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  • andrewhallcutler
    ... Hahahhahahaha! Yes, that was my experience of it, euphoric, bouncy, wild ride, up and down, really really attention deficit and kinda like I was on drugs.
    Message 1 of 754 , Dec 10, 2011
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      --- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "brianmcblain" <brianmcblain@...> wrote:
      > Hey man! This ALA is good stuff, man! A little euphoria, I hope it continues!


      Yes, that was my experience of it, euphoric, bouncy, wild ride, up and down, really really attention deficit and kinda like I was on drugs.

      For me it went with being sulfur food sensitive.

      It was also very draining but the whole ALA chelation experience wasn't unpleasant for me in a direct sense. People respond quite individually.



    • brianmcblain
      I had planned to work up my temperature data to se if I could gain any insight to help others here. Then with Martin s post today, I realized I have 4 years of
      Message 754 of 754 , Sep 4
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        I had planned to work up my temperature data to se if I could gain any insight to help others here. Then with Martin's post today, I realized I have 4 years of BBT data and 18 months of daily mean temperatures. Time to share them. Sorry this is on the long side. 

        I decided not to clutter up Martin's thread. So I posted here in my update thread.

        The first chart is of Basal Body Temperatures. These are obtained just before rising. I have seem normal defined as > 97.0 F (36.1 C) and some as > 97.5 F (36.3 C). Maybe it varies person to person, but clearly BBT < 97 indicates something is wrong and mine was below 94 some mornings of my first week chelating and that was with aa fair amount of ACE support. I plotted the means of the 3 days on round and the day after then the rest of the week off and the morning I start the new round. So the day after the round gets into two means. That is how I chose to do it. I looked for an on round/off round effect. There was none. 

        BTW: The C in the X axis label stands for chelation and the round number is self explanatory. The "+" indicates that tick is for an off-round and the letters indicate a long round and which four day period in that long round. They just show the passage of time in groups of four days.

        Four years of BBT temps:



        The previous March relative to the beginning of this data, after a single small amalgam was removed unsafely, I recorded a 93.2 F and one night before bed came down with the chills so bad my teeth were clattering like in the cartoons. Forgot to take  my temperature. It was not foremost in my foggy brain, as you might imagine. My wife was in Cleveland so she was spared my icy feet. An example of: it can be worse!

        You can see the variability. There are issues with using this as a technique to monitor adrenal status. It works well when you are well below the 97.0 F target. Then it is clear you need more support and you keep ramping it up. By round 15 I was on ACE, dessicated thyroid, and HC. I added pregnenolone later and cut back on the ACE some. 

        I suddenly got hot at night about round 70 and it really messed up my sleep, so I phased the HC out fast with that spike above 97.5 F.   After that I was in this variable plateau when I was on no adrenal support because of that hot spike. I phased everything back in but was not satisfied with the info that the BBT was giving me at that point. Too much noise and nothing seemed to get a response.

        If your feet get cold or too warm, there is a reflex that your under tongue temperatures will vary with your feet. Under arm temps are lower but if you tend to shrug off the bedclothes, have a CPAP (device to cure sleep apnea) that blows air over your face and shoulder, or a spouse who steals the bedding, well you are going to get erroneous low readings. If your spouse has a menopausal hot flash you can wake in a pool of sweat.  Keeping the flannel sheets on a week or two too long, or getting them on a week or two too late, open windows or closed and air conditioning, after room temperatures. That messes up the under tongue reading. My CPAP sits on the floor so gets the coldest air in the room. That blows across my face and makes my head and under tongue cold. So I have learned to shut the machine off for at least 30 minutes to get a more accurate reading. Still, there are too many variables that aid sleep, a good marital relationship, but wreak havoc on the BBT data. I could have dropped it 18 months ago but I was curious whether it would level at 97-97.5 F or exceed 97.5 and how that might relate to daily mean temperatures especially as they normalized. 

        So I bit the bullet and began to monitor both my temperature and my blood pressure and pulse three times a day (the HC can affect the heart). Nominally at 3, 6, and 9 hours after waking, but that is not too critical. The first temperature reading should not be too late as it is the lowest of the day and that can push the mean out of the normal range and I have some of that effect in the data. The temperature drops towards bedtime too but I seem to get similar readings from late afternoon until about 9 PM. That makes things a bit easier to fit around life. 

        18 months of Monthly means:

        Note many months have three readings every day, the worst month had 2o days with three readings, 3 missing days, a day with one reading and seven with two. Life gets in the way sometimes.

        The Gold part of the bars are the percentage in the "normal range" 98.4-98.6" The blue bars are the percentage colder than that, and the red, warmer. The means are across the top and the range (high-low) is across the bottom. Somehow it lost the mean of 98.6 for this month (only 3 days in that mean though because I ran a temperature on the first day of the month, so excluded it). My X axis label and legend got messed up too, but we can work with it. 

        I have gradually reduced the days I am colder than average, and ignoring this month of 3 days as a sampling error, have averaged about the same number of days I am too warm and increased the number I am in the "normal range".  Maybe I run a bit hotter that the average? I know there is some variability in that. 

        I appear to have had a setback a year ago. That took me another eight months to get back where I was a year ago this past July. I have not looked for a cause for that. 

        Up until this May my temps suggested more thyroid support might be good, but more dessicated thyroid did not increase monthly mean temps and I was loathe to pursue a T3 & T4 Rx with a specialist to gain a tenth of a degree in the mean and lose some of the cold days. In may I had sleep issues agin and phased out all support though I have tested some ACE since then.

        All of my Max -Min numbers suggest I need adrenal support even this August with a mean of 98.6 F. However, when I try even one ACE capsule my temps go up and sleep can become an issue. If I can hold to 0.4 or less this month, I may have this beat. 

        I have discovered that my blood pressure comes down with an antihistamine. I suspect that the mean of 98,6 for August just past was in part due to using the antihistamine. I suspect I reduced inflammation and my temperature. Some foods appear capable of affecting it. 

        Thus, it appears that my spike in temps and poor sleeping around round 70 may be another allergy period I missed. With mercury they were so obvious. This is subtle. It appears the inflammation extends to food, too. So as I sort out what I can and can't eat with impunity and what is OK in low amounts, I suspect I will have some yo-yoing in my mean temperatures. 

        My conclusions for me is that I have other things going on that interfere with mean daily temps being a good way to monitor my adrenals. I suspect I could use a little adrenal support but am unwilling to give up sleep with a too high temperature at 3 AM.

        If I arbitrarily decide my normal range is from 98.3 to 98.7, the number of days that are beyond that range drop dramatically over these 18 months. So progress is shown. Maybe I am close enough to normal that it is not a real concern for me any more as long as I keep an eye on it.


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