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  • Tim Condon
    The FSP doesn t endorse any politician or any party, ever. However, it also does not prohibit discussion of such subjects on this list, or otherwise attempt to
    Message 1 of 68 , Oct 27, 2009
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      The FSP doesn't endorse any politician or any party, ever. However, it also
      does not prohibit discussion of such subjects on this list, or otherwise
      attempt to truncate people's right to speak openly and freely. With that
      said, do you still feel you may have been misled as to what we're all doing
      here? ---Tim Condon



      On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Jody Underwood <jodysun@...> wrote:

      > You know, it depends on what the 90% is. Not sure how Chris measured
      > it. I'm not sure exactly what a "libertarian-conservative" is, either.
      > is it a new name for the old Republican line? Jack Kimball called
      > himself a "Reagan Republican". Is that what you mean? But none of
      > these really capture "A Barry Goldwater/Ron Paul type", as was
      > previously stated about Bob. That's completely misleading.
      >
      > I realize people need to play the game to get into office, but I would
      > also like to know what this politician really thinks, and I don't think
      > we know. There's no question with Ron Paul, nor was there with Barry
      > Goldwater. It's one thing to vote for the lesser of two evils, and
      > another to endorse that person.
      >
      > So, if the FSP is endorsing a bunch of republicans, then I was mislead
      > as to what we're all doing here.
      >
      > -Jody
      >
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      > Tim Condon wrote:
      > > Is 90% pro-liberty enough? Not to many libertarians, who would rather be
      > > right than ever win anything. Giuda is a libertarian-conservative, which
      > is
      > > where we should all be ideologically. Or, as I like to say, "rational
      > > libertarian." ---Tim Condon
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      > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Chris Lawless <dreepa@...>
      > wrote:
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      > >> he was speaking at a 'gop like' event so I expect him to speak to gop
      > like
      > >> issues.
      > >>
      > >> I spoke with him at Porcfest.
      > >> He is probably 90% pro liberty. I did speak with him about the drug
      > war.
      > >> I said show me in the Constitution where drugs are prohibited. He did
      > say
      > >> that I had a good point.
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      > >> I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!
      > And
      > >> let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no
      > >> virtue!
      > >>
      > >> --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Jody Underwood <jodysun@...> wrote:
      > >>
      > >> From: Jody Underwood <jodysun@...>
      > >> Subject: Re: [FSP] Bob Giuda announces for U.S. House
      > >> To: freestateproject@yahoogroups.com
      > >> Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 6:30 AM
      > >>
      > >> Tim,
      > >>
      > >> I saw Bob campaign/speak at a 912 event in Claremont, and he didn't seem
      > >> to be anything other than a Republican. He said something to the effect
      > >> that all politicians pass unconstitutional laws, and he'll do the same.
      > >> If memory serves me, he's also not against the war on drugs. Neither of
      > >> those sound like Goldwater or Paul. How is he a supporter of liberty?
      > >>
      > >> -Jody
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> Tim Condon wrote:
      > >>> Everyone, below is the message that my friend Bob Giuda has just sent
      > >> out.
      > >>> Although it's possible---even probable---that other candidates will vie
      > >> in
      > >>> the GOP primary, it's already clear that the mass of liberty loving
      > >>> activists in New Hampshire are already lining up in support of his
      > >>> candidacy. I've known Bob since I first came into New Hampshire back in
      > >>> 2003, and he's clearly what I call "a common sense conservative." Which
      > >>> means that he's a liberty-oriented conservative. Which means that
      > >> rational
      > >>> libertarians and libertarian-conservatives should also rally to his
      > >>> assistance in his campaign. I certainly will help him any way I can,
      > and
      > >> I
      > >>> urge all of you to do the same. While he won't be able to clean up the
      > >>> disgusting mess in Washington, DC alone, he can certainly become a
      > leader
      > >> of
      > >>> a growing insurgency against the political class. A Barry Goldwater/Ron
      > >> Paul
      > >>> type, in other words. Spread the word! Join up and help him out!
      > >>>
      > >>> Timothy Condon
      > >>> 12 Liberty Lane, Grafton, NH 03240
      > >>> Ph.: 207-956-9041
      > >>> Ofc: 307 S. Fielding, #2, Tampa, FL 33606
      > >>> Ph.: 813-251-2626 FAX 813-200-3395
      > >>> Email tim@...
      > >>>
      > >>> Bob sent you a message.
      > >>> --------------------
      > >>> Subject: Moving Forward
      > >>>
      > >>> Dear Friends and Supporters:
      > >>>
      > >>> Last week I filed papers with the FEC as a candidate for New
      > Hampshire�s
      > >> 2nd
      > >>> Congressional District seat in 2010. I did so because I believe that
      > >> federal
      > >>> interference in every aspect of our lives is putting our country and
      > our
      > >>> future at risk. A massive federal debt, bank bailouts, government
      > control
      > >> of
      > >>> medical care, and a proposed energy scheme that will cost thousands of
      > >>> American jobs and add as much as $3,000 per year in energy costs to
      > every
      > >>> American household are just a few of the things that are fundamentally
      > >>> changing our nation into a socialist state.
      > >>>
      > >>> Running a campaign requires a significant financial commitment. As a
      > >> working
      > >>> American, I must rely on donations to fund the costs of a campaign that
      > >>> covers 2/3 of the state of New Hampshire. That is why I am writing to
      > ask
      > >>> each of you to help me by donating $25 to our campaign. You can use a
      > >> credit
      > >>> card and contribute using our website �
      > >>> http://www.facebook.com/l/9d7cd;www.bobgiuda.com � or you can mail a
      > >>> personal check to:
      > >>>
      > >>> Bob Giuda for Congress
      > >>> PO Box 311
      > >>> Mont Vernon, NH 03057
      > >>>
      > >>> I am very aware that we are living in difficult financial times, and I
      > am
      > >>> deeply grateful for your support. Your donations will help me continue
      > >>> bringing our vital message of Congressional ethics reform, smaller
      > >>> government, less spending and lower taxes to the people of the 2nd
      > >>> Congressional District.
      > >>>
      > >>> Thanks for your commitment to freedom.
      > >>>
      > >>> Bob Giuda
      > >>> --------------------
      > >>> Bob has shared a link with you. To view it or to reply to the message,
      > >>> follow this link:
      > >>>
      > >>
      > http://www.facebook.com/n/?inbox/readmessage.php&t=1269303490116&mid=14c4ec3G23828e3cG3a75029G0
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    • Tim Condon
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      Message 68 of 68 , Nov 13, 2009
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        I'll be there! ---Tim Condon




        On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Chris Lawless <dreepa@...> wrote:

        > come in March!
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        > Everyone on this list should come as well.
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        > The 4th annual Liberty Forum will be March 18 -21st.
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        > www.freestateproject.org/libertyforum
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        > The KeyNote speaker has been announced.
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        > I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And
        > let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no
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        > --- On Fri, 11/13/09, GaryT <garyonthenet@...> wrote:
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        > From: GaryT <garyonthenet@...>
        > Subject: Re: [FSP] Bob Giuda announces for U.S. House
        > To: freestateproject@yahoogroups.com
        > Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:11 PM
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        > I am seriously considering it soon.
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        > I have started looking at properties, in Manchester, Concord and Keene.
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        > A new life and a new direction !
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        > Gary T
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        > ----- Original Message -----
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        > From: Tim Condon
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        > To: freestateproject@ yahoogroups. com
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        > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:17 PM
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        > Subject: Re: [FSP] Bob Giuda announces for U.S. House
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        > Agreed, Phil. I have said all I want to say, except "Continue to support
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        > Free State Project, everyone, and move to New Hampshire as soon as you
        > can!
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        > As goes New Hampshire, ultimately so goes America." ---Tim Condon
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        > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM, wolzybk <phil@boncer. com> wrote:
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        > > I would appreciate it if this topic could be allowed to die out soon.
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        > > Everyone on the list is now aware of the candidate in question and can
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        > > decide whether to support him or not. This has now devolved into a
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        > > about who's libertarian enough for whom, which is unproductive and
        > divisive,
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        > > and not what this list is for.
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        > > I'm not going to moderate and squash the discussion right away, but
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        > > like to politely suggest that this horse is just about dead.
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        > > I might also suggest that the "Freedom in New Hampshire" yahoo group,
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        > > already existing, is a more suitable venue for this type of discussion
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