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  • Gold Standard Press
    If we start out at the Town or County level, it will be pretty easy to soon find out whether our favorite candidates turn out to be True to their Word. c. ...
    Message 1 of 2221 , Jan 13, 2003
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      If we start out at the Town or County level, it will be pretty easy to soon find out whether our favorite candidates turn out to be True to their Word.

      c.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Jake Witmer
      To: freestateproject@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 6:25 AM
      Subject: Re: [FSP] Re: after we move/ but before we realize we can't convince anybody


      Sure, most of the below argument is true. The problem that I have, is that
      the other partys' platforms are 100% vague and noncommittal. We'd have to
      run people from the Free State's Libertarian Party to make sure they were
      telling the truth. We could never trust anyone from the Republican Party,
      unless we knew his past, in detail. Ron Paul is one of a very select few
      exceptions. He was our LP Pres candidate, after all. We knew he was cool.
      We had EVIDENCE of his coolness.

      With any influx of free-staters, we'd have to be very wary of politicians
      that are simply lying when they promise to vote our way.

      We'd also have to be wary of candidates that lack intelligence or guts,
      because both will be necessary for the job. What I mean when I say this,
      is: WE CAN'T AFFORD TO REPEAT LEADVILLE.

      I almost feel the need to apologize for stating something this obvious, but
      one never can be too sure...

      -Jake

      on 1/12/03 7:37 PM, Jeffrey A. Robertson at jeffr@... wrote:

      The article on our website about the Bi-Partisan League is a case in
      point. You don't have to join the party to run on the party ticket.
      The "Porcupine endorsement" would be the key to who gets the vote,
      regardless of party. Each voting district selects the party that would
      most likely win an election in that district, and the "Porcupine" runs
      on that ticket.

      Jeff R.

      motie_d wrote:

      > --- In freestateproject@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald G Wittig"
      > <groverw@c...> wrote:
      > > Motie,
      > > C.L. Butch Otter Rep 1st Dist Idaho. Talked with him Wed. He and
      > Ron are
      > > busy comparing notes. Butch and Ron along with an Independent
      > Congressman
      > > were the only ones to vote against the Patriot Act. When I ran
      > against him
      > > in 2000, many media types asked me why a Libertarian would run
      > against Butch
      > > as he is considered libertarian by them. Butch hasn't bought the
      > whole ball
      > > of wax yet. He has serious reservations about our stand on sex,
      > drugs, and
      > > gambling to varing degrees.
      >
      > Are they personal reservations, or a concern as to his electabilty if
      > he were to make it a public position?
      >
      > > Hates the alphbet soup. Has been fined several
      > > times by EPA for making changes on his property. Butch is not your
      > tipical
      > > Republican, then again neither is Ron.
      > > By the way, I worked on behalf of Ron in 1988 when he ran as the
      > Libertarian
      > > Presidential candidate.
      > > Ron
      >
      > That follows along witht he point I was trying to make. We don't
      > necessarily have to start a new Party from scratch, if we can get the
      > existing Parties and their infrastructure to come our way.
      > I am against Partisan Politics. I support the ideas based on their
      > Merits, not by which Party to proponent is from. If a Democrat were
      > to propose a Bill to repeal all UnConstitutional Laws ever enacted, I
      > would support him all the way.
      >
      > Motie
      >
      >
      >
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    • Gold Standard Press
      If we start out at the Town or County level, it will be pretty easy to soon find out whether our favorite candidates turn out to be True to their Word. c. ...
      Message 2221 of 2221 , Jan 13, 2003
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        If we start out at the Town or County level, it will be pretty easy to soon find out whether our favorite candidates turn out to be True to their Word.

        c.

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Jake Witmer
        To: freestateproject@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 6:25 AM
        Subject: Re: [FSP] Re: after we move/ but before we realize we can't convince anybody


        Sure, most of the below argument is true. The problem that I have, is that
        the other partys' platforms are 100% vague and noncommittal. We'd have to
        run people from the Free State's Libertarian Party to make sure they were
        telling the truth. We could never trust anyone from the Republican Party,
        unless we knew his past, in detail. Ron Paul is one of a very select few
        exceptions. He was our LP Pres candidate, after all. We knew he was cool.
        We had EVIDENCE of his coolness.

        With any influx of free-staters, we'd have to be very wary of politicians
        that are simply lying when they promise to vote our way.

        We'd also have to be wary of candidates that lack intelligence or guts,
        because both will be necessary for the job. What I mean when I say this,
        is: WE CAN'T AFFORD TO REPEAT LEADVILLE.

        I almost feel the need to apologize for stating something this obvious, but
        one never can be too sure...

        -Jake

        on 1/12/03 7:37 PM, Jeffrey A. Robertson at jeffr@... wrote:

        The article on our website about the Bi-Partisan League is a case in
        point. You don't have to join the party to run on the party ticket.
        The "Porcupine endorsement" would be the key to who gets the vote,
        regardless of party. Each voting district selects the party that would
        most likely win an election in that district, and the "Porcupine" runs
        on that ticket.

        Jeff R.

        motie_d wrote:

        > --- In freestateproject@yahoogroups.com, "Ronald G Wittig"
        > <groverw@c...> wrote:
        > > Motie,
        > > C.L. Butch Otter Rep 1st Dist Idaho. Talked with him Wed. He and
        > Ron are
        > > busy comparing notes. Butch and Ron along with an Independent
        > Congressman
        > > were the only ones to vote against the Patriot Act. When I ran
        > against him
        > > in 2000, many media types asked me why a Libertarian would run
        > against Butch
        > > as he is considered libertarian by them. Butch hasn't bought the
        > whole ball
        > > of wax yet. He has serious reservations about our stand on sex,
        > drugs, and
        > > gambling to varing degrees.
        >
        > Are they personal reservations, or a concern as to his electabilty if
        > he were to make it a public position?
        >
        > > Hates the alphbet soup. Has been fined several
        > > times by EPA for making changes on his property. Butch is not your
        > tipical
        > > Republican, then again neither is Ron.
        > > By the way, I worked on behalf of Ron in 1988 when he ran as the
        > Libertarian
        > > Presidential candidate.
        > > Ron
        >
        > That follows along witht he point I was trying to make. We don't
        > necessarily have to start a new Party from scratch, if we can get the
        > existing Parties and their infrastructure to come our way.
        > I am against Partisan Politics. I support the ideas based on their
        > Merits, not by which Party to proponent is from. If a Democrat were
        > to propose a Bill to repeal all UnConstitutional Laws ever enacted, I
        > would support him all the way.
        >
        > Motie
        >
        >
        >
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