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  • Stephen
    The Tea Party, 9/12, and FSP are all part of an ecosystem with many niches to fill. Those first two, along with Ron Paul, appeal to simpler folk and introduce
    Message 1 of 3 , Feb 17, 2012
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      The Tea Party, 9/12, and FSP are all part of an ecosystem with many niches to fill. Those first two, along with Ron Paul, appeal to simpler folk and introduce them to libertarianism. And then they provide us with rich recruiting grounds. :)

      Speaking of which, all effort should now be on recruiting soon-to-be-disgruntled Ron Paul supporters.

      --- In freestateproject@yahoogroups.com, Tim Condon <tim@...> wrote:
      >
      > Skip to Tim: "You believe that the FSP would be the more important [than
      > the TEA Party or 9/12 movements] right now?"
      >
      > Tim responds: *Yes.* If the contemplated socialist disaster occurs, it will
      > cause social, political, and economic collapse. It will have meant that the
      > tea party and 9/12 movements failed. But they can fail and the FSP movement
      > can still succeed. We were talking about a total societal, economic,
      > cultural (and maybe civilizational) collapse caused by the re-election of
      > Obama and the inevitable forcible imposition of socialism on America. Yes,
      > the Free State Project migration movement in such circumstances is
      > extraordinarily important. In New Hampshire it will join (has already
      > joined) with the indigenous freedom forces---which are vast in the Live
      > Free or Die state---to fight and keep alive the original American cultural,
      > economic, political, and philosophical values. This is one reason that
      > Democrats and other socialists in New Hampshire are so terrified of the FSP
      > movement. We stand for everything they abhor: Free enterprise capitalism,
      > individual freedom, personal responsibility, low taxes, constitutionally
      > limited government, individual rights, restricted state power, reduced
      > bureaucracy, etc. Socialism abhors real individual freedom (as opposed to
      > individual dependency) in every way. The responsible Freestaters---of whom
      > there are far more than the kids making the headlines with their fun but
      > disruptive and sometimes juvenile behavior---*all* uphold those original
      > American values.
      >
      > Yes, the Free State Project movement is important. Extraordinarily so.
      >
      > Timothy Condon, Esq.
      > 12 Liberty Lane, Grafton, NH 03240
      > Ofc.: 307 S. Fielding Ave., Suite #2
      > Tampa, Florida 33606
      > 813-251-2626 Fax 813-200-3395
      > Email: tim@...
      >
      >
      > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Skip Murphy <Skip@...> wrote:
      >
      > >
      > >
      > > Over the TEA Party? 9/12 Project?
      > >
      > > There is no doubt that both are complementary and each has helped each
      > > other - but you believe that the FSP would be the more important right now?
      > >
      > > - Skip
      > > GraniteGrok.com
      > >
      > >
      > > On 2/16/2012 6:36 PM, Tim Condon wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > That's all true, and that's why the Free State Project is the most
      > > important movement in modern American history. As the rest of the country
      > > collapses, there will be a majority of individualistic, self-reliant people
      > > in NH to keep the torch alive...even while it's being extinguished
      > > everywhere else.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Carolyn McKinney <
      > > carolyn.mckinney@...> wrote:
      > >
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> It will be very difficult for any Republican to win. Why? Skip posted
      > >> this graphic<http://granitegrok.com/blog/2012/02/gee-i-wonder-if-this-ties-into-the-current-brouhaha-over-free-contraception-abortions-vs-first-amendment-religious-freedom>,
      > >> which says it all—"Democrats give me free shit." If Obama does win again,
      > >> despite the economy being in the crapper, more families and children in
      > >> poverty, the rapid loss of freedom, it will indicate to me that we may have
      > >> already passed the point of no return. And that fact will be on Republican
      > >> heads because for too many years Republicans were giving away free shit too
      > >> rather than rolling it back and making people personally responsible.
      > >>
      > >> On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Kevin McHugh wrote:
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> I'll vote for any Republican over Obama, but the idea
      > >> that conservatives should blindly support Romney in the primary because
      > >> he's "our best chance of beating Obama", is one of the biggest hoaxes ever
      > >> perpetrated by the GOP country-club and its allies in the "news" media.
      > >>
      > >> And the latest Rasmussen poll provides even more evidence to back this
      > >> up. It has Mitt losing to Obama by 10 points, and Santorum trailing
      > >> Obama by only 4 points, which is almost within the polls margin of
      > >> error. Not bad for a candidate with very little money and no support from
      > >> the GOP establishment or the media (unlike Romney, of course).
      > >> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/
      > >>
      > >> -Kevin
    • Chris Lawless
      Not to mention that the Tea Party is one and done.  2010 they changed stuff and then 2011/2012.. they are back to liking big government. Many of them support
      Message 2 of 3 , Feb 17, 2012
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        Not to mention that the Tea Party is one and done.  2010 they changed stuff and then 2011/2012.. they are back to liking big government.
        Many of them support Newt and Santorum.. both of whom like big government.


        FSP has been around 10 years... and will stay around.

        ****************************************

        I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!

        --- On Fri, 2/17/12, Tim Condon <tim@...> wrote:

        From: Tim Condon <tim@...>
        Subject: [FSP] Re: [RLCNH] Exposing a hoax
        To: RLCNH@yahoogroups.com, "FS FSP" <freestateproject@yahoogroups.com>
        Date: Friday, February 17, 2012, 4:24 AM

        Skip to Tim: "You believe that the FSP would be the more important [than
        the TEA Party or 9/12 movements] right now?"

        Tim responds: *Yes.* If the contemplated socialist disaster occurs, it will
        cause social, political, and economic collapse. It will have meant that the
        tea party and 9/12 movements failed. But they can fail and the FSP movement
        can still succeed. We were talking about a total societal, economic,
        cultural (and maybe civilizational) collapse caused by the re-election of
        Obama and the inevitable forcible imposition of socialism on America. Yes,
        the Free State Project migration movement in such circumstances is
        extraordinarily important. In New Hampshire it will join (has already
        joined) with the indigenous freedom forces---which are vast in the Live
        Free or Die state---to fight and keep alive the original American cultural,
        economic, political, and philosophical values. This is one reason that
        Democrats and other socialists in New Hampshire are so terrified of the FSP
        movement. We stand for everything they abhor: Free enterprise capitalism,
        individual freedom, personal responsibility, low taxes, constitutionally
        limited government, individual rights, restricted state power, reduced
        bureaucracy, etc. Socialism abhors real individual freedom (as opposed to
        individual dependency) in every way. The responsible Freestaters---of whom
        there are far more than the kids making the headlines with their fun but
        disruptive and sometimes juvenile behavior---*all* uphold those original
        American values.

        Yes, the Free State Project movement is important. Extraordinarily so.

        Timothy Condon, Esq.
        12 Liberty Lane, Grafton, NH 03240
        Ofc.: 307 S. Fielding Ave., Suite #2
        Tampa, Florida 33606
        813-251-2626  Fax 813-200-3395
        Email: tim@...


        On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Skip Murphy <Skip@...> wrote:

        >
        >
        > Over the TEA Party?  9/12 Project?
        >
        > There is no doubt that both are complementary and each has helped each
        > other - but you believe that the FSP would be the more important right now?
        >
        > - Skip
        > GraniteGrok.com
        >
        >
        > On 2/16/2012 6:36 PM, Tim Condon wrote:
        >
        >
        >
        > That's all true, and that's why the Free State Project is the most
        > important movement in modern American history. As the rest of the country
        > collapses, there will be a majority of individualistic, self-reliant people
        > in NH to keep the torch alive...even while it's being extinguished
        > everywhere else.
        >
        >
        >
        > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Carolyn McKinney <
        > carolyn.mckinney@...> wrote:
        >
        >>
        >>
        >> It will be very difficult for any Republican to win. Why? Skip posted
        >> this graphic<http://granitegrok.com/blog/2012/02/gee-i-wonder-if-this-ties-into-the-current-brouhaha-over-free-contraception-abortions-vs-first-amendment-religious-freedom>,
        >> which says it all—"Democrats give me free shit." If Obama does win again,
        >> despite the economy being in the crapper, more families and children in
        >> poverty, the rapid loss of freedom, it will indicate to me that we may have
        >> already passed the point of no return. And that fact will be on Republican
        >> heads because for too many years Republicans were giving away free shit too
        >> rather than rolling it back and making people personally responsible.
        >>
        >>  On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Kevin McHugh wrote:
        >>
        >>
        >>   I'll vote for any Republican over Obama, but the idea
        >> that conservatives should blindly support Romney in the primary because
        >> he's "our best chance of beating Obama", is one of the biggest hoaxes ever
        >> perpetrated by the GOP country-club and its allies in the "news" media.
        >>
        >> And the latest Rasmussen poll provides even more evidence to back this
        >> up. It has Mitt losing to Obama by 10 points, and Santorum trailing
        >> Obama by only 4 points, which is almost within the polls margin of
        >> error. Not bad for a candidate with very little money and no support from
        >> the GOP establishment or the media (unlike Romney, of course).
        >> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/
        >>
        >> -Kevin
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >
        >
        >


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