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  • Craig Johnson
    Thanks! The People s Cube is by a guy who saw the fall of the Soviet Union from the inside. It makes his satire on socialism so much more poignant. He is now
    Message 1 of 18 , Nov 1, 2009
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      Thanks! The People’s Cube is by a guy who saw the fall of the Soviet Union from the inside. It makes his satire on socialism so much more poignant.  He is now shaking his head and saying, “Why are we going this way? I left this socialist horseshit 20  years ago!”

       

      From: free_energy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:free_energy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of garys_2k
      Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:46 AM
      To: free_energy@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [free_energy] Re: Charlie Circuit

       

       

      OMG That's FUNNY! Thank you, I found a new must-read site -- up there with the best of them (Onion, etc).

      --- In free_energy@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Johnson" <cjohnson@...> wrote:

      >
      >
      > Well folks, the search is over. Congress has mandated free energy for all!
      >
      >
      > http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=4239
      >

    • catboat15@aol.com
      I would not think that congress, the president or any political power outlawed perpetual motion machines. Pretty well outlawed by some guys named Newton,
      Message 2 of 18 , Nov 2, 2009
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        I would not think that congress, the president or any political power "outlawed" perpetual motion machines.
         
        Pretty well "outlawed" by some guys named Newton, Einstein, Jule etc long before our government ever was founded. 
         
        Remember "TANSTAFL"  which is short hand for "There aint no such thing as a free lunch"
         
        The Old Curmudgeon
      • Charles Ford
        Although Newton is the only one that predates the Second Continental Congress (1794 when we yanks actually figured out that we needed a functioning central
        Message 3 of 18 , Nov 2, 2009
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          Although Newton is the only one that predates the Second Continental Congress (1794 when we yanks actually figured out that we needed a functioning central government) I second the rest of it.

          To Tanstafl, let's clink our beer bottles together and drink! 
          However, I must admit that this material is hilarious.
           Cheers!


          Charles Ford
          charlieford1@...



          From: "catboat15@..." <catboat15@...>
          To: free_energy@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 11:28:55 AM
          Subject: [free_energy] Re: Charlie Circuit

           

          I would not think that congress, the president or any political power "outlawed" perpetual motion machines.
           
          Pretty well "outlawed" by some guys named Newton, Einstein, Jule etc long before our government ever was founded. 
           
          Remember "TANSTAFL"  which is short hand for "There aint no such thing as a free lunch"
           
          The Old Curmudgeon

        • Kirk McLoren
          Patent office will not accept patent applications for perpetual motion machines Today s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments,and they wander
          Message 4 of 18 , Nov 2, 2009
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            Patent office will not accept patent applications for perpetual motion machines

            Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments,and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventuallybuild a structure which has no relation to reality.
            Nikola Tesla, Modern Mechanics and Inventions, July, 1934


            --- On Mon, 11/2/09, catboat15@... <catboat15@...> wrote:

            From: catboat15@... <catboat15@...>
            Subject: [free_energy] Re: Charlie Circuit
            To: free_energy@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 9:28 AM

             

            I would not think that congress, the president or any political power "outlawed" perpetual motion machines.
             
            Pretty well "outlawed" by some guys named Newton, Einstein, Jule etc long before our government ever was founded. 
             
            Remember "TANSTAFL"  which is short hand for "There aint no such thing as a free lunch"
             
            The Old Curmudgeon
          • George Wiseman
            Perpetual Motion is not outlawed, as far as I know. Applications that claim perpetual motion are simply not accepted as a policy of the US Patent office. I
            Message 5 of 18 , Nov 2, 2009
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              Perpetual Motion is not outlawed, as far as I know.
              Applications that claim perpetual motion are simply not accepted as a
              policy of the US Patent office.

              I disagree with that policy because the Patent Office is supposed to
              be a recording repository and should NOT have say as to what gets
              deposited. They claim that they don't want to bother with patents
              that obviously will not work.

              I'm an inventor and my research shows MOST patents that are submitted
              will NOT work as submitted.

              Who gave the US Patent office the right to choose?

              The market decides what works and what doesn't.

              I have much more to say on the subject but will simply end by saying
              that, for the technologies I invent, patenting is a VERY bad idea. I
              make my money by directly helping as many people as possible
              implement my innovations.

              http://eagle-research.com/nopatent/patfree.php

              May the blessings be
              George

              On 2-Nov-09, at 10:25 AM, Kirk McLoren wrote:

              >
              > Patent office will not accept patent applications for perpetual
              > motion machines
              >
              > Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments,and
              > they wander off through equation after equation, and
              > eventuallybuild a structure which has no relation to reality.Nikola
              > Tesla, Modern Mechanics and Inventions, July, 1934
              >
              > --- On Mon, 11/2/09, catboat15@... <catboat15@...> wrote:
              >
              > From: catboat15@... <catboat15@...>
              > Subject: [free_energy] Re: Charlie Circuit
              > To: free_energy@yahoogroups.com
              > Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 9:28 AM
              >
              >
              > I would not think that congress, the president or any political
              > power "outlawed" perpetual motion machines.
              >
              > Pretty well "outlawed" by some guys named Newton, Einstein, Jule
              > etc long before our government ever was founded.
              >
              > Remember "TANSTAFL" which is short hand for "There aint no such
              > thing as a free lunch"
              >
              > The Old Curmudgeon
              >
              >
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              May the blessings be.

              George Wiseman
              wiseman@...
            • garys_2k
              Actually, they ll be more than happy to accept a patent for a perpetual motion device IF a working model is supplied with the application. Not a bad deal,
              Message 6 of 18 , Nov 2, 2009
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                Actually, they'll be more than happy to accept a patent for a perpetual motion device IF a working model is supplied with the application. Not a bad deal, imho.

                --- In free_energy@yahoogroups.com, George Wiseman <wiseman@...> wrote:
                >
                > Perpetual Motion is not outlawed, as far as I know.
                > Applications that claim perpetual motion are simply not accepted as a
                > policy of the US Patent office.
                >
                > I disagree with that policy because the Patent Office is supposed to
                > be a recording repository and should NOT have say as to what gets
                > deposited. They claim that they don't want to bother with patents
                > that obviously will not work.
                >
                > I'm an inventor and my research shows MOST patents that are submitted
                > will NOT work as submitted.
                >
                > Who gave the US Patent office the right to choose?
                >
                > The market decides what works and what doesn't.
                >
                > I have much more to say on the subject but will simply end by saying
                > that, for the technologies I invent, patenting is a VERY bad idea. I
                > make my money by directly helping as many people as possible
                > implement my innovations.
                >
                > http://eagle-research.com/nopatent/patfree.php
                >
                > May the blessings be
                > George
                >
                > On 2-Nov-09, at 10:25 AM, Kirk McLoren wrote:
                >
                > >
                > > Patent office will not accept patent applications for perpetual
                > > motion machines
                > >
                > > Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments,and
                > > they wander off through equation after equation, and
                > > eventuallybuild a structure which has no relation to reality.Nikola
                > > Tesla, Modern Mechanics and Inventions, July, 1934
                > >
                > > --- On Mon, 11/2/09, catboat15@... <catboat15@...> wrote:
                > >
                > > From: catboat15@... <catboat15@...>
                > > Subject: [free_energy] Re: Charlie Circuit
                > > To: free_energy@yahoogroups.com
                > > Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 9:28 AM
                > >
                > >
                > > I would not think that congress, the president or any political
                > > power "outlawed" perpetual motion machines.
                > >
                > > Pretty well "outlawed" by some guys named Newton, Einstein, Jule
                > > etc long before our government ever was founded.
                > >
                > > Remember "TANSTAFL" which is short hand for "There aint no such
                > > thing as a free lunch"
                > >
                > > The Old Curmudgeon
                > >
                > >
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                > May the blessings be.
                >
                > George Wiseman
                > wiseman@...
                >
              • ranger116@webtv.net
                Of course they would outlaw perpetual motion / over unity machines if for no other reason than George Bush Sr. owns half the oil tankers in the World.
                Message 7 of 18 , Nov 3, 2009
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                  Of course they would outlaw perpetual motion / over unity machines if
                  for no other reason than George Bush Sr. owns half the oil tankers in
                  the World.
                • ranger116@webtv.net
                  The patent office will accept patents for over unity devices, But they demand a working model be presented unlike for any other patent they grant. But they do
                  Message 8 of 18 , Nov 3, 2009
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                    The patent office will accept patents for over unity devices, But they
                    demand a working model be presented unlike for any other patent they
                    grant.
                    But they do not want to see the working model they want your expert to
                    swear it works ? So it leaves it open for con men like Bearden and Tilly
                    to collect a lot of investors money.
                    Bearden went the do not mention over unity in the patent application
                    route to get his patent on the non working MEG.
                  • waynegage2000
                    The patent office will not accept applications for perpetual motion machines for good reason. They will accept patents for machines that are called magnet
                    Message 9 of 18 , Nov 4, 2009
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                      The patent office will not accept applications for perpetual motion machines for good reason. They will accept patents for machines that are called magnet motor machines or gravity wind machine or other names. They do not need to work.

                      --- In free_energy@yahoogroups.com, George Wiseman <wiseman@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Perpetual Motion is not outlawed, as far as I know.
                      > Applications that claim perpetual motion are simply not accepted as a
                      > policy of the US Patent office.
                      >
                      > I disagree with that policy because the Patent Office is supposed to
                      > be a recording repository and should NOT have say as to what gets
                      > deposited. They claim that they don't want to bother with patents
                      > that obviously will not work.
                      >
                      > I'm an inventor and my research shows MOST patents that are submitted
                      > will NOT work as submitted.
                      >
                      > Who gave the US Patent office the right to choose?
                      >
                      > The market decides what works and what doesn't.
                      >
                      > I have much more to say on the subject but will simply end by saying
                      > that, for the technologies I invent, patenting is a VERY bad idea. I
                      > make my money by directly helping as many people as possible
                      > implement my innovations.
                      >
                      > http://eagle-research.com/nopatent/patfree.php
                      >
                      > May the blessings be
                      > George
                      >
                      > On 2-Nov-09, at 10:25 AM, Kirk McLoren wrote:
                      >
                      > >
                      > > Patent office will not accept patent applications for perpetual
                      > > motion machines
                      > >
                      > > Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments,and
                      > > they wander off through equation after equation, and
                      > > eventuallybuild a structure which has no relation to reality.Nikola
                      > > Tesla, Modern Mechanics and Inventions, July, 1934
                      > >
                      > > --- On Mon, 11/2/09, catboat15@... <catboat15@...> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > From: catboat15@... <catboat15@...>
                      > > Subject: [free_energy] Re: Charlie Circuit
                      > > To: free_energy@yahoogroups.com
                      > > Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 9:28 AM
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > I would not think that congress, the president or any political
                      > > power "outlawed" perpetual motion machines.
                      > >
                      > > Pretty well "outlawed" by some guys named Newton, Einstein, Jule
                      > > etc long before our government ever was founded.
                      > >
                      > > Remember "TANSTAFL" which is short hand for "There aint no such
                      > > thing as a free lunch"
                      > >
                      > > The Old Curmudgeon
                      > >
                      > >
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                      >
                      > May the blessings be.
                      >
                      > George Wiseman
                      > wiseman@...
                      >
                    • waynegage2000
                      That is a ridiculous assertion that you cannot support. Your claim is very flawed. It does no one any good because it is difficult for the innocent to defend
                      Message 10 of 18 , Nov 4, 2009
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                        That is a ridiculous assertion that you cannot support. Your claim is very flawed. It does no one any good because it is difficult for the innocent to defend against these kinds of accusations.

                        --- In free_energy@yahoogroups.com, ranger116@... wrote:
                        >
                        > Of course they would outlaw perpetual motion / over unity machines if
                        > for no other reason than George Bush Sr. owns half the oil tankers in
                        > the World.
                        >
                      • waynegage2000
                        First of all Bearden is a con man and does not know physics. His MEG is a useless piece of crap that many people have bought into. He spouts gibberish about
                        Message 11 of 18 , Nov 4, 2009
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                          First of all Bearden is a con man and does not know physics. His MEG is a useless piece of crap that many people have bought into. He spouts gibberish about the funtion of his machine. An I have read stories about poeple who get patents on machines that they modify to not working to protect themselves.
                          This is nonsense. The purpose of the patent is protection.


                          --- In free_energy@yahoogroups.com, ranger116@... wrote:
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                          > The patent office will accept patents for over unity devices, But they
                          > demand a working model be presented unlike for any other patent they
                          > grant.
                          > But they do not want to see the working model they want your expert to
                          > swear it works ? So it leaves it open for con men like Bearden and Tilly
                          > to collect a lot of investors money.
                          > Bearden went the do not mention over unity in the patent application
                          > route to get his patent on the non working MEG.
                          >
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