Conversations With My Wife (fwd)
- Mike gave me permission to forward this. This may be of interest to those
of you out there trying to persuade spouses. ;)
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Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 20:21:14 -0500
From: Mike Schwing <mschwing@...>
Subject: Conversations With My Wife
Conversations With My Spouse,
This is about how my wife and I came to see eye to eye on the Free State
Project. It might help someone somewhere in a similar situation.
Fell in love with a woman who described herself as a liberal. I didnt
really think she understood what a liberal was, because many of her ideas
sounded Republican to me, even though most Republicans are more liberal than
Id prefer. I let it slide and chose to address the situation through
descriptions of my own thoughts and ideas rather than words. I was, after
all, crazy about her.
Before we were married she had come to accept the fact that she was indeed
not a liberal. Her university friends (she is a teacher) and her Inside the
Beltway (DC) crowd had warped her peception so that she didnt at all
understand someone coming from the dreaded right, even though it was her
direction after all. Still, there was reluctance to accept the change. She
actually seemed to feel guilty about having right leaning ideas.
No problem. A slight shift is better than no shift at all, and this was
going to be a lifelong opportunity, so a long term outlook was adopted. Baby
steps and all.
After a year or so of marriage my lovely wife had come within a few baby
steps of actually picking up a firearm, she voted for no Democrats in the
last election cycle, and bemoaned the the Clintons and their ilk. She
decided to withdraw from her Teachers Union. All this with no prodding,
just carefully chosen words, exposure to talk radio, and emails of articles
proving my points.
But now this Free State thing, that was something else entirely. Moving to
another place with a bunch of right wing nuts hell bent on freedom? Yikes!
I had to deal with this carefully, and once again taking the long term
approach, exposed her gradually. A chance guest hosting of Rushs show by
Walter Williams led the charge. She was captivated by him and his ideas, as
am I every time I hear him. I told her that I have heard him talk about
choosing a state and seceeding from The Union. I said he usually talks about
doing it with Texas. She found the idea of secession a bit extreme. So I
went with it and agreed. Over the course of the long drive I talked a bit
about how it might not be so extreme to get a bunch of people to move to a
state and get themselves elected to offices where they could minimize the
extent of oppressive government intervention. I left it there for the
She then received an email introducing her to freestateproject.org , from
me of course. A few days later I asked her if she looked at it. Mmmhhmmm,
interesting, but sounds kind of crazy. I dont know if Im ready to move to
a place like that. I told you when we got married that if you turned into a
Montana militia whacko that I'm leaving.
Aaahh..those Montana guys got a bad rap. But you wouldnt want to move to a
place where youre more free to do what you want? Where you dont have to
work 1/3 of the year to pay your taxes? Where youre free to protect
yourself and your family and your property? Where you tell the feds to stay
the heck out of your state?
You scare me. It must take a lot of energy to be you. Knowing this was
not the hill to die on, I let it go.
Over the next few months we would have the same kinds of conversations. I
felt no better about it, and no worse, but since this was a long term thing,
as long as we were talking about it, it was a positive sign.
Then one night, while lying in bed reading, the subject, for some unknown or
forgotten reason, came up
Honey, you know Id eat broken glass to live free. I hope I dont have to
go to The Free State without you. It was time to let her know how serious I
was about it.
Isnt this a bit radical? What do you propose? To hijack the legislature
and tell the government to bug off? How can you do that? What about your
federal highway funds example? How will you drive on roads with potholes?
First off well win the legislature, not hijack it. And those federal
highway funds are just your dollars being sent back to you. Well put people
in the Congress who will lobby to keep them in your pocket to begin with.
Why would the feds needs to send us OUR money back to fix OUR roads? Doesnt
that sound like something we could do ourselves?
Yeah, but what if they cut you off from trade?
As I recall, the British did just that to the colonists, and a whole lot
more. They survived. But were not talking about that, were just talking
about moving to a place and working towards living a bit more freely. Were
mostly not anarchists (even though Im leaning more and more that way). We
have committed to work within the framework of The Constitution.
You think this is going to happen overnight? How is that going to work?
Honey, it might not happen in our lifetime. It might take 200 years.
Wouldnt you like to be there at the start? If we simply succeeded in making
one or two things better while were on this Earth were ahead of where we
are now. Good change can occur, and probably should occur, slowly. We simply
cannot afford to be that radical anyway. Look at it from another perspective
lets say it is Wyoming. They have about 77,000 people in that state. Lets
say ¾ of them vote. Heck, lets say 50,000 of them vote. Well, they might not
all be so happy about our ideas, and if we dont go slowly and within
reasonable limits, they can band together and vote us right out of office,
and were back to square one. We need to go slowly. In our lifetime we might
not notice anything different about our project other than that fact that
more freedom minded people are in our presence on a regular basis. We wont
know if we dont try, and things certainly arent getting any better here.
I dont know. It seems like quitting on our state to move to another.
Wait a minute Hon. Lets take Maryland and Virginia for example. We talk
about it all of the time. Would you say Maryland is a state where the people
are less free than Virginia?
Right. They have right to carry. They pay less taxes. So theyre just a bit
more free. Other than that if you drove across the line you wouldnt notice
a difference. If we moved there to avoid heavy taxes, and so Id be able to
stop carrying without worry, would you say thats quitting and a cop out?
OK, what if we moved further, say to Tennessee, because they have no income
tax. Would that be cheating and a cop out?
OK. Then what if I moved to Tennessee and then lobbied my local politicians
to do away with a few freedom detracting laws, or I even ran for a local
office. Would that be cheating or copping out?
Of course not.
Ok then. This is all Im talking about. In a few years or so well have
chosen a state, and then well begin making arrangements to move there,
within 5 years or sooner. No matter what state it is, itll already be more
free than we are here in Maryland, so well already be ahead of the game.
Unfortunately, itll also likely be colder, but Im willing to endure that
if it means freedom. The worst thing that could happen is that we dont like
it and we move again, but I doubt thatll happen
Or the black helicopters could rain fire down on us.
Hey now youre thinking like me! (and I thought she didnt listen)
Ok. You sold me. Ill go with you.
Goodnight hon. I love you. Smooch, switch off the light.
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