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  • Kevin Tuma
    My question is Why are these setbacks in Leadville being taken as a defeat? It ain t over until the fat lady sings. What are the Free Staters going to do if
    Message 1 of 1 , Jan 6, 2003
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      My question is "Why are these setbacks in Leadville being taken as a
      defeat?" It ain't over until the fat lady sings.

      What are the Free Staters going to do if they encounter political
      opposition? Go home?

      --K

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Gold Standard Press" <gsp76@...>
      To: <freestateproject@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:26 AM
      Subject: [FSP] leadville baloon.


      > you think this backlash was because of poor campaigning? I mean were
      these folks up-front about their desire to pare down their city government
      to drastic levels?
      >
      > c.
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Tim Condon
      > To: freestateproject@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 1:03 PM
      > Subject: Re: [FSP] Re: [fspcrackerbarrel] Re: FSP--a question of policy
      >
      >
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      > >I agree that this is an ideological battle: a battle of principles. I
      > >think, however, that you overlooked what Jason said about those to whom
      > >we would look bad. The people in the state we are trying to win over
      > >from the statists currently in power are the ones we have to consider.
      > >Perception is reality. If the locals perceive that they are being used
      > >as tools for our own ideology (however righteous), they will be a
      > >roadblock to our success, not an asset. That is what would look bad.
      > >The media will use any tool they have, particularly tools we give them,
      > >to make sure the locals perceive us as intruders. For us to be
      planning
      > >the next "takeover" before the locals have had a chance to accept our
      > >sincerely and committment to them would be a tool our opponents would
      > >love to have.
      >
      > Agreed. Read what happened when the tiny town of Leadville,
      > Colorado, was blessed with a majority of libertarians on the city
      council
      > (as recounted by an FSP member, one of the city council members): "We
      were
      > accused by our mayor, police chief, fire chief, newspapers, and more
      people
      > in the audience than I had thought possible that we were 'imposing a
      > national libertarian agenda' on the people of Leadville. Our effort to
      > discontinue a fulltime code enforcement position and to turn over those
      > duties to our eight remaining police officers (thereby reducing the
      force
      > by one by not filling a vacancy) was met with accusations that we were
      > going to lay off officers one by one until we had no police force. The
      > opposition extrapolated our layoff of a recently-hired administrative
      > assistant into our eventually wanting to get rid of city hall. They
      > extrapolated our efforts to get rid of business license taxes to our
      > eventually wanting to get rid of all taxes and to let just anyone set up
      a
      > business. They extrapolated our effort to get rid of the sign code and
      the
      > P&Z [planning and zoning] code to getting rid of all codes which would
      > result in anybody building anything they wanted to anywhere they wanted
      to.
      > We became enemy number one of even people who, prior to our taking
      office,
      > wanted us to repeal these things. When the fear-mongering got to them
      they
      > accused us of trying to take over and shove our libertarian agenda down
      > people's throats. Yet these very same people were, and still are, at
      risk
      > of being cited by these codes and one would have expected their support.
      We
      > were accused of 'going backwards' and undoing years and decades of hard
      > work building those codes. When I cited Jefferson in a rebutting letter
      to
      > the editor, other letter writers used that as evidence of our hypocrisy
      > because Jefferson was a 'big government' president. Sheesh!"
      >
      >
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