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3890Fourth Way method for self evolution

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  • capstealth
    Sep 30

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg4P2blVtPE&t=13s


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPRo9BTgyOc


      FOURTH WAY METHOD FOR SELF EVOLUTION

      A definite indication of an 
      awakened state of consciousness 
      is when a man sees new connections 
      between the observed impressions 
      recorded in his psyche as a result 
      of separation from false bridges 
      between those same impressions 
      stored in centers in connection 
      with events of personality 
      formation during early life. 
      The kind of early life training 
      for the personality from such 
      sources as education from
      public schools, for example, 
      have nothing to do with the 
      actual centers themselves. 
      What is formed, instead, is a 
      formatory apparatus within the 
      thinking center. All impressions 
      from stimuli streaming in from 
      centers and parts of centers are 
      transmitted to the formatory
      apparatus and this is equally 
      true for all perceptions of 
      centers for they also manifest 
      through the formatory apparatus. 
      An example of this is how we 
      become trained from our early 
      life experiences in the education 
      system such as exists in American 
      public schools whereby if you are 
      taught that if someone is shaking 
      hands with you in a certain way, 
      then you must stand in a particular 
      corresponding and politically
      correct way. All of this is 
      mechanical, of course, in the
      sense of the fourth way idea of 
      "requirements". These formatory 
      rules learned early in school become 
      adopted into the formation of the 
      formatory apparatus and 
      continues throughout
      the duration of a man's life. 
      Any adult is the same as when 
      he or she was a child. It is true 
      that adults are like children and 
      children are like adults in that all 
      of them react. 

      Requirements?

      > You still have not answered

      > my question … is there a method

      > to your madness?

      > H.


      > What a shame.  Why does he 

      > think we want to read his

      > insipid ramblings?????
      > M. 

      > Or does your brain not function

      > when you are questioned?
      > H.


      Requirements, in terms of the

      fourth way, have to do with

      Imaginary "I" and, in terms

      of life of itself, Imaginary

      "I" really DOES NOT KNOW.

      The question then arises: do people

      who behave in this way really want to

      KNOW anything?, or just APPEAR like

      they KNOW? as well as APPEAR like

      the WANT TO KNOW? or are they 

      blinded by lies, cannot breathe, and 

      are nothing more than batteries

      for a perpetual motion machine

      repeating material along
      involutionary lines of

      cause and effect?


      What respect can there

      be toward a machine?


      and we see a lot of this kind

      of behavior between participants

      on these channels.


      Rules of engagement on these

      channels are usually given in

      the form of requirements which

      have nothing to do with the

      real world. Apparently this

      is how it appears and cannot be
      helped by anyone, not by Gurdjieff,

      not by anyone, but only I can help

      myself. Only then will God be able

      to help me because by helping myself

      I am able, only then, to help God, as

      only He would have it, and only then

      can Gurdjieff be of any help, and

      for which we are compelled to

      express gratitude.


      GURDJIEFF:

      " 'God is God, and not vindictive

      and evil like man. Certainly He
      will not punish you or take

      revenge upon you, as you would

      have done to the vandal who

      destroyed the goods it had

      taken you years to collect.

      " 'It goes without saying God

      forgives everything . . . this

      has even become a law in the

      world.

      " 'But His creatures . . . men in

      this case . . . should not abuse His
      all-gracious and everywhere-penetrating

      Goodness, it is their duty not only to

      watch over all that He has created but

      also to maintain it.


      CLEAN AND UNCLEAN


       " 'Yet here on Earth men have even

      divided beings of all other forms
      into "clean" and "unclean." Tell me,

      what guided them when they made this

      division? Why, for instance, is a

      sheep "clean" and a lion "unclean"?

      Are they not equally beings? This

      also was invented by men. But why

      this invention, why this distinction?

      Simply because the sheep is a weak

      being, and moreover stupid, and

      they can do just what they like

      with it.

      " 'But men call the lion "unclean"

      only because they dare not do what
      they like with it. The lion is

      cleverer and above all stronger

      than they are. Not only will the

      lion not allow itself to be

      destroyed, it will not even

      let people come near it. And

      if anyone should venture too

      close, this Mister Lion would

      give him such a crack on the

      noodle that our hero's life

      would fly away to regions

      concerning which the less

      said the better.

      " 'I repeat, a lion is "unclean"

      simply because men are afraid of it;
      it is a hundred times stronger than

      they are, a hundred times superior.

      A sheep is "clean" because it is

      much weaker than they and, as I

      said before, much more stupid.

      " 'Every being, according to its

      nature and the gradation of Reason
      attained by its ancestors and

      transmitted by heredity, occupies

      a definite place among beings of

      other forms."
      --Gurdjieff, ch 19,

      --Beelzebub's Tales


      Conscious voluntarization of 
      material stored as impressions 
      on rolls in centers by method of
      writing "by progression" is a means 
      for self-observation. The accumulation 
      of experiences of self-observation
      eventually provide the higher 
      quality of material to form new
      connections deeper behind the 
      surface of personality. This is
      especially accelerated with 
      efforts of inner separation and 
      there are ways to do this with 
      conscious labor and intentional 
      suffering. Writing by progression 
      as a product of conscious labor and
      intentional suffering is a method 
      which can be applied in the midst 
      of conditions and circumstances of 
      ordinary life of itself and I can see 
      everyone around me mechanically 
      expressing and carrying themselves 
      in terms of personality rolls. There 
      were periods when I found myself 
      passing through the hallways of the 
      "laughing academy" seeing everyone 
      around me as less than me. It was a 
      wrong attitude that needed to die in 
      me.

      The more insane that all of this 
      appears, the more it serves a
      purpose having to do with 
      experiences of awakening, 
      death and rebirth.

      Gurdjieff demonstrated his self-
      awareness in many ways. Gurdjieff 
      role played his vindictiveness by 
      way of such ceremonies and 
      activities having to do with 
      giving attention to, or toasting 
      to, the "idiot" in general. In this 
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