RE: "deadline", moving independently
- A problem with some previous efforts of this kind was that a few people
would move, but not enough to make a significant difference, and those
people then wind up stranded in a place they might never have moved to,
without having had the desired effect. The FSP was structured to avoid
this by not asking people to move until and unless we had enough people
agreed to do so to be an effective faction for freedom.
The informal "deadline" came about because some signers were wondering
about how open-ended their commitment was to be. Some were reluctant
to sign agreeing to move when the 20,000 was reached, without any idea
of when that might be, and didn't want to wind up spending years
carefully not putting down roots anywhere else waiting for something
that might never happen. At that time, four years ago, it seemed
reasonable to say that we expected five years to be enough to either
make it happen, or make it obvious that it wasn't going to happen.
Instead, we've managed to achieve a middling result, not big enough to
be where we wanted to be, but not small enough to give up on.
Obviously, we never discouraged anyone who wanted to move sooner, or
later, or additionally, or whatever. But the point of the project was
to specifically gather enough liberty-minded people there to really
be an effective voice, so that was how the FSP was structured and
promoted. The 20,000 was always viewed as a minimum, and of course
anyone who wanted to help, during or after, was welcome.
Yes, you've got quite a good network and infrastructure of freedom
lovers in NH already, which was one of the reasons that NH won the
vote. It certainly was a major factor in my and my fiancee's votes
for the state, as well as in our decision to move after our wedding
next year regardless of how well the FSP is doing. If nothing ever
changes there, freedom-wise, it'll still be a big improvement on CA
where we are now. But for those coming from other reasonably free
states, that's a big effort for no advantage if they can't count on
enough others coming to build a real much more free state.
You haven't yet got a big enough network to win the whole state over
to real freedom. The FSP is intended to facilitate that as a real
possibility, and is intended to import enough real freedom lovers to
make that happen, which was calculated as being roughly 20,000. So
that's what we're trying to do.
I hope this has helped you to understand better what we're doing and
Jane <jane@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: In case anybody wants to correct their misleading slant
It seems kind of silly to have a deadline, I mean, if someone wants
to move here after that are you going to say no, don't come?
The goal should have been to get people to move here, period. There
should not have been a deadline involved where people had to sign a
committment. But hey, what do I know. I already moved here in 1989
because I was fed up with Massachusetts and have been struggling to
fight the influx of certain 'foreigners' who've ravaged Bedford.
On Nov 2, 2005, at 4:33 PM, Chris Lawless wrote:
> Many of the 6800 who signed up won't make the move
> until the FSP gets 20K.
Why is that? I really did not think that their moving depended on
whether others came or not since we already have quite a network
here...as witnessed by the nhlibertycalendar.org listings, the
regional Porcs, the NHLA, the CNHT, the LPHN and the RLCNH etc and
all the other groups you see on the calendar front page. :-)
- On Nov 3, 2005, at 5:58 PM, Phil Boncer wrote:
> A problem with some previous efforts of this kind was that a fewI don't feel stranded. I'm currently broadcasting this radio show to
> would move, but not enough to make a significant difference, and those
> people then wind up stranded in a place they might never have moved
> without having had the desired effect. The FSP was structured to
> this by not asking people to move until and unless we had enough
> agreed to do so to be an effective faction for freedom.
people all over the US and I feel supported by many people here in NH.
NH is way too tight a community to ever feel 'stranded'.