Re: [RLCNH] CORRECTION - Government-paid union goons and thugs
- The moniker "Free State" doesn't have anything to do with the Free State
Project. Rather, it is an accurate description of the state of New
Hampshire. If you wanted to call for Free State Project participants, you
would holler "Freestaters!" As it is, New Hampshire will more and more,
throughout the United States, come to be known as "the Free State." Not
because of the Free State Project, but because that's the nature of the
place where the state motto is "Live Free or Die," where government will be
small, taxes low, and personal responsibility paramount. ---Tim Condon
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Paul Mirski <pmirski@...> wrote:
> *I misswrote part of the original message:
> Here's the correction - - -
> Paul Mirski wrote:
> Bad idea to raise the "Free State" note.
> If you do you'll undercut the idea of grassroots and give voice and
> legitimacy to the idea that all the opposition is *organized by special
> interests and the far right fringe.*
> It would be an equally a bad idea to shout "Republican."
> When Communists scored points during the Cold War they never trumpeted
> their successes. Why draw attention.
> Silence secured more ground - and we got the 'Great Society," and what we
> have in Washington today because of it.
> On the other hand, it would be great thing to continually point out union
> goons and paid Democrat party advocates in the crowd - and quite frankly -
> to provoke them thuggery before cameras if at all possible - with plenty of
> witnesses and cell phone photography in the mix.
> Tim Condon wrote:
> With respect to a purple-shirted thug screaming in Denis Goddard's face in
> an attempt to intimidate him at the recent Portsmouth rally, and apparently
> spitting at a camera filming him, it seems to me that Freestaters and other
> pro-liberty activists in New Hampshire should have a similar cry when help
> is needed. Union goons and other publicly paid thugs WILL in the future
> attempt to intimidate us on the streets. Since they're usually hired thugs
> from outside New Hampshire, it's a good idea for all of us to come to the
> aid of anyone being attacked or harassed by such people. We could use "Hey
> Rube!" or go with something more specific to us, such as "Free State!" What
> say you all? ---Tim Condon
> Hey, Rube!
> >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> *"Hey, Rube!"* is circus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circus> slang<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carny> most
> commonly used in the United States<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States> with
> origins in the middle 19th century. It is a rallying call, or a cry for
> help, used by circus people involved in a fight. It can also be used in the
> sense of describing a fight between circus people and the general public
> (e.g. "the clown got a black eye in a hey, Rube!").<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey,_Rube%21#cite_note-carlyon-0>
> In the early days of circuses in America (c. 1800�1860), it was very common
> for the employees (and owners) of circuses to get into fights with the
> locals as they traveled from town to town.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey,_Rube%21#cite_note-carlyon-0> Circuses
> were places where country people could gather, blow off steam and voice
> political views. Circuses were rowdy, loud and often lewd affairs. Mark
> Twain <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain>'s classic description of a
> circus and other shows in *Adventures of Huckleberry Finn<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventures_of_Huckleberry_Finn>
> * provides illustration. It was a rare show that did not include at least
> some violence, and this often involved the members of the circus.
> When a circus worker was attacked or in trouble, he would yell "Hey, Rube!"
> and his fellow circus workers would rush to join the melee. Circus pioneer
> and legendary clown Dan Rice <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rice> called
> it "a terrible cry, [meaning] as no other expression in the language does,
> that a fierce deadly fight is on, that men who are far away from home
> [traveling circus workers] must band together in a struggle that means life
> or death to them."<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey,_Rube%21#cite_note-carlyon-0>
> According to authors David Carlyon and Ken Emerson, the origin of the
> expression can be traced to 1848 when a member of Dan Rice's troupe was
> attacked at a New Orleans dance house. That man yelled to his friend, named
> "Reuben", who rushed to his aid.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey,_Rube%21#cite_note-carlyon-0>.
> Another explanation is that the name "Rubens<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubens>"
> is a slang term for farmers (e.g., "Rustic Reubens"), usually shortened to "
> Rubes <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Rubes>".
> The OED <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OED>'s first entry for "Hey, Rube!"
> is from 1882 *Times* (Chicago) 3 Dec. Suppl. 12/4 "A canvasman watching a
> tent is just like a man watching his home. He'll fight in a minute if the
> outsider cuts the canvas, and if a crowd comes to quarrel he will yell, �Hey
> Rube!� That's the circus rallying cry, and look out for war when you hear
> The term is still known and used today in circuses, but often more
> romanticizing the "glory days" when circuses were rowdy affairs, and less
> describing actual fights or calling for aid.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey,_Rube%21#cite_note-carlyon-0>
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