekarzerobudgetnaturalfarming.com ). He uses natural preparations
      made from cow dung. This is not pure Natural farming as done by Sri Raju ji,
      but is also a very valid method followed in ancient India. I have read his
      books which are based on his intense experiments and observations of
      forests. Sri Subhash Palekar is also an agricultural graduate and took to
      this method of ZBNF after realising the truth.

      Raju Ji,
      Please correct me if anything I have mentioned is wrong.

      Regards
      Yugandhar

      On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Anne Marie Wan <annemariewan@...>wrote:

      >
      >
      > Dear Raju,
      >
      > I have recently come across to this website Zero Budget Natural Farming. Do
      > you follow any of its practices? Did you see any farm in India practising
      > Zero Budget Farming? They seem very interesting.
      >
      > Annemarie
      >
      > 2009/12/4 Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>
      >
      >
      > >
      > >
      > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
      > > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
      > 40gmail.com>>
      > > Date: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:19 AM
      > > Subject: Re: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
      > > To: stephen coleman <stephencoleman95361@...<stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
      > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
      > > >
      > >
      > > Dear friend,
      > > I am growing wheat in winter, mung in summer and rice in rainy season in
      > my
      > > fruit garden. I scatter wheat seeds with mathy(local legume) in the mulch
      > > of
      > > rice straw.
      > > I scatter mung in wheat straw cover and scatter rice seeds in wheat with
      > > pallets. I am taking all in one no monoculture.
      > > i am doing it since last 25 years. My 80% land is in cover of subabaul
      > > trees
      > > for fodder and fire wood. This photo shows that anybody can start N.F.
      > > without use of any fertilizer.Problem of insects and weeds is also
      > related
      > > with the use of compost and chemical fertilizers.If you will stop this
      > the
      > > problem will go wlthin no time.
      > >
      > >
      > http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/vdnWwXt16gcrXgUB_oYzIA?feat=directlink
      > > Raju
      > > Hindi
      > > अधिकतर लोग ये समझते है की बिना जुताई और बिना खाद से खेती करने के पहले कुछ
      > > समय खाद देनी पड़ेगी किन्तु ये गलत है पहले साल से से इस खेती में अछे
      > परिणाम
      >
      > > आते हैं. ये मित्र अमेरिका में पीछे साल से बिना जुताई की खेती कर रहे हैं
      > इन
      > > का कहना है की इन्होने पहले खाद डाल कर शुरू किया अभी भी वे ही कर रहे है.
      > > इन्हें सनल आदि की समस्या आ रही है हमारा कहना है की ये खाद के कारण है.
      > > राजू
      > > (भारत)
      > >
      > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:45 PM, stephen coleman <
      > > stephencoleman95361@... <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com><stephencoleman95361%
      > 40yahoo.com>> wrote:
      > >
      > > > Hi Raju,
      > > >
      > > > I have been growing a garden for 4 years now without tillage and my
      > > yields
      > > > are very good. The biggest problem that I encounter are snails and
      > slugs.
      > > > For a while I had small Chinese chickens which did a very good job but
      > > they
      > > > tended to like vegetables too. My wife didn't like the chickens so I
      > gave
      > > > them away.
      > > >
      > > > The soil that I started with was poor and worn out from constant
      > > cropping.
      > > > I used chemicals to get it started and within about 2 years much of the
      > > > fertility had been restored and I switched over to organic composting.
      > > >
      > > > Yet something was not congruent with what I learned in agricultural
      > > > college, why do the forests grow luxuriantly without man's help? So 4
      > > years
      > > > ago I stopped tilling and composting.
      > > >
      > > > I still weed because the weeds are aggressive and crowd out the
      > > > vegetables. However the weed infestation has been greatly reduced and
      > so
      > > has
      > > > the garden work.
      > > >
      > > > What kind of grain to you grow? I grow small amounts of wheat, barley,
      > > oats
      > > > and triticale.
      > > > The triticale is yielding over 7 metric tons/hectare, without tillage
      > or
      > > > fertilizers.
      > > >
      > > > Stephen Coleman
      > > > California USA
      > > > http://newholisticmedicine.com
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --- On *Wed, 12/2/09, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...<rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
      > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>*
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
      > 40gmail.com>>
      >
      > > > Subject: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
      > > > To: "stephencoleman95361" <stephencoleman95361@...<stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
      > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
      >
      > > >
      > > > Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 9:36 PM
      > > >
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      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      > --
      > Anne
      >
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    • Raju Titus
      Dear friends, I mention earlier that tilling is most harmful activity in agriculture. Most of the ecological problem is directly related with tilling.If no
      Message 2 of 10 , Dec 4, 2009
        Dear friends,
        I mention earlier that tilling is most harmful activity in agriculture. Most
        of the ecological problem is directly related with tilling.If no tilling
        than no need of any natural or unnatural culture or fertilizers.
        fertilizers or culture are required due to soil erosion by tilling. What
        happened when we till, tilled soil do not allow rain water to go in to the
        soil, water flows fast and washed soil.
        (hindi)
        "जीरो बजट खेती" जुताई पर आधारित है. खेती में चल रही जुताई सब से अधिक
        हानिकारक है, जुताई के कारण बरसात का पानी जमीन में नहीं जाता है वह तेजी से
        बहता है अपने साथ मिटटी( खाद) को भी बहा कर ले जाता है.इस लिए खाद और पानी की
        जरुरत रहती है. ये ही फुकुओकाजी की शिक्षा है जिसे हम २५ सालों से करके बता रहे
        हैं.
        raju


        On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Yugandhar S <s.yugandhar@...> wrote:

        >
        >
        > Dear Anne,
        > This concept was popularized in India by Sri Subhash Palekar (
        > http://palekarzerobudgetnaturalfarming.com ). He uses natural preparations
        > made from cow dung. This is not pure Natural farming as done by Sri Raju
        > ji,
        > but is also a very valid method followed in ancient India. I have read his
        > books which are based on his intense experiments and observations of
        > forests. Sri Subhash Palekar is also an agricultural graduate and took to
        > this method of ZBNF after realising the truth.
        >
        > Raju Ji,
        > Please correct me if anything I have mentioned is wrong.
        >
        > Regards
        > Yugandhar
        >
        >
        > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Anne Marie Wan <annemariewan@...<annemariewan%40gmail.com>
        > >wrote:
        >
        > >
        > >
        > > Dear Raju,
        > >
        > > I have recently come across to this website Zero Budget Natural Farming.
        > Do
        > > you follow any of its practices? Did you see any farm in India practising
        > > Zero Budget Farming? They seem very interesting.
        > >
        > > Annemarie
        > >
        > > 2009/12/4 Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
        > 40gmail.com>>
        >
        > >
        > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
        > > > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
        > 40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
        > > 40gmail.com>>
        > > > Date: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:19 AM
        > > > Subject: Re: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
        > > > To: stephen coleman <stephencoleman95361@...<stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
        > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
        > > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
        > > > >
        > > >
        > > > Dear friend,
        > > > I am growing wheat in winter, mung in summer and rice in rainy season
        > in
        > > my
        > > > fruit garden. I scatter wheat seeds with mathy(local legume) in the
        > mulch
        > > > of
        > > > rice straw.
        > > > I scatter mung in wheat straw cover and scatter rice seeds in wheat
        > with
        > > > pallets. I am taking all in one no monoculture.
        > > > i am doing it since last 25 years. My 80% land is in cover of subabaul
        > > > trees
        > > > for fodder and fire wood. This photo shows that anybody can start N.F.
        > > > without use of any fertilizer.Problem of insects and weeds is also
        > > related
        > > > with the use of compost and chemical fertilizers.If you will stop this
        > > the
        > > > problem will go wlthin no time.
        > > >
        > > >
        > >
        > http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/vdnWwXt16gcrXgUB_oYzIA?feat=directlink
        > > > Raju
        > > > Hindi
        > > > अधिकतर लोग ये समझते है की बिना जुताई और बिना खाद से खेती करने के पहले
        > कुछ
        > > > समय खाद देनी पड़ेगी किन्तु ये गलत है पहले साल से से इस खेती में अछे
        > > परिणाम
        > >
        > > > आते हैं. ये मित्र अमेरिका में पीछे साल से बिना जुताई की खेती कर रहे हैं
        > > इन
        > > > का कहना है की इन्होने पहले खाद डाल कर शुरू किया अभी भी वे ही कर रहे है.
        > > > इन्हें सनल आदि की समस्या आ रही है हमारा कहना है की ये खाद के कारण है.
        > > > राजू
        > > > (भारत)
        > > >
        > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:45 PM, stephen coleman <
        > > > stephencoleman95361@... <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com><stephencoleman95361%
        > 40yahoo.com><stephencoleman95361%
        >
        > > 40yahoo.com>> wrote:
        > > >
        > > > > Hi Raju,
        > > > >
        > > > > I have been growing a garden for 4 years now without tillage and my
        > > > yields
        > > > > are very good. The biggest problem that I encounter are snails and
        > > slugs.
        > > > > For a while I had small Chinese chickens which did a very good job
        > but
        > > > they
        > > > > tended to like vegetables too. My wife didn't like the chickens so I
        > > gave
        > > > > them away.
        > > > >
        > > > > The soil that I started with was poor and worn out from constant
        > > > cropping.
        > > > > I used chemicals to get it started and within about 2 years much of
        > the
        > > > > fertility had been restored and I switched over to organic
        > composting.
        > > > >
        > > > > Yet something was not congruent with what I learned in agricultural
        > > > > college, why do the forests grow luxuriantly without man's help? So 4
        > > > years
        > > > > ago I stopped tilling and composting.
        > > > >
        > > > > I still weed because the weeds are aggressive and crowd out the
        > > > > vegetables. However the weed infestation has been greatly reduced and
        > > so
        > > > has
        > > > > the garden work.
        > > > >
        > > > > What kind of grain to you grow? I grow small amounts of wheat,
        > barley,
        > > > oats
        > > > > and triticale.
        > > > > The triticale is yielding over 7 metric tons/hectare, without tillage
        > > or
        > > > > fertilizers.
        > > > >
        > > > > Stephen Coleman
        > > > > California USA
        > > > > http://newholisticmedicine.com
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > --- On *Wed, 12/2/09, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...<rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
        > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
        > > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>*
        > > > wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
        > 40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
        >
        > > 40gmail.com>>
        > >
        > > > > Subject: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
        > > > > To: "stephencoleman95361" <stephencoleman95361@...<stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
        > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
        > > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
        > >
        > > > >
        > > > > Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 9:36 PM
        > > > >
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        > > >
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        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > >
        > > --
        > > Anne
        > >
        > >
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        > >
        > >
        > >
        >
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      • Frank McAvinchey
        Dear Raju, I am amazed at how robust your wheat looks! I have a question, did you use Fukuoka s seed ball technique, or simply broadcasting by hand? How
        Message 3 of 10 , Dec 4, 2009
          Dear Raju,

          I am amazed at how robust your wheat looks! I have a question, did you use
          Fukuoka's seed ball technique, or simply broadcasting by hand? How exactly
          did you plant the wheat/mathy? You have a beautiful crop! Congratulations
          from Ohio! Whatever you did, I am going to imitate, although I doubt I can
          raise Mathy. I'll have to substitute a local legume for the Mathy.

          Frank

          On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...> wrote:

          >
          >
          > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
          > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>
          > Date: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:19 AM
          > Subject: Re: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
          > To: stephen coleman <stephencoleman95361@...<stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
          > >
          >
          > Dear friend,
          > I am growing wheat in winter, mung in summer and rice in rainy season in my
          > fruit garden. I scatter wheat seeds with mathy(local legume) in the mulch
          > of
          > rice straw.
          > I scatter mung in wheat straw cover and scatter rice seeds in wheat with
          > pallets. I am taking all in one no monoculture.
          > i am doing it since last 25 years. My 80% land is in cover of subabaul
          > trees
          > for fodder and fire wood. This photo shows that anybody can start N.F.
          > without use of any fertilizer.Problem of insects and weeds is also related
          > with the use of compost and chemical fertilizers.If you will stop this the
          > problem will go wlthin no time.
          >
          > http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/vdnWwXt16gcrXgUB_oYzIA?feat=directlink
          > Raju
          > Hindi
          > अधिकतर लोग ये समझते है की बिना जुताई और बिना खाद से खेती करने के पहले कुछ
          > समय खाद देनी पड़ेगी किन्तु ये गलत है पहले साल से से इस खेती में अछे परिणाम
          > आते हैं. ये मित्र अमेरिका में पीछे साल से बिना जुताई की खेती कर रहे हैं इन
          > का कहना है की इन्होने पहले खाद डाल कर शुरू किया अभी भी वे ही कर रहे है.
          > इन्हें सनल आदि की समस्या आ रही है हमारा कहना है की ये खाद के कारण है.
          > राजू
          > (भारत)
          >
          > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:45 PM, stephen coleman <
          > stephencoleman95361@... <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
          >
          > > Hi Raju,
          > >
          > > I have been growing a garden for 4 years now without tillage and my
          > yields
          > > are very good. The biggest problem that I encounter are snails and slugs.
          > > For a while I had small Chinese chickens which did a very good job but
          > they
          > > tended to like vegetables too. My wife didn't like the chickens so I gave
          > > them away.
          > >
          > > The soil that I started with was poor and worn out from constant
          > cropping.
          > > I used chemicals to get it started and within about 2 years much of the
          > > fertility had been restored and I switched over to organic composting.
          > >
          > > Yet something was not congruent with what I learned in agricultural
          > > college, why do the forests grow luxuriantly without man's help? So 4
          > years
          > > ago I stopped tilling and composting.
          > >
          > > I still weed because the weeds are aggressive and crowd out the
          > > vegetables. However the weed infestation has been greatly reduced and so
          > has
          > > the garden work.
          > >
          > > What kind of grain to you grow? I grow small amounts of wheat, barley,
          > oats
          > > and triticale.
          > > The triticale is yielding over 7 metric tons/hectare, without tillage or
          > > fertilizers.
          > >
          > > Stephen Coleman
          > > California USA
          > > http://newholisticmedicine.com
          > >
          > >
          > > --- On *Wed, 12/2/09, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...<rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>*
          > wrote:
          > >
          > >
          > > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>
          > > Subject: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
          > > To: "stephencoleman95361" <stephencoleman95361@...<stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
          > >
          > > Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 9:36 PM
          > >
          > > Block reason: This message is above your Auto Block threshold<
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        • Raju Titus
          Dear friend, Thank you very much for appreciation. We are direct broadcasting by hand wheat+ mathy in the mulch of rice straw. I found one legume is must with
          Message 4 of 10 , Dec 4, 2009
            Dear friend,
            Thank you very much for appreciation. We are direct broadcasting by hand
            wheat+ mathy in the mulch of rice straw. I found one legume is must with
            wheat. Fukuoka was using white clover.
            Thanks
            Raju India
            (Hindi)
            बधाई के लिए धन्यवाद हम गहूं के बीजों को सीधे मेथी के साथ मिला कर हाथों से
            छिड़कते हैं और उसे पुआल से ढँक देते हैं. और सिंचाई करते रहते हैं.

            On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Frank McAvinchey <fmcavin@...> wrote:

            >
            >
            > Dear Raju,
            >
            > I am amazed at how robust your wheat looks! I have a question, did you use
            > Fukuoka's seed ball technique, or simply broadcasting by hand? How exactly
            > did you plant the wheat/mathy? You have a beautiful crop! Congratulations
            > from Ohio! Whatever you did, I am going to imitate, although I doubt I can
            > raise Mathy. I'll have to substitute a local legume for the Mathy.
            >
            > Frank
            >
            >
            > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...<rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>
            > wrote:
            >
            > >
            > >
            > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
            > > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
            > 40gmail.com>>
            > > Date: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:19 AM
            > > Subject: Re: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
            > > To: stephen coleman <stephencoleman95361@...<stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
            > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
            > > >
            > >
            > > Dear friend,
            > > I am growing wheat in winter, mung in summer and rice in rainy season in
            > my
            > > fruit garden. I scatter wheat seeds with mathy(local legume) in the mulch
            > > of
            > > rice straw.
            > > I scatter mung in wheat straw cover and scatter rice seeds in wheat with
            > > pallets. I am taking all in one no monoculture.
            > > i am doing it since last 25 years. My 80% land is in cover of subabaul
            > > trees
            > > for fodder and fire wood. This photo shows that anybody can start N.F.
            > > without use of any fertilizer.Problem of insects and weeds is also
            > related
            > > with the use of compost and chemical fertilizers.If you will stop this
            > the
            > > problem will go wlthin no time.
            > >
            > >
            > http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/vdnWwXt16gcrXgUB_oYzIA?feat=directlink
            > > Raju
            > > Hindi
            > > अधिकतर लोग ये समझते है की बिना जुताई और बिना खाद से खेती करने के पहले कुछ
            > > समय खाद देनी पड़ेगी किन्तु ये गलत है पहले साल से से इस खेती में अछे
            > परिणाम
            >
            > > आते हैं. ये मित्र अमेरिका में पीछे साल से बिना जुताई की खेती कर रहे हैं
            > इन
            > > का कहना है की इन्होने पहले खाद डाल कर शुरू किया अभी भी वे ही कर रहे है.
            > > इन्हें सनल आदि की समस्या आ रही है हमारा कहना है की ये खाद के कारण है.
            > > राजू
            > > (भारत)
            > >
            > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:45 PM, stephen coleman <
            > > stephencoleman95361@... <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com><stephencoleman95361%
            > 40yahoo.com>> wrote:
            > >
            > > > Hi Raju,
            > > >
            > > > I have been growing a garden for 4 years now without tillage and my
            > > yields
            > > > are very good. The biggest problem that I encounter are snails and
            > slugs.
            > > > For a while I had small Chinese chickens which did a very good job but
            > > they
            > > > tended to like vegetables too. My wife didn't like the chickens so I
            > gave
            > > > them away.
            > > >
            > > > The soil that I started with was poor and worn out from constant
            > > cropping.
            > > > I used chemicals to get it started and within about 2 years much of the
            > > > fertility had been restored and I switched over to organic composting.
            > > >
            > > > Yet something was not congruent with what I learned in agricultural
            > > > college, why do the forests grow luxuriantly without man's help? So 4
            > > years
            > > > ago I stopped tilling and composting.
            > > >
            > > > I still weed because the weeds are aggressive and crowd out the
            > > > vegetables. However the weed infestation has been greatly reduced and
            > so
            > > has
            > > > the garden work.
            > > >
            > > > What kind of grain to you grow? I grow small amounts of wheat, barley,
            > > oats
            > > > and triticale.
            > > > The triticale is yielding over 7 metric tons/hectare, without tillage
            > or
            > > > fertilizers.
            > > >
            > > > Stephen Coleman
            > > > California USA
            > > > http://newholisticmedicine.com
            > > >
            > > >
            > > > --- On *Wed, 12/2/09, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...<rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
            > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>*
            > > wrote:
            > > >
            > > >
            > > > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
            > 40gmail.com>>
            >
            > > > Subject: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
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          • Frank McAvinchey
            So no seed/clay balls, right? ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            Message 5 of 10 , Dec 4, 2009
              So no seed/clay balls, right?

              On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...> wrote:

              >
              >
              > Dear friend,
              > Thank you very much for appreciation. We are direct broadcasting by hand
              > wheat+ mathy in the mulch of rice straw. I found one legume is must with
              > wheat. Fukuoka was using white clover.
              > Thanks
              > Raju India
              > (Hindi)
              > बधाई के लिए धन्यवाद हम गहूं के बीजों को सीधे मेथी के साथ मिला कर हाथों से
              > छिड़कते हैं और उसे पुआल से ढँक देते हैं. और सिंचाई करते रहते हैं.
              >
              >
              > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Frank McAvinchey <fmcavin@...<fmcavin%40gmail.com>>
              > wrote:
              >
              > >
              > >
              > > Dear Raju,
              > >
              > > I am amazed at how robust your wheat looks! I have a question, did you
              > use
              > > Fukuoka's seed ball technique, or simply broadcasting by hand? How
              > exactly
              > > did you plant the wheat/mathy? You have a beautiful crop! Congratulations
              > > from Ohio! Whatever you did, I am going to imitate, although I doubt I
              > can
              > > raise Mathy. I'll have to substitute a local legume for the Mathy.
              > >
              > > Frank
              >
              > >
              > >
              > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...<rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
              > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>
              > > wrote:
              > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
              > > > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
              > 40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
              > > 40gmail.com>>
              > > > Date: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:19 AM
              > > > Subject: Re: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
              > > > To: stephen coleman <stephencoleman95361@...<stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
              > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
              > > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
              > > > >
              > > >
              > > > Dear friend,
              > > > I am growing wheat in winter, mung in summer and rice in rainy season
              > in
              > > my
              > > > fruit garden. I scatter wheat seeds with mathy(local legume) in the
              > mulch
              > > > of
              > > > rice straw.
              > > > I scatter mung in wheat straw cover and scatter rice seeds in wheat
              > with
              > > > pallets. I am taking all in one no monoculture.
              > > > i am doing it since last 25 years. My 80% land is in cover of subabaul
              > > > trees
              > > > for fodder and fire wood. This photo shows that anybody can start N.F.
              > > > without use of any fertilizer.Problem of insects and weeds is also
              > > related
              > > > with the use of compost and chemical fertilizers.If you will stop this
              > > the
              > > > problem will go wlthin no time.
              > > >
              > > >
              > >
              > http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/vdnWwXt16gcrXgUB_oYzIA?feat=directlink
              > > > Raju
              > > > Hindi
              > > > अधिकतर लोग ये समझते है की बिना जुताई और बिना खाद से खेती करने के पहले
              > कुछ
              > > > समय खाद देनी पड़ेगी किन्तु ये गलत है पहले साल से से इस खेती में अछे
              >
              > > परिणाम
              > >
              > > > आते हैं. ये मित्र अमेरिका में पीछे साल से बिना जुताई की खेती कर रहे हैं
              > > इन
              > > > का कहना है की इन्होने पहले खाद डाल कर शुरू किया अभी भी वे ही कर रहे है.
              > > > इन्हें सनल आदि की समस्या आ रही है हमारा कहना है की ये खाद के कारण है.
              > > > राजू
              > > > (भारत)
              > > >
              > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:45 PM, stephen coleman <
              > > > stephencoleman95361@... <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com><stephencoleman95361%
              > 40yahoo.com><stephencoleman95361%
              >
              > > 40yahoo.com>> wrote:
              > > >
              > > > > Hi Raju,
              > > > >
              > > > > I have been growing a garden for 4 years now without tillage and my
              > > > yields
              > > > > are very good. The biggest problem that I encounter are snails and
              > > slugs.
              > > > > For a while I had small Chinese chickens which did a very good job
              > but
              > > > they
              > > > > tended to like vegetables too. My wife didn't like the chickens so I
              > > gave
              > > > > them away.
              > > > >
              > > > > The soil that I started with was poor and worn out from constant
              > > > cropping.
              > > > > I used chemicals to get it started and within about 2 years much of
              > the
              > > > > fertility had been restored and I switched over to organic
              > composting.
              > > > >
              > > > > Yet something was not congruent with what I learned in agricultural
              > > > > college, why do the forests grow luxuriantly without man's help? So 4
              > > > years
              > > > > ago I stopped tilling and composting.
              > > > >
              > > > > I still weed because the weeds are aggressive and crowd out the
              > > > > vegetables. However the weed infestation has been greatly reduced and
              > > so
              > > > has
              > > > > the garden work.
              > > > >
              > > > > What kind of grain to you grow? I grow small amounts of wheat,
              > barley,
              > > > oats
              > > > > and triticale.
              > > > > The triticale is yielding over 7 metric tons/hectare, without tillage
              > > or
              > > > > fertilizers.
              > > > >
              > > > > Stephen Coleman
              > > > > California USA
              > > > > http://newholisticmedicine.com
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > > --- On *Wed, 12/2/09, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...<rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
              > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
              > > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>*
              > > > wrote:
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
              > 40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
              > > 40gmail.com>>
              >
              > >
              > > > > Subject: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
              > > > > To: "stephencoleman95361" <stephencoleman95361@...<stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
              > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
              > > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
              >
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            • Raju Titus
              We are making seed balls for rice in winter and broadcast in the growing crop of wheat. हम रबी में धान के बीजों को
              Message 6 of 10 , Dec 4, 2009
                We are making seed balls for rice in winter and broadcast in the growing
                crop of wheat.
                हम रबी में धान के बीजों को मिटटी की गोली में बंद कर गहूं में ही डाल देते
                हैं.
                raju

                On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Frank McAvinchey <fmcavin@...> wrote:

                >
                >
                > So no seed/clay balls, right?
                >
                >
                > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...<rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>
                > wrote:
                >
                > >
                > >
                > > Dear friend,
                > > Thank you very much for appreciation. We are direct broadcasting by hand
                > > wheat+ mathy in the mulch of rice straw. I found one legume is must with
                > > wheat. Fukuoka was using white clover.
                > > Thanks
                > > Raju India
                > > (Hindi)
                > > बधाई के लिए धन्यवाद हम गहूं के बीजों को सीधे मेथी के साथ मिला कर हाथों से
                > > छिड़कते हैं और उसे पुआल से ढँक देते हैं. और सिंचाई करते रहते हैं.
                > >
                > >
                > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Frank McAvinchey <fmcavin@...<fmcavin%40gmail.com>
                > <fmcavin%40gmail.com>>
                >
                > > wrote:
                > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > Dear Raju,
                > > >
                > > > I am amazed at how robust your wheat looks! I have a question, did you
                > > use
                > > > Fukuoka's seed ball technique, or simply broadcasting by hand? How
                > > exactly
                > > > did you plant the wheat/mathy? You have a beautiful crop!
                > Congratulations
                > > > from Ohio! Whatever you did, I am going to imitate, although I doubt I
                > > can
                > > > raise Mathy. I'll have to substitute a local legume for the Mathy.
                > > >
                > > > Frank
                > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...<rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
                > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
                > > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>
                > > > wrote:
                >
                > > >
                > > > >
                > > > >
                > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
                > > > > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
                > 40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
                > > 40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
                > > > 40gmail.com>>
                > > > > Date: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:19 AM
                > > > > Subject: Re: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
                > > > > To: stephen coleman <stephencoleman95361@...<stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
                > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
                > > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
                > > > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
                > > > > >
                > > > >
                > > > > Dear friend,
                > > > > I am growing wheat in winter, mung in summer and rice in rainy season
                > > in
                > > > my
                > > > > fruit garden. I scatter wheat seeds with mathy(local legume) in the
                > > mulch
                > > > > of
                > > > > rice straw.
                > > > > I scatter mung in wheat straw cover and scatter rice seeds in wheat
                > > with
                > > > > pallets. I am taking all in one no monoculture.
                > > > > i am doing it since last 25 years. My 80% land is in cover of
                > subabaul
                > > > > trees
                > > > > for fodder and fire wood. This photo shows that anybody can start
                > N.F.
                > > > > without use of any fertilizer.Problem of insects and weeds is also
                > > > related
                > > > > with the use of compost and chemical fertilizers.If you will stop
                > this
                > > > the
                > > > > problem will go wlthin no time.
                > > > >
                > > > >
                > > >
                > >
                > http://picasaweb.google.co.in/lh/photo/vdnWwXt16gcrXgUB_oYzIA?feat=directlink
                > > > > Raju
                > > > > Hindi
                > > > > अधिकतर लोग ये समझते है की बिना जुताई और बिना खाद से खेती करने के पहले
                > > कुछ
                > > > > समय खाद देनी पड़ेगी किन्तु ये गलत है पहले साल से से इस खेती में अछे
                > >
                > > > परिणाम
                > > >
                > > > > आते हैं. ये मित्र अमेरिका में पीछे साल से बिना जुताई की खेती कर रहे
                > हैं
                > > > इन
                > > > > का कहना है की इन्होने पहले खाद डाल कर शुरू किया अभी भी वे ही कर रहे
                > है.
                > > > > इन्हें सनल आदि की समस्या आ रही है हमारा कहना है की ये खाद के कारण है.
                > > > > राजू
                > > > > (भारत)
                > > > >
                > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:45 PM, stephen coleman <
                > > > > stephencoleman95361@... <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com><stephencoleman95361%
                > 40yahoo.com><stephencoleman95361%
                > > 40yahoo.com><stephencoleman95361%
                >
                > >
                > > > 40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                > > > >
                > > > > > Hi Raju,
                > > > > >
                > > > > > I have been growing a garden for 4 years now without tillage and my
                > > > > yields
                > > > > > are very good. The biggest problem that I encounter are snails and
                > > > slugs.
                > > > > > For a while I had small Chinese chickens which did a very good job
                > > but
                > > > > they
                > > > > > tended to like vegetables too. My wife didn't like the chickens so
                > I
                > > > gave
                > > > > > them away.
                > > > > >
                > > > > > The soil that I started with was poor and worn out from constant
                > > > > cropping.
                > > > > > I used chemicals to get it started and within about 2 years much of
                > > the
                > > > > > fertility had been restored and I switched over to organic
                > > composting.
                > > > > >
                > > > > > Yet something was not congruent with what I learned in agricultural
                > > > > > college, why do the forests grow luxuriantly without man's help? So
                > 4
                > > > > years
                > > > > > ago I stopped tilling and composting.
                > > > > >
                > > > > > I still weed because the weeds are aggressive and crowd out the
                > > > > > vegetables. However the weed infestation has been greatly reduced
                > and
                > > > so
                > > > > has
                > > > > > the garden work.
                > > > > >
                > > > > > What kind of grain to you grow? I grow small amounts of wheat,
                > > barley,
                > > > > oats
                > > > > > and triticale.
                > > > > > The triticale is yielding over 7 metric tons/hectare, without
                > tillage
                > > > or
                > > > > > fertilizers.
                > > > > >
                > > > > > Stephen Coleman
                > > > > > California USA
                > > > > > http://newholisticmedicine.com
                > > > > >
                > > > > >
                > > > > > --- On *Wed, 12/2/09, Raju Titus <rajuktitus@...<rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
                > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
                > > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>
                > > > <rajuktitus%40gmail.com>>*
                > > > > wrote:
                > > > > >
                > > > > >
                > > > > > From: Raju Titus <rajuktitus@... <rajuktitus%40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
                > 40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
                > > 40gmail.com><rajuktitus%
                >
                > > > 40gmail.com>>
                > >
                > > >
                > > > > > Subject: 08 - Re: prepared compost and chemical fertilizers
                > > > > > To: "stephencoleman95361" <stephencoleman95361@...<stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
                > <stephencoleman95361%40yahoo.com>
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              • marss.farm
                Hello, my name is Beny.  I am a small natural farmer in France.  In case you are willing to start a natural farm in a temperate-cold climate, I would be very
                Message 7 of 10 , Dec 5, 2009
                  Hello,
                  my name is Beny.  I am a small natural farmer in France.  In case you are willing to start a natural farm in a temperate-cold climate, I would be very happy to tell you how to proceed as far as method & practice are concerned.  Please, read my blog:
                  http://marssfarm.centerblog.net
                  I would be pleased to co-operate with your project.  Fukuoka’s is the simplest method of all.  The main job is to attune our mind to it.
                  I hope you will answer my message.
                  Beny


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